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Show posts MenuQuote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 15, 2021, 06:15:02 PMQuote from: Françal I. Lux on May 15, 2021, 04:42:25 PM
If it were up to me, I'd have this anachronistic, outdated institution scraped for a fully functional unitary Republic. The fact that I am willing to embrace this compromise and stomach the idea of having to call another human being "king" and "your highness" for the sake of contentious peace should count for something.
See, here's the thing: as far as I can tell, neither you nor any other Republican actually feels bound by this. Are you saying that if your party leader Clarks a bill which would rename the king to "chief executive" or "noble leader" or "president," that you would vote "contra" on her bill? Or that you would vote "contra" on a bill which altered the king's purview over appointments?
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 03, 2021, 08:49:53 PMQuote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on May 03, 2021, 08:43:51 PMI'll ignore the weird taunting with names, since I understand that you're having a hard time keeping your composure after I dared to say that someone "spilled the beans."
I should also note that, if the Baron of Beef were sincere, he would offer a simple compromise: "we will support 55RZ21 in exchange for an entrenchment of the current honours system". I'd go with that.
But I will say that I am extremely grateful for your support of my point, and I will focus on that. Notice how she is admitting the central point? Nothing else is included in this "compromise."
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 30, 2021, 06:32:06 AM
Your incoming party leader has posted 59 times, for example. I think you may have misidentified the problem.
Quote from: GV on April 22, 2021, 11:08:51 PMQuote from: Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu, O.SPM on April 21, 2021, 05:11:35 PM
Azul & Good Afternoon Friends,
I wanted to take a moment, considering the sudden of the Crown, to open a discussion that I feel His Majesty should be involved in... not just a Regent. I believe the recent actions of the King in the awarding a title of Peerage for the first time in nearly a decade for essentially babysitting the Kingdom for six months and additionally sidestepping the Government's recommendation for an Order of Knighthood, that the time has come for a complete overhaul of the system of Peerages and Knighthoods of the Kingdom.
Does that mean that I think they should go away... no, not even close. But I do believe that as we move forward with the Historic Compromise, we must pause and re-evaluate how our nation's highest Honours are divvied up. Peerages aren't something to be handed out for simple tasks... like warming a seat while the King is away.... again. Peerages are, by definition, not just the award of title but of land. While I applaud the efforts of the former Regent, awarding him a land grant is incredibly inappropriate for the service rendered. At best, adding the Grade of Knight Commander to the Order of the Nation (L'Urderi per la Naziun) for Sir Alexandreu... not a Peerage title.
I propose that, moving forward, Peerages and Knighthoods may originate from either the Crown or the Government... but, specifically in the case of Peerages, must be approved by both. Knighthoods, depending on Grade, may too originate from either... with the Government generally taking lead on approvals of Member, Officer, Commander/Knight and the Crown on Knight Commander & Knight Grand Cross.
Generally, I feel if we are going to have Peerages & Knightly Orders... we should do so in the manner that literally all other recognized nations do theirs.
Respectfully,
Gen. Txoteu Davinescu, O.SPM
This entire discussion, while important, is a distraction from the Historic Compromise. I agree with all who echo this sentiment.
Quote from: Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on April 21, 2021, 08:06:31 PM
I'm not upset... Far from it! I think it's important to set out exactly what you guys see as the terms of this "compromise." There had been a lot of high talk about ending the arguments over the role of the monarchy, finding a compromise for "generations of Talossans," and so on. But it turns out that it really just means that you get what you want now, and you'll come back for more very soon. That's fine, I'm just glad that the cards are on the table.
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on April 21, 2021, 05:35:33 PM
If you think this is part of the Historic Compromise, you are mistaken.
"The line must be drawn here! This far, no further!"