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Xheneral/General => Wittenberg => Topic started by: Carlüs Éovart Vilaçafat on July 03, 2023, 03:50:58 PM

Title: La C´hronicǎ Gün XLIV / June 2023
Post by: Carlüs Éovart Vilaçafat on July 03, 2023, 03:50:58 PM
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Title: Re: La C´hronicǎ Gün XLIV / June 2023
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on July 04, 2023, 09:52:23 AM
I'm sorry, but RZ21 was not passed into law. It cannot take effect until a second passing of the Ziu in the next Cosa.
Title: Re: La C´hronicǎ Gün XLIV / June 2023
Post by: Carlüs Éovart Vilaçafat on July 05, 2023, 08:18:07 AM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on July 04, 2023, 09:52:23 AMI'm sorry, but RZ21 was not passed into law. It cannot take effect until a second passing of the Ziu in the next Cosa.

In the database for Clark 4, RZ21 is in "Statute" status like the other 2. That's what I was basing it off of. Is the status of RZ21 incorrect or does it not mean what I think it means?
Title: Re: La C´hronicǎ Gün XLIV / June 2023
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on July 05, 2023, 02:06:33 PM
From my understanding, this particular bill, as as it deals with the CpI, it has different paying requirements and has to pass two consecutive Zius.
Title: Re: La C´hronicǎ Gün XLIV / June 2023
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on July 05, 2023, 04:51:37 PM
I quote from Organic Law VIII.3:

QuoteThe Ziu may enlarge the number of seats designated Puisne Judge to no more than eight, and may decrease the number of seats designated Puisne Judge to no less than two, provided that, in addition to the requirements for other legislation, two-thirds of the Cosa and a majority of the Senate support modification in two consecutive Cosas.

The Organic Law says we have to pass it again with the same majority in the next Cosa for it to take effect. It's a pretty unique provision in our constitutional law, but it's there. The aim is to prevent Cort packing.
Title: Re: La C´hronicǎ Gün XLIV / June 2023
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on July 05, 2023, 04:55:03 PM
Speaking of which, Mr SoS, RZ23 is incorrectly listed on the Database. It is an OrgLaw Amendment, not an ordinary law.
Title: Re: La C´hronicǎ Gün XLIV / June 2023
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on July 05, 2023, 06:25:26 PM
Yes. If it was listed as an amendment it would trigger a referendum. Since no referendum is required, it is listed in the way it currently is. The Scribe will need to make that note in the Wiki.

This is a pretty rare type of law and the database itself isn't set up for it.
Title: Re: La C´hronicǎ Gün XLIV / June 2023
Post by: Carlüs Éovart Vilaçafat on July 06, 2023, 12:59:28 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on July 05, 2023, 04:51:37 PMI quote from Organic Law VIII.3:

QuoteThe Ziu may enlarge the number of seats designated Puisne Judge to no more than eight, and may decrease the number of seats designated Puisne Judge to no less than two, provided that, in addition to the requirements for other legislation, two-thirds of the Cosa and a majority of the Senate support modification in two consecutive Cosas.

The Organic Law says we have to pass it again with the same majority in the next Cosa for it to take effect. It's a pretty unique provision in our constitutional law, but it's there. The aim is to prevent Cort packing.

Thank you for the clarification and I apologize for my own ignorance. I'll update the original post.
Title: Re: La C´hronicǎ Gün XLIV / June 2023
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on July 06, 2023, 01:12:17 PM
Sorry if you felt blamed or something. I didn't even understand the bill at first either. I just wanted to make sure this bill isn't entered as law yet.

Thanks!
Title: Re: La C´hronicǎ Gün XLIV / June 2023
Post by: Carlüs Éovart Vilaçafat on July 06, 2023, 01:55:52 PM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on July 06, 2023, 01:12:17 PMSorry if you felt blamed or something. I didn't even understand the bill at first either. I just wanted to make sure this bill isn't entered as law yet.

Thanks!

No worries at all! I'm glad to learn one of the quirks of our legal system :-)
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