In order for the definitions you proposed earlier to actually apply, they must be written into the bill.

Quote from: mximo on January 07, 2024, 06:46:17 PMSo a political party exists when a citizen claims to be the leader of a party. For the definition of leadership, I am suggested to define it by the following officers: leader, deputy leader, secretary, treasurer or any other executive functions according to the party bylaw.


Mximo

I could probably spend a few minutes to assist if needed.

Quote from: mximo on January 11, 2024, 08:09:59 PMSorry but do I need to do something else here?

Mximo

Are you planning to revise the bill to incorporate the definitions you proposed

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on January 07, 2024, 09:24:47 PM

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on January 07, 2024, 09:13:22 PMI locked them. I also typically leave them stickier until the next election.

So rather than tell me that you typically leave them stickied until the next election you ignored my request and then locked the threads? Why, Txec?

The better question is why are you so offended (or more likely, why are you pretending to be so offended) about this obviously trivial and mundane issue.

I just found that B.13.2.2 already contains the sentence:

"13.2.2. No person shall be eligible to serve on the Commission who is an officer of any registered or unregistered political party"

So perhaps these definitions should be used again in this bill for consistency.

I'm a little concerned that the portion about party offices is too vague. For example, what counts as a "leadership position"? One could envisage many positions with party responsibilities that may or may not be considered "leadership".

Also, is a "political party" defined as an entity that registered in the previous election, an entity that has Cosa seats, or with some other definition?

Only the proposer (i.e., lead sponsor) of a bill may move it to the CRL (Lex.H.4)

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I wasn't arguing one way or the other about whether this bill is inorganic. I was making the broader point that if someone believes a bill to be inorganic, they should not vote for it.

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on December 03, 2023, 10:44:03 AMSounds like something for the corts to decide. Should this be passed feel free to bring a lawsuit and let the judiciary settle it.

This is really not how lawmaking is supposed to work. The citizenship oath to uphold the Organic Law applies to everyone.

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on December 03, 2023, 10:56:51 AM

Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on December 03, 2023, 07:06:45 AM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on December 02, 2023, 11:43:46 PMJust a note to say the revision brings the restrictions into line with those for permanent secretaries.

Permanent secretaries can be members of the Ziu.

Just a helpful hint here...considering one element of the TNC-FreeDems negotiations... I'm referring to the cabinet portfolio 😀

I'm not sure what you mean.

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on December 02, 2023, 11:43:46 PMJust a note to say the revision brings the restrictions into line with those for permanent secretaries.

Permanent secretaries can be members of the Ziu.

Senators,

Please cast your votes here.

Approved

A few of the other items are still around but the contact person has changed, but that can be fixed later.

Everything in the above post is pretty well dead or close to it.