Well, if polite entreaties don't work; and if the tone of the TNC to the Government parties between the election and now has been one of sustained angry contempt; one must assume that the time for politeness is over.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 24, 2022, 07:10:10 PM
Much of the problem with bad legislation is caused by (among other things) groupthink and the deferral of decisionmaking away from the actual legislative chamber

That sounds intriguing, please expand on your thoughts

I'm sorry to hear you don't feel that the job of legislative proofreading is an important one. I thought I remembered you being the guy who got annoyed at how much badly written law was being pushed through because no-one bothered to read it. I hope the Mençéi intends to take this Committee more seriously.

For future reference, I'd like a consensus from the other members on the broader question that arose:

QuoteWe should lay some ground rules as to what "the CRL giving its recommendation" under El Lex H.6.6. Does this mean we have to have a 2/3 majority on an official report back? Or something looser, i.e. all 3 of us or maybe even just 2 of us having our say?

I think the Senator is correct, here. I still hope the Túischac'h and Mençéi will comment, but I checked the dates, and this bill will be able to be Clarked in 3 days in any case. Unfortunately, the fact that it's already in the unfixable Database machinery means the bill's proposer won't be able to take account of any further suggestions coming from the rest of the Committee.

AD, ESB, if you guys don't put your 2 bence in, Brenéir can't clark this until next time (as is my understanding).

We should lay some ground rules as to what "the CRL giving its recommendation" under El Lex H.6.6. Does this mean we have to have a 2/3 majority on an official report back? Or something looser, i.e. all 3 of us or maybe even just 2 of us having our say?

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on May 23, 2022, 10:26:26 AM
I would like to clark The One Milestone At A Time Act which can be found here: http://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1363.0

I don't think this is possible, because the CRL has not given a recommendation on this bill, nor has it been 30 days since the bill was passed to the CRL (see El Lexhatx H.6.6.) I have made a comment on it, but neither of the other two CRL members have done so.

There's still a week for the Túischac'h or the Mençei to put their two cents in.

In accordance with the Government's manifesto commitment to "simplify Talossan statute law as much as possible, repealing obsolete provisions", please post your suggestions to parts of El Lexhatx that we don't need in this thread. Suggestions for "parts we do need, but could stand to be simplified" are also accepted.

Yes, hello. I appoint Mic'halgh Autofíl as Deputy Minister of STUFF in charge of Talossaware; and Bradley Higgs as Deputy Minister of Technology in charge of talossa.com backend administration.

I should probably make it clear what "developing an alternative to the database" entails. The Chancery has been complaining for ages that the National Database is not user-friendly, and replies on its administrator M-P. Furxhéir for a lot of admin, while MPF is unavailable to Talossa a lot of the time due to his other commitments. The Ministry of Technology agrees with the Chancery that ideally we want to transfer all administration into Chancery hands; but if that just can't happen, then the Database will have to be replaced.

Ha ha, Kerry scoring a goal on the hated Dubs, many of my Irish friends will like that

Just noted we hadn't gotten around to this one.

I'm not sure about the wording "Under the auspices of etc etc etc." I would prefer something much more straightforward, like:

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D 1.6.: The Government shall develop and administer a programme whereby each citizen meeting specific time thresholds as a Talossan citizen, may request a certificate, signed by the Crown and the Seneschal. The suggested citizenship milestones are 5 years, 10 years, 25 years, 50 years, and 75 years.

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 26, 2022, 07:34:06 AM
The One Milestone at a Time Act

Whereas, every Talossan goes through meaningful milestones over the course of their lives, and

Whereas, it is a reasonable prerogative of the Kingdom to participate in celebrating the most meaningful of these milestones, and

Whereas, the longevity of each citizen's membership in the Kingdom is one of the most meaningful of milestones for each Talossan.

Therefore, be it resolved:

That a new section is added under D.1 The Government in El Lexhatx reading as follows:

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D 1.6.: Under the auspices of a program developed and administered by the Office of the Seneschal (Seneschal, Distain, or other official delegated responsibility) each citizen meeting specific time thresholds as a Talossan citizen, may request a certificate, signed by the Crown and the Seneschal. The suggested citizenship milestones are 5 years, 10 years, 25 years, 50 years, and 75 years.

Uréu q'estadra så:
Breneir Tzaracomprada (Sen-FL, TNC)
Mximo Carbonel (MC-RCT)
Baron Alexandreu Davinescu (MC-TNC)

Just wondering whether the proposer thinks this is ready to go before the CRL yet?

Just wondering whether the proposer thinks this is ready to go before the CRL yet?

Just wondering whether the proposer thinks this is ready to go before the CRL yet?

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