Quote from: þerxh Sant-Enogat on March 03, 2024, 05:26:15 AMI totally agree with the purpose of this change.
I admit I am a bit lost in the timeline, shall I understand that, supposing dissolution happens 20/M for instance :
- start of voting period is 15/M+1 (called "balloting day")
- election deadline is 1/M+2, votes to be expressed before 5 pm on that day
- certification deadline is 14/M+2

I think that's correct. Either way the only thing that changes is the 5 pm bit.

QuoteAnd why would we keep 7.30p m as the end of business day, and not 5 pm as above ?

Well, my thought was not to change it since the same reason doesn't really apply. Nobody stays up to watch the clark results reveal anyway.

But perhaps if it creates confusion to have the election and clark end at different times we should change that as well. I don't have a strong opinion on that either way.

I know I said I wouldn't do anything as Senator, but I have decided to do a thing anyway, which is to propose an OrgLaw amendment which sets the deadline for election night at a time which is much more reasonable for Cézembre (midnight instead of 2:30 am)

Cézembreans are very much encouraged to have a look and provide feedback. I am interested to know if there is support for this change within our province.

https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=3108.msg25629#new

I eagerly await the feedback of my fellow members of the Ziu.

9 to 5 Amendment

Whereas Cézembre is an integral part of the Kingdom of Talossa and citizens of Cézembre are full citizens with equal rights to those of the other provinces, and

Whereas election night is considered one of the main social events for Talossans, with activity and participation often spiking and the reveal of the election results often being combined with other cultural activities, and

Whereas the election deadline is set at 19:30 Talossan Standard Time, and

Whereas 19:30 TST is 02:30 am in Cézembre, and

Whereas many Cézembreans and citizens of other provinces living in Europe work 9 to 5, what a way to make a living, and

Whereas this schedule does not allow Cézembreans to stay up past 2:30 am on weekdays, and

Whereas bringing the deadline forward 2,5 hours would allow more citizens to experience this magical feast of democracy, and

Whereas this would set the election at 17:00 TST, which is the end of business hours and not at all unreasonable for those living in the GTA or elsewhere in the western hemisphere, and

Whereas El Lexhatx refers to some non-existent tradition of keeping the polls open until midnight, now

Therefore Article V, Section 2 of the Organic Law, which currently reads

QuoteAll elections to the Cosa are to be conducted during a period beginning from the fifteenth day of the calendar month following the dissolution of the prior Cosa until 11:59 p.m. on the fourteenth day of the subsequent month. All ballots must be cast by 7:30 p.m. on the first day of the subsequent month. The first day of this period is called "Balloting Day", the first day of the subsequent month is called the "Election Deadline", and the final day of the period is called the "Certification Deadline."

 is amended to read as follows:

QuoteAll elections to the Cosa are to be conducted during a period beginning from the fifteenth day of the calendar month following the dissolution of the prior Cosa until 11:59 p.m. on the fourteenth day of the subsequent month. All ballots must be cast by 5 p.m. on the first day of the subsequent month. The first day of this period is called "Balloting Day", the first day of the subsequent month is called the "Election Deadline", and the final day of the period is called the "Certification Deadline."

Furthermore, provided the amendment to the OrgLaw contained in this bill is a approved and ratified, Lex B.10., which currently reads

QuoteNotwithstanding the purely traditional practice of "keeping the polls open" till midnight of the last day of an election (or of a month, for Clark purposes), the Secretary of State is hereby instructed to keep a sort-of conventional "business day" where the deadline for any official business (ballots, Clarks, etc.) is set at 7:30 p.m. of the day in question.

shall be amended to read

QuoteThe Secretary of State is hereby instructed to keep a sort-of conventional "business day" where the deadline for Clarks is set at 7:30 p.m. of the day in question.

Uréu q'estadra så
Glüc da Dhi (Sen, Cézembre)

RZ6 - PER
RZ7 - PER
RZ8 - AUS
RZ9 - PER

Well that is deeply unfortunate. Braneu, if you still read this: you are a great addition to the Talossan community. I'm very sad to see you leave.

I'm assuming this is because of something politics related that happened partly or mostly behind the scenes and involves people caring way too much about partisan politics and personal grudges?

RZ2 Per
RZ3 Per
RZ4 Con*
RZ5 Per

* noting that: a) Vuode is already the province with the fewest citizens b) There is no compensation provided for the reduced catchment area c) There is no indication this proposal carries support in Vuode (the Vuodean senator voted against)

I'm fine with this proposal.

As for the option of giving seats to whoever asks, townhall style, I suppose that would work for our current participation rates, but my one concern would be that citizens who are not active are also not getting represented. Perhaps an inbetween variant would be that people can claim a seat for themselves but alternatively appoint someone to receive an extra seat on their behalf (up to a certain limit).

Well if we let it be conducted by the chancery we should probably follow chancery rules. Personally I have no objection to the write-in thing. It's preferable if voters select a declared candidate, but I believe voters should be trusted to make that decision (and candidates do get listed on the ballot).

I support this proposal.

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on December 03, 2023, 09:21:28 AMI would argue this proposed law violates the third covenant.

QuoteTalossans have the right to freely organize political parties and other organizations, subject to their own laws of membership, and this right may not be abridged except with regards to organizations which advocate the use of violence or intimidation to attain political or other ends, or which seek to restrain any person or group of people from the exercise of their rights as granted under these Covenants.

I would strongly disagree. We're not talking about the right to be a party officer. Anyone has that right. We are talking about requirements for secretary of state. This is a government function. It's is perfectly valid for the ziu to set restrictions on who can hold such a position. If this proposal were to pass anyone would still be free to become a party officer. They just could not also be sos. Super broad interpretations of convenants are dangerous, because it reduces the ability of the ziu and the people to hold the government accountable. The convenants should protect citizens from the state, not the other way round.

PER on RZ1

Province McProvinceface

Congratulations to the winning parties!

I hereby assign the MRPC seats to myself.

Congratulations on your election s;reu Sénéchal!

Congratulations Braneu!