Would someone be so kind as to tell me how to get my coat of arms to display here?
And, how do you type diacriticals and other special characters here? I've cut-n-pasted, but I'd gotten so used to typing things like — and é on the other forum, and I miss it. What's the secret?
-- John R
Your coat of arms can be uploaded as an image, you go to your profile, forum profile and it should be on the list of upload image.
I don't know how to do diacriticals on here, either -- I have mostly been pasting in from Docs.
Stöds inte Münchens élite och Rhôneviner återkommande? Un più.
In other words, this board supports UTF-8, as far as I can tell. You need to make sure your OS and keyboard can create special characters and diacritics. If they do, you just type them like I did above.
Yeah, thats how I type Talossan here as well: I created a custom keyboard layout for it.
How does one change the text above the avatar? Like if I wanted to change "Justice" to "Judge"?
Quote from: Viteu on May 11, 2021, 02:31:56 PM
How does one change the text above the avatar? Like if I wanted to change "Justice" to "Judge"?
That requires an admin (me) to do. I'll fix it for you.
Quote from: anglatzara on May 11, 2021, 10:14:36 AM
Stöds inte Münchens élite och Rhôneviner återkommande? Un più.
In other words, this board supports UTF-8, as far as I can tell. You need to make sure your OS and keyboard can create special characters and diacritics. If they do, you just type them like I did above.
I feel stupid, because I can't get this to work. The help articles for Windows that I found seem to indicate that you do CTRL+SHIFT+: then a letter to put a diaresis, for example, but if I try to do that with the letter A, it doesn't work.
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 12, 2021, 01:50:21 PM
I feel stupid, because I can't get this to work. The help articles for Windows that I found seem to indicate that you do CTRL+SHIFT+: then a letter to put a diaresis, for example, but if I try to do that with the letter A, it doesn't work.
Thats because that shortcut only works in Microsoft Word and Outlook. If you want to type diacritics independent of the program, you'll need to either memorise Unicode codepoints or install another keyboard layout, for example US-International.
Are the codepoints pretty easy to learn?
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 12, 2021, 02:14:26 PM
Are the codepoints pretty easy to learn?
Well, theyre seemingly arbitrary sequences of four numbers, and upper and lower cases get separate values. Personally, I find them hard to remember, but every brain works differently.
Well, let's see... How many diacritics are there to remember? Like six or eight or something like that? If I understand correctly, the cedilla is barely used, right?
Maybe I'll make up a little cheatsheet for myself. I use too many different computers for changing keyboard layouts, I think.
I wonder if it's possible to just add diacritic buttons over the post window. As far as I know about the forum software, it shouldn't be too hard. That might be another way to do it to make it more accessible for people.
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 12, 2021, 02:36:24 PM
Well, let's see... How many diacritics are there to remember? Like six or eight or something like that? If I understand correctly, the cedilla is barely used, right?
Maybe I'll make up a little cheatsheet for myself. I used too many different computers for changing keyboard layouts, I think.
If you mean for Talossan, then we can count them all. (On that note, no, Ç shows up quite often.)
Whats important is that its not the diacritics themselves that get codepoints in this case, but rather the letter with that diacritic together, theye precomposed. Which means:
Umlaut/Diaeresis: Ää Ëë Ïï Öö Üü
Acute accent: Áá Éé Íí Óó Úú
Grave accent: Àà Èè Ìì Òò Ùù
Ring accent: Åå
Breve accent: Ăă
Consonants: Þþ Ðð Çç
In total 40 separate codepoints (not counting obsolete diacritics like circumflexes) you'd need to memerise for Talossan. Installing a new keyboard layout would definitely be easier.
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on May 12, 2021, 02:42:16 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 12, 2021, 02:36:24 PM
Well, let's see... How many diacritics are there to remember? Like six or eight or something like that? If I understand correctly, the cedilla is barely used, right?
Maybe I'll make up a little cheatsheet for myself. I used too many different computers for changing keyboard layouts, I think.
If you mean for Talossan, then we can count them all. (On that note, no, Ç shows up quite often.)
Whats important is that its not the diacritics themselves that get codepoints in this case, but rather the letter with that diacritic together, theye precomposed. Which means:
Umlaut/Diaeresis: Ää Ëë Ïï Öö Üü
Acute accent: Áá Éé Íí Óó Úú
Grave accent: Àà Èè Ìì Òò Ùù
Ring accent: Åå
Breve accent: Ăă
Consonants: Þþ Ðð Çç
In total 40 separate codepoints (not counting obsolete diacritics like circumflexes) you'd need to memerise for Talossan. Installing a new keyboard layout would definitely be easier.
That's... a lot. So yeah, it looks like you're right.
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 12, 2021, 05:02:01 PM
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on May 12, 2021, 02:42:16 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 12, 2021, 02:36:24 PM
Well, let's see... How many diacritics are there to remember? Like six or eight or something like that? If I understand correctly, the cedilla is barely used, right?
Maybe I'll make up a little cheatsheet for myself. I used too many different computers for changing keyboard layouts, I think.
If you mean for Talossan, then we can count them all. (On that note, no, Ç shows up quite often.)
Whats important is that its not the diacritics themselves that get codepoints in this case, but rather the letter with that diacritic together, theye precomposed. Which means:
Umlaut/Diaeresis: Ää Ëë Ïï Öö Üü
Acute accent: Áá Éé Íí Óó Úú
Grave accent: Àà Èè Ìì Òò Ùù
Ring accent: Åå
Breve accent: Ăă
Consonants: Þþ Ðð Çç
In total 40 separate codepoints (not counting obsolete diacritics like circumflexes) you'd need to memerise for Talossan. Installing a new keyboard layout would definitely be easier.
That's... a lot. So yeah, it looks like you're right.
