VOTING: The Ranked Choice Constitutional Referendum

Started by Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB, January 10, 2021, 10:36:30 AM

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Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on January 19, 2021, 02:48:47 PM
Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on January 19, 2021, 02:16:51 PM
With apologies, I don't speak Talossan fluently. Could you please restate this in English? Thank you.

As Ladintsch Naziunál, I believe it's my job to make translations when citizens use the national language.

Quote from: Iac Marscheir on January 18, 2021, 11:28:38 PM
C'e cün grült fiirtà q'éu votarhéu per opziun 1: 'n cäps electat d'estat. Q'ár democraçù estadra sublatada!

Pirmalaiset çoiçéu: opziun 1
Secund çoiçéu: opziun 4

It is with great pride that I vote for option 1: an elected head of state. May our democracy be elevated!

First choice: option 1
Second choice: option 4

Thank you. The vote has been recorded.
Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode
Justice Emeritus of the Uppermost Cort
Former Seneschal

Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode
Justice Emeritus of the Uppermost Cort
Former Seneschal

owenedwards

I vote as follows:

1: Option 3
2: Option 4
3: Option 2
Puisne Justice

Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode
Justice Emeritus of the Uppermost Cort
Former Seneschal

Placiej


Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode
Justice Emeritus of the Uppermost Cort
Former Seneschal

C. M. Siervicül

I vote as follows:

1: Option 3
2: Option 4
3: Option 2

Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode
Justice Emeritus of the Uppermost Cort
Former Seneschal

Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

Voting has now closed on the referendum. The results are as follows:




Option 1 - an elected head of state wins the referendum.



Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă,
Secretary of State
Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode
Justice Emeritus of the Uppermost Cort
Former Seneschal

Miestră Schivă, UrN

Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on January 25, 2021, 07:53:20 PM
Option 1 - an elected head of state wins the referendum.

¡Miéida sant! This I honestly did not expect.

My immediate reaction is that this result shows that our nation is profoundly polarized on the question of constitutional reform. That is, a compromise, such as a fully ceremonial monarchy, will satisfy hardly anyone. The recent experience of the United Kingdom shows that a close referendum on a fundamental issue might cause more problems than it solves, if the winning side takes it as an excuse for IN YOUR FACE ultimatums. I have no intention to plunge Talossa into a new National Schism.

Section 4 of the Act which set up this Referendum reads as follows:

QuoteIf an option involving a change in the Organic Law wins this referendum, the Government shall introduce an Organic Law amendment to that effect within the lifetime of the 55th Cosă.

The Government will certainly do this, but of course no such bill has a hope in hell of passing unless we take into account the views of the monarchist opposition. We shall all see where this leads.

PROTECT THE ORGLAW FROM POWER GRABS - NO POLITICISED KING! Vote THE FREE DEMOCRATS OF TALOSSA
¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"IS INACTIVITY BAD? I THINK NOT!" - Lord Hooligan

GV

Quote from: Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on January 10, 2021, 01:26:58 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on January 10, 2021, 01:19:39 PM
For those interested, the discussion re: the 50 word statements went like this:

ME: "Here's the Option 1 50 words. You should put them all on a page on talossa.com."
THE SOS: "I haven't got Option 2 and 3's 50 words."
ME: "FREAKIN' YIPES!"

... and it was all sorted out in less than a day. Amazing enough that me doing my best to make sure the Status Quo and Dual Monarchy options got their statement on the ballot is being spun by the Regent into something shameful and corrupt.

D:na Seneschal, the Government does not conduct elections.  It seems deeply problematic for the Government to work in private with the Chancery to coordinate such things.  I hope it didn't go any farther and I hope that it doesn't happen again, because it's deeply inappropriate.

I am not insinuating anything: I am saying outright that it is wrong for the Government to privately coordinate with the Chancery and help administer an election.  Txec might be your close friend, and it might be trivial to reach out on Facebook and ask about this, and then help him.  And it might seem innocent to you, but it's not.  Please don't do it again.

Had the government not intervened as it did, making very sure the most monarchist and conservative options were appropriately represented, I'm curious: what would have happened with the vote and the ballot?

GV

Where in talossa.ca is this result?  Unless this wiki data is the primary source?  No matter how the vote turned out, thank you Dr. Nordselva, for a job well-done on this, your first non-Clark public vote.

GV, RArchivist

Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on January 25, 2021, 07:53:20 PM
Voting has now closed on the referendum. The results are as follows:




Option 1 - an elected head of state wins the referendum.



Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă,
Secretary of State

Miestră Schivă, UrN


PROTECT THE ORGLAW FROM POWER GRABS - NO POLITICISED KING! Vote THE FREE DEMOCRATS OF TALOSSA
¡LADINTSCHIÇETZ-VOI - rogetz-mhe cacsa!
"IS INACTIVITY BAD? I THINK NOT!" - Lord Hooligan

Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

I merely uploaded the image of a spreadsheet I created to help me to the wiki. The actual data is on the database.
Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode
Justice Emeritus of the Uppermost Cort
Former Seneschal

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The tiresome legerdemain of the referendum was predictable.  A simple vote on "Do You Want A King" Per/Non would result in a King.

http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~unger/articles/irv.html