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Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on Yesterday at 07:38:36 PMThat provision is criminally underutilized. Would be a lot of fun to see newer citizens taking advantage of it in the future!

For sure -- we've had a couple people do it, but it probably needs promotion again.  Maybe we need a quickstart guide for them added to the What's Going On page?

May also be worth the MinImm -- whether the incumbent or their successor -- making a note of alerting them to its existence once they've been naturalized.

That provision is criminally underutilized. Would be a lot of fun to see newer citizens taking advantage of it in the future!

Congrats Chilsă, and (officially this time) welcome!

Lex.F.30 states in full:

QuoteThe official system of weights and measures within the Kingdom of Talossa is the Metric System.

Non-Maricopan here, pardon the intrusion:

Are they set to private wherever you have them? You could always try attaching them as well.

Quote from: codename_chels on May 06, 2024, 12:04:03 AMSorry, I need to consider my word diction more and I understand more clearly now. I was thinking, even the ones in the Ziu would need worker protections. What about ensuring that there's no workplace bullying, etc? But, I'm also guessing that everything written in the forum and in the nation is incredibly civil?

At a bare minimum, we do have what we call "Wittiquette", which like any set of online forum rules governs how we try to interact with each other here.

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on April 23, 2024, 07:42:21 PMWith four Senators casting a vote, this bill passes the Senate by a vote of 3-1.

As the bill has passed both houses of the Chancellery, it now goes to the King or Vicere for approval or veto. If neither takes any action on the bill by Calondă Mai, it will become law and the Maestro shall begin preparations for the referendum.

Calondă Mai having come, the Maestro shall proceed in accordance with the law. (I'm happy to help on this if needed, though I'm not sure I am -- or should be -- privy to the list of email addresses so the actual sending I leave to you.)

Quote from: Zilect Uómbat Firă on April 30, 2024, 04:59:46 PMMaybe there should be a redistricting commission created to look into how to best redraw the catchment areas

I'm not opposed to this idea in principle, but I think it's best we also don't overcomplicate the process or add too much red tape to it.

Quote from: Barclamïu da Miéletz on April 29, 2024, 01:11:35 PMI would like to start some sort of Talossan DMV thing (so you can get Talossan licence plates as soon as I make them physical!) I think it would probably be categorised under TalossaWare.
Might sound silly.

Büreu dal Flasnarità Auteumotïu

"Bureau of Automotive Goofing-About"  Tafi's gonna slaughter this translation I know it

For reference I use "Goofing-About" as a positive, it's the Talossan way.

Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on April 28, 2024, 05:00:07 PMOk, but why?

I understand catchment areas need to be balanced on a global scale. I don't understand why they would need to be balanced for any one specific country, as long as there is still balance overall. If anything I think the differing catchment areas is part of what makes provinces have their own unique identity. Giving all provinces an equal share of us catchment area would just make provinces more the same.

In the case of Cézembre, it being the only European province is a big part of our history. It makes sense to combine that with a relatively large European catchment area even if that means not having much catchment area elsewhere.

At most, there would appear to be three provinces that have "their own unique identity":

• Benito has the Cjovani, though obviously not all Benitians are Cjovani (I can't claim to be, for example).
• Fiova has the reviensadeirs.
• Cézembre is, as you say, "the European province".

Of these, only Cézembre's identity would appear to be based on geography. So if it makes sense to you to remove Cézembre from the US-specific catchment map, we can look at doing so. I've attached a sample of what that could look like below. (In the tables to compare different options, it's "Realignment D".)

To the more general point of "why try to balance catchment areas in general", as already covered above, catchment areas generally need refreshing from time to time to rebalance things and try to get new blood in to provinces that need it.

Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on April 27, 2024, 06:55:48 PMI suppose my main thought is why do we need provinces to have an equal number of states as catchment area? Catchment areas don't have an equal number of Brazilian provinces or Swiss cantons, so why do they need an equal share of the US?

Well, given that the US is already subdivided amongst provinces -- and given the apparently large segment of the population which has naturalized from the US -- it would be odd to suddenly put the entirety of that country into one province's catchment, no? "Everyone from the US immigrates to Vuode" would be a policy that would throw things out of whack significantly more quickly than "everyone from Slovakia immigrates to Cézembre". An equal number of states was simply the initial goal; if you'd rather it be purely population-based that's fine too.

QuoteFor example, Cézembre, which is famously Talossa's european province, has a lot of catchment area in Europe. I don't think we really need additional catchment area in America. On the other hand, Vuode is already the province with the fewest citizens. If we give away some of the most populous states in its catchment area to another province which also has a lot of catchment area elsewhere (Benito) we might as well disband it now.

The intent was to also rebalance catchment areas elsewhere, which would likely result (should result) in VD's catchment area gaining nations (and thus potential immigrants). This is just step one of that process.

Quote from: Zilect Uómbat Firă on April 26, 2024, 02:48:19 PMWhat would the population distribution be if we used the US Census regions? (note: I left Wisconsin as-is)

As it turns out, not quite so even.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on April 25, 2024, 02:22:16 AMMy biggest argument for an unicameral Cosă is that a bicameral system requires too many people to sit in it; too many people who would rather not be politicians are pressed into service by their parties.

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 24, 2024, 09:11:15 PMI definitely support a unicameral Ziu. As an American, I've never been persuaded by the "cooling saucer" idea of upper legislative bodies. Charles Sumner and all...

Both valid reasons! I tend to lean towards the latter myself; while I'm a big fan of federalism, (1) I tend to prefer senates that are representative of the federal subunits (think how the US Senate used to be elected by state legislatures, or how the Bundesrat currently is), and (2) I think Talossa is simply too small to justify bicameralism.

However, to avoid derailing the thread too much -- what are people's thoughts on the maps presented?

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on April 24, 2024, 05:51:41 PM

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on April 24, 2024, 05:49:33 PMI think S:reu Puntmasleu mentioned implementing -- or I guess re-implementing! -- a system that allowed people to change their provincial assignments once every so often.

No, no, NO. That just opens the door to gerrymandering Senäts seats with such a low population. The only stable form of provincial assignment is geographic, given that we need periodic shake-ups of the map to balance immigration flows.

I prefer geographic myself, but if the "cooldown" period is sufficiently long -- or if there is no Senäts to worry about in the first place -- I can foresee an acceptable solution.

(None of this accounts for the facts that we need fewer provinces anyway)

I think S:reu Puntmasleu mentioned implementing -- or I guess re-implementing! -- a system that allowed people to change their provincial assignments once every so often. Especially coupled with a shakeup of catchment areas (and I would recommend we look at all of them, not just the US-state-level areas), it could lead to a better variety within the various provinces.