Here's a full list from my old bookmark folder for altcodes: https://fsymbols.com/keyboard/windows/alt-codes/
Don't know if anyone else has had this issue but Chrome has a weird bug that comes up for me from time to time when I attempt to use the unicode (e.g. alt+0252 ü)--a new window opens and the prior window refreshes. This can be frustrating if you're typing something, like, oh I don't know, Marcianüs, in a long post and suddenly it's gone. The other downside to the alt+unicode method is the limitation of not having a number pad on a laptop.
I use the alt+Unicode on my work computer for obvious reasons, but for my personal machines, I use an app called "HoldKey" https://www.holdkey.eu/, which enables Windows machines to have the same function Mac OS X has (and cell phone users) of holding down the letter and selecting the accent. It has a trial version, but it's only a few dollars and well worth it.
Hm. Thanks, man. This seems like it must be such a common problem for any board that uses a language with diacritics, but I guess people just either do without, make the necessary changes on their local machine, or memorize the codes. I did a quick search around to see if anyone has any fixes for Simple Machine Forums, but it doesn't seem like it.
The basic "US-international" keyboard on Windows (https://thegeekpage.com/how-to-add-us-international-keyboard-in-windows-10/), allows me to do all those characters with no problem, except for A-breve. The Linux-xfce US-international keyboard includes the A-breve. Luckily, A-breve isn't strictly necessary in modern Talossan.
Þhí§ ís Á þésþ.
Oh my. Thanks! I'll have to get used to doing it this way instead of doing it right in Google docs, but now maybe I can pick up speed a little bit.
It is fortunately really easy to do diacriticals on Mac :-)
You know, classical Latin didn't have diacriticals. Why couldn't Robert I have been enraptured by that?
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 12, 2021, 07:39:01 PM
You know, classical Latin didn't have diacriticals. Why couldn't Robert I have been enraptured by that?
1) The ancient Romans used
apices (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apex_(diacritic)) to mark long vowels, but those are hard to spot because they are very thin strokes compared to the letters.
2) The oldest forms of Talossan has no diacritics at all. It's pretty funny actually; Talossan went from zero diacritics to way too many of them to a lot of them to reasonable-ish amounts within 40 years.
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on May 12, 2021, 07:44:06 PM
2) The oldest forms of Talossan has no diacritics at all. It's pretty funny actually; Talossan went from zero diacritics to way too many of them to a lot of them to reasonable-ish amounts within 40 years.
I hereby declare that we must return to the truest and purest Talossan.
Because I'm in an oddly good mood:
ithoughtclassicallatinalsodidnthaveaspacebetweenwordsoranyothergrammaticalmarkersbuticouldbewrongbutwhoknowsthenagainiamahorribleproofreaderformyownworksoperhapsthatwouldcoverupmytyposyesokayimsoldonclassicallatin
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 12, 2021, 08:02:38 PM
I hereby declare that we must return to the truest and purest Talossan.
Oh, trust me,
vosotreu neu wanteu c'.
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on May 12, 2021, 08:34:03 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 12, 2021, 08:02:38 PM
I hereby declare that we must return to the truest and purest Talossan.
Oh, trust me, vosotreu neu wanteu c'.
No, as V says, we need to be even purer.
Vosotreuneuwanteuc'.
Quote from: Viteu on May 12, 2021, 08:15:08 PM
Because I'm in an oddly good mood:
ithoughtclassicallatinalsodidnthaveaspacebetweenwordsoranyothergrammaticalmarkersbuticouldbewrongbutwhoknowsthenagainiamahorribleproofreaderformyownworksoperhapsthatwouldcoverupmytyposyesokayimsoldonclassicallatin
ACTUALLYTHEYDIDNTHAVELOWERCASELETTERSSOITLOOKEDMORELIKETHIS
PEOPLEWEREAMAZEDBYJULIUSCAESARBECAUSEHECOULDREADWRITINGLIKETHISATASINGLEGLANCE
So, one of the things I did a long while back was take the Microsoft Keyboard Layout Creator and whip up a whole variety of keyboards for Windows (http://keyboards.jargon-file.org/).
The particularly relevant ones for this discussion would be the "Other OS US Keyboard Layouts" which cover the Macintosh, Amiga, NeXT, and VT320/Unix compose key-style methods of doing accented characters, several variants on the US-International if you don't get along with the standard Windows US International or want the additions the Linux version has, and a "United States (English and Talossan)" layout that uses combining diacriticals instead of precomposed diacritics (which is to say, instead of supporting typing the precomposed character "á", you type an a and then the combining acute, which your computer backs up to display as "á").
(Using the combining diacritical characters made it possible to support every Talossan orthography ever with much less work on my part than assigning a combo to every precomposed glyph.)
I have looked but is there a way to change the display time to an individual's time zone (i.e. mine should be eastern)? I cannot find the setting anywhere.
Quote from: Viteu on May 17, 2021, 11:33:44 AM
I have looked but is there a way to change the display time to an individual's time zone (i.e. mine should be eastern)? I cannot find the setting anywhere.
Profile > Modify Profile > Look and Layout > Time Offset.
Theres no way of setting a timezone as far as I know, instead you have to add the time offset relative to GTA Time. Maybe clicking on auto-detect will help.
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on May 17, 2021, 11:46:56 AM
Quote from: Viteu on May 17, 2021, 11:33:44 AM
I have looked but is there a way to change the display time to an individual's time zone (i.e. mine should be eastern)? I cannot find the setting anywhere.
Profile > Modify Profile > Look and Layout > Time Offset.
Theres no way of setting a timezone as far as I know, instead you have to add the time offset relative to GTA Time. Maybe clicking on auto-detect will help.
Thank you! Not the most intuitive but it fixed it.