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[Assembly of Benito] The Third Time's The Charm Act

Started by Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP, April 02, 2024, 01:57:06 AM

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Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

WHEREAS the Sovereign Province of Benito has gone by two names throughout its existence; and

WHEREAS the previous name of "Mussolini" had multiple negative connotations and implications, and the name of "Benito" does little to dispel these in the context of its predecessor; and

WHEREAS the Sovereign Province is home to multiple scenic areas along the Manáweg; and

WHEREAS the Sovereign Province is nice enough to be named thrice (but really hopefully no more than that),

BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED that the Sovereign Province of Benito is hereby renamed the Free and Sovereign Province of Belacostă (meaning "beautiful riverbank") pending a referendum of the Province's citizenry, and that should this name be approved, all references to "Benito" in current provincial law shall be understood to refer to the same legal entity under its new name.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that upon approval of this referendum, the Government and Ziu are requested to give effect to this renaming at the federal level at their earliest convenience.

Uréu q'estadra så,
Mic'haglh Autófil MA
Sir Lüc da Schir MA
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Sir Lüc

I would like to cosponsor this, and to bring it to a vote as soon as practical.
Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB MC
Finance Minister / Ministreu dals Finançuns
Deputy Secretary of State / Distain Secretar d'Estat
Deputy Scribe of Abbavilla / Distain Grefieir d'Abbavillă
Directeur Sportif, Gordon Hiatus Support Team

Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

Quote from: Sir Lüc on April 03, 2024, 08:44:46 AMI would like to cosponsor this, and to bring it to a vote as soon as practical.

I mean...you control an outright majority of seats, I'm pretty sure you can vote to approve it whenever you want lol
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Sir Lüc

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on April 03, 2024, 10:32:03 AM
Quote from: Sir Lüc on April 03, 2024, 08:44:46 AMI would like to cosponsor this, and to bring it to a vote as soon as practical.

I mean...you control an outright majority of seats, I'm pretty sure you can vote to approve it whenever you want lol

That's hardly a reason to literally put it immediately for a vote.
Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB MC
Finance Minister / Ministreu dals Finançuns
Deputy Secretary of State / Distain Secretar d'Estat
Deputy Scribe of Abbavilla / Distain Grefieir d'Abbavillă
Directeur Sportif, Gordon Hiatus Support Team

Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

Quote from: Sir Lüc on April 04, 2024, 02:00:01 AM
Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on April 03, 2024, 10:32:03 AM
Quote from: Sir Lüc on April 03, 2024, 08:44:46 AMI would like to cosponsor this, and to bring it to a vote as soon as practical.

I mean...you control an outright majority of seats, I'm pretty sure you can vote to approve it whenever you want lol

That's hardly a reason to literally put it immediately for a vote.

I know, I'm just saying you effectively control the entire system. [Unlimited Power meme goes here.]

I have added you as a cosponsor, though.
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

One thing I have thought of -- this bill as worded requires a referendum. Presumably, that would require polling Benitians whether or not they are on Witt, which means emails. At this point, would it make sense to wait and send this out as part of the General Election ballot? Can GE ballots contain questions specific to voters from one province, apart from Senatorial elections?

Perhaps @Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB could weigh in on what the Chancery's capabilities are?
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on April 04, 2024, 11:33:12 PMOne thing I have thought of -- this bill as worded requires a referendum. Presumably, that would require polling Benitians whether or not they are on Witt, which means emails. At this point, would it make sense to wait and send this out as part of the General Election ballot? Can GE ballots contain questions specific to voters from one province, apart from Senatorial elections?

Perhaps @Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB could weigh in on what the Chancery's capabilities are?

