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Title: [CRL] Technical question re: timing
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 11, 2022, 05:08:39 PM
Okay colleagues, give me a heads up on this: I've posted the substantive text of a bill here (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1677.msg13882#msg13882), but not yet the "fluff", preamable, "whereases" etc.

Does the 10 day countdown before I can bring it in here start from Aug 5, when I posted the "meat" of the bill, or doesn't it count before I put the "fluffy stuff" on? My reading of El Lexh H.6.4. suggests that the "legislative proposal" needs to spend 10 days in the Hopper, which I think means the essential text of the proposed law or amendment, which suggests the more permissive wording.
Title: Re: Technical question re: timing
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on August 11, 2022, 05:37:40 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 11, 2022, 05:08:39 PM
Okay colleagues, give me a heads up on this: I've posted the substantive text of a bill here (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1677.msg13882#msg13882), but not yet the "fluff", preamable, "whereases" etc.

Does the 10 day countdown before I can bring it in here start from Aug 5, when I posted the "meat" of the bill, or doesn't it count before I put the "fluffy stuff" on? My reading of El Lexh H.6.4. suggests that the "legislative proposal" needs to spend 10 days in the Hopper, which I think means the essential text of the proposed law or amendment, which suggests the more permissive wording.
I agree with your interpretation.
Title: Re: Technical question re: timing
Post by: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on August 12, 2022, 07:43:48 AM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on August 11, 2022, 05:37:40 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 11, 2022, 05:08:39 PM
Okay colleagues, give me a heads up on this: I've posted the substantive text of a bill here (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1677.msg13882#msg13882), but not yet the "fluff", preamable, "whereases" etc.

Does the 10 day countdown before I can bring it in here start from Aug 5, when I posted the "meat" of the bill, or doesn't it count before I put the "fluffy stuff" on? My reading of El Lexh H.6.4. suggests that the "legislative proposal" needs to spend 10 days in the Hopper, which I think means the essential text of the proposed law or amendment, which suggests the more permissive wording.
I agree with your interpretation.
I, also am in agreement on this.  The "Whereas" and whatnot is largely throat clearing. 

Though, and this would be a question for the Bar and CPI, does that material factor into legal reasoning?  Because if so, one could argue that it is slightly more "substantive"