Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on April 17, 2024, 04:53:53 PM

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 17, 2024, 01:23:43 PMThe other thing is a really good start, but I do think it would be really preferable to include the convocation thing as well. I'm ready to write up a version of it to hash out the details, presuming you're okay with the basic concept. I don't think it should take that long.

Just posted my own version with the Convocation provisions cut-and-pasted from Brenéir's/Ian P.'s proposal. Can you tell me - because I think you're in a position to know - will this get at least 3 TNC MCs in favour of it?

I should also note the Abdication bill is "post-dated", to allow both the Succession Amendment to pass and His Maj to actually nominate his successor, should he choose to do so. Does that sound good?

At a basic level, maybe? We do still need to fix some of the fine details to make it work. I notice that you seem to be trying to steer me away from writing any of the actual text of the bill. Would you prefer to do it yourself, and I can just tell you the problems with the text as it stands? Or would you prefer I write a modified draft of what you have proposed?

Mmh. I have no good reason for disliking the proposed new name, but on reflection, for some reason, I just do.

So, a contra from me.

I am more than happy to appoint Sir X. Pol Briga to the Electoral Commission.

-- John R

Quote from: xpb on April 17, 2024, 04:35:28 PM

Quote from: Barclamïu da Miéletz on April 11, 2024, 03:48:36 AM

Quote from: þerxh Sant-Enogat on April 11, 2024, 03:34:19 AM

Quote from: Barclamïu da Miéletz on April 11, 2024, 02:49:46 AM@þerxh Sant-Enogat do you accept my proposal? As soon as I can I will include the fanfare that @xpb made. Then the melody will be finished.

Azul @Barclamïu da Miéletz . The choice for an Anthem for Cézembre has to be decided by l'Etats, the Provincial Assembly of Cézembre. It is not a decision of the Sénéschal, as you wrote on TalossaWiki.

I didn't know, thanks for reminding me

You can put a proposal in the RAK section https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?board=31.0

Description https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=822.0

I still need to finish the melody. Also I have COMPLETELY forgotten about this...

RZ19 - Aus

VoC - Non

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 17, 2024, 01:23:43 PMThe other thing is a really good start, but I do think it would be really preferable to include the convocation thing as well. I'm ready to write up a version of it to hash out the details, presuming you're okay with the basic concept. I don't think it should take that long.

Just posted my own version with the Convocation provisions cut-and-pasted from Brenéir's/Ian P.'s proposal. Can you tell me - because I think you're in a position to know - will this get at least 3 TNC MCs in favour of it?

I should also note the Abdication bill is "post-dated", to allow both the Succession Amendment to pass and His Maj to actually nominate his successor, should he choose to do so. Does that sound good?

 

Quote from: Barclamïu da Miéletz on April 11, 2024, 03:48:36 AM

Quote from: þerxh Sant-Enogat on April 11, 2024, 03:34:19 AM

Quote from: Barclamïu da Miéletz on April 11, 2024, 02:49:46 AM@þerxh Sant-Enogat do you accept my proposal? As soon as I can I will include the fanfare that @xpb made. Then the melody will be finished.

Azul @Barclamïu da Miéletz . The choice for an Anthem for Cézembre has to be decided by l'Etats, the Provincial Assembly of Cézembre. It is not a decision of the Sénéschal, as you wrote on TalossaWiki.

I didn't know, thanks for reminding me

You can put a proposal in the RAK section https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?board=31.0

Description https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=822.0

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 11, 2024, 04:19:00 PMTherefore, I ask @King John  in consultation with The Seneschal, @þerxh Sant-Enogat, the Mençei @Ian Plätschisch, and Chief Judge @Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN appoint their chosen member.

I have sent my recommendation to our Majesty

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on April 17, 2024, 01:10:52 AM

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 16, 2024, 09:55:08 PMI have to admit that I don't really understand the point of this legislation? The legislature can amend the Orglaw and submit the amendment for ratification by the people, or can depose the king by a similarly high standard of passage for certain specified causes, but this appears to just be an ephemeral bill to depose the king?

If the king wishes to abdicate, he doesn't need this legislation. If he does not wish to abdicate, this probably would need to be phrased differently.

It's copy-pasted from the bill that ratified the abdication of Edward VIII of the UK. There is no law or Organic provision governing the manner and form of abdications. So I figured this manner/form would be as good as any other, and in the precedent of a respected constitutional monarchy, and wouldn't require "Organically decapitating" the incumbent.

Any comment on whether the other thing, the Succession Amendment, is good enough?

I would assume we would stick with our own tradition, where the sovereign affirms their intentions under a declaration like any other they would make above their signature. But really it's up to the king, so I guess it doesn't matter.

The other thing is a really good start, but I do think it would be really preferable to include the convocation thing as well. I'm ready to write up a version of it to hash out the details, presuming you're okay with the basic concept. I don't think it should take that long.

I assign this applicant to you then, TLF, with the request that you seek to stay within the customary tinctures if reasonably possible. In my personal opinion, exceptions should be made only when it cannot be avoided because of established history, precedent, important connection, or extremely clever idea.

-Dean