Ok.  I am back on my feet.  My apologies for the inconvenience.

I am in the process of assembling a jury now, and hope to have results by the end of next week.  That will be Spring Break for my institution and hope to have it stitched up by the time we're done.  I have tried a couple of times to attach the entries to this posting, but it doesn't seem to want to take.

RZ18- Per

Quote from: GV on January 26, 2021, 06:24:13 PM

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on January 10, 2021, 01:19:39 PM
For those interested, the discussion re: the 50 word statements went like this:

ME: "Here's the Option 1 50 words. You should put them all on a page on talossa.com."
THE SOS: "I haven't got Option 2 and 3's 50 words."
ME: "FREAKIN' YIPES!"

... and it was all sorted out in less than a day. Amazing enough that me doing my best to make sure the Status Quo and Dual Monarchy options got their statement on the ballot is being spun by the Regent into something shameful and corrupt.

The Regent is quite right on points of procedure.  My question is: why didn't the proponents of options 2 and 3 get their fifty-word statements to the SoS in time?  And why was it the leader for Option 1 the person who got the fifty-word statements for the opposing options onto the ballot?

GV

Because I am currently buried in work and have a life outside of Talossa.

Quote from: xpb on January 26, 2021, 08:35:58 AM
The tiresome legerdemain of the referendum was predictable.  A simple vote on "Do You Want A King" Per/Non would result in a King.

http://www1.cs.columbia.edu/~unger/articles/irv.html

Honestly, I'm not so sure that it would.  There are a lot of Peculiarists with a Republican stripe, and if they'd coalesced around an elected head of state, then the results could've been a larger margin for elected head of state.

Per on the single bill in this Clark.

From my point of view, the Seneschal mentioned that the 50 word statement for Diarchy had not been received.  So I shot it over so it could be included.  Easy peasy lemon-squeezy.

I'm sorry, but the Regent's slimy insinuations and general mieda are one of the major reasons I'd rather do just about anything than check Witt.  This is the same Regent, I may add, that went behind the Seneschal's back to coordinate activities with my own Ministry.  There was grace then when sorting things out, but evidently it all got used up.

I'm going to come down in favour of Zoom on this.

Absolutely!  Let's accept it all.

Or we could mimic the Co-Princes of Andorra.  Or the Captains Regent of San Marino.

You insist that the viable system would be the Roman Consuls but that's not true at all.  There's no reason that unilateral veto is needed.  You're working from false premises.

You are inded only given the option of "co-prince" on the survey.  But if that's your issue, I suggest you take that up with your own party.  It took a passel of negotiating just to get our option included at all.

But the greater point is that a Co-Regency (alternating or some other system) would solve a goodly number of issues in terms of a monarchial/republican argument.  It gives us advantages of both, as well as disadvantages (which is true of any system).  We keep the pomp.  We get peeriodic will of the people. The two have to work together.

Further, as opposed to a "First Citizen" system (monarch or elected), it does not vest the personhood of the nation in a single individual.  A monarchy invests the nation into the body of a single individual (where the furthest logical extent is "I am the state." from King Louis).  An elected individual still creates a single "excellency," even if for a limited time.  The use of a di-archy would at least tip the hat to Talossa as a collective enterprise, without going so far as a Council-based "Head of State" a la Switzerland.

Co Sovereignty is a solid option.  To use the former motto of the Republic (and current motto of the Zuavs) "Dare something worthy."

We have currently received no submissions.

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Estimats Talossans,

Would anybody be interested in holding a gift exchange in honor of upcoming Independence Day?  Just an exchange of some small something (No more than USD 25 or so) that you think might make the other person smile.  We might be cutting it close, but I think that holiday spirit can be extended!

If you're interested, just drop me an email at culture@talossa.com with your name, address, and some general interests by Friday, 12/18.  The Ministry can then facilitate the exchange of information.  Much festive!!

Sometimes I think that an interesting twist on the "Sword of Damocles" would be to make the individual themselves almost impossible to remove from the seat... but make the seat itself relatively easy to abolish.  It might focus the sitter's attention away from their personal ambition toward devotion to the institution itself.

In effect:  "If this King screws it up... we won't have any more of them and he/she will be responsible."

First of all... yes, Frankenpuppy!  Awesome.  I think there's a new mascot.  As for huffy, I can't say that I'm experiencing that particular emotion.

The point here is imagining beyond what we've already got and what's been already tried.  There was a Talossa with an elected head of state.  We know how that went.  For a number of reasons, it didn't.  And there's a sizeable contingent that wants to keep the trappings of monarchy in this Talossa.  I think we reject that at our peril.

Yet, at the same time, there is a lot to be said for a periodically elected head of state.  It's responsive to the popular will.  It doesn't enshrine the state in a single body/bloodline. 

Co-Princes will have to think about using their powers carefully, especially if the Cosa can just wait a month or so and work with the other instead.  They will need to be regularly consulting at least one other person.  It will force each diarch to communicate.

Yet also, at the same time, it wont kibosh the entire country if one of them gets tired of playing and decides to take their ball and go home.

Followup.  Aren't there even MORE unique and fun options?  Just about everywhere has/had a king/queen/emperor, etc.