The Chancery doesn't conduct local referendum elections. However, it is allowable under the law to provide to the provincial Governor (or whatever term you use locally) with the email address of those citizens who opt in to receiving emails.
Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
El Sovind Pudatïu / The Heir Presumptive
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode

Sir Lüc

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 05, 2024, 08:23:19 AM
Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on April 04, 2024, 11:33:12 PMOne thing I have thought of -- this bill as worded requires a referendum. Presumably, that would require polling Benitians whether or not they are on Witt, which means emails. At this point, would it make sense to wait and send this out as part of the General Election ballot? Can GE ballots contain questions specific to voters from one province, apart from Senatorial elections?

Perhaps @Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB could weigh in on what the Chancery's capabilities are?

The Chancery doesn't conduct local referendum elections. However, it is allowable under the law to provide to the provincial Governor (or whatever term you use locally) with the email address of those citizens who opt in to receiving emails.

Can the Chancery also send out mass mailers without divulging email addresses, or is that only reserved to party leaders in general election campaigns?
Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB MC
Finance Minister / Ministreu dals Finançuns
Deputy Secretary of State / Distain Secretar d'Estat
Deputy Scribe of Abbavilla / Distain Grefieir d'Abbavillă
Directeur Sportif, Gordon Hiatus Support Team

Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

The only mass mailers the Chancery can send are to those citizens who have opted in to receive such emails. I would think that in the case of an election, every citizen must receive notice.
Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
El Sovind Pudatïu / The Heir Presumptive
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode

Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 05, 2024, 09:54:22 AMThe only mass mailers the Chancery can send are to those citizens who have opted in to receive such emails. I would think that in the case of an election, every citizen must receive notice.
So my question then is -- how do we notify citizens who have opted out of receiving emails? Apart from the occasional "someone who knows someone else and can pass the word along" it would seem rather difficult.

I don't want to exclude anyone, but I also question the feasibility of including everyone if some members of {Everyone} have basically said "don't bug me".
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on April 05, 2024, 11:14:51 AM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 05, 2024, 09:54:22 AMThe only mass mailers the Chancery can send are to those citizens who have opted in to receive such emails. I would think that in the case of an election, every citizen must receive notice.
So my question then is -- how do we notify citizens who have opted out of receiving emails? Apart from the occasional "someone who knows someone else and can pass the word along" it would seem rather difficult.

I don't want to exclude anyone, but I also question the feasibility of including everyone if some members of {Everyone} have basically said "don't bug me".

Okay let me try to be more clear if possible. The provincial executive may email all citizens in a province with election/voting emails. That is why I offered to provide the list of citizen emails to the executive of your province.

The Chancery, on the other hand, handles specific elections such as General Elections, referenda called by the Seneschal, and upon request during a general election, provincial elections for Senate and provincial legislatures. The Chancery doesn't handle provincial referenda.

Apart from that, the only other emails the Chancery sends out are to those who have opted in, which includes L'Chronica, party emails, etc.

Whomever is the provincial executive of Benito can gain access to ALL citizen emails of Benito for the sole purpose of election balloting for provincial-based elections.

I hope that clears it up. It's not really as complicated, but there are certain laws the Chancery has to follow.
Sir Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, UrB, GST, O.SPM, SMM
El Sovind Pudatïu / The Heir Presumptive
Secretár d'Estat
Guaír del Sabor Talossan
The Squirrel Viceroy of Arms, The Rouge Elephant Herald, RTCoA
Cunstaval da Vuode

Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 05, 2024, 01:26:40 PMOkay let me try to be more clear if possible. The provincial executive may email all citizens in a province with election/voting emails. That is why I offered to provide the list of citizen emails to the executive of your province.

...

Whomever is the provincial executive of Benito can gain access to ALL citizen emails of Benito for the sole purpose of election balloting for provincial-based elections.

This is significantly more clear, so I'd say you succeeded. Originally it had sounded a bit like all of the emails were potentially in that "opted out" category. Thank you S:reu Secretar!
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Sir Lüc

That works just fine then -- I'll handle the mass mailing for the referendum myself.

On a different note, I'm now thinking we should get the voting done with sooner rather than later, since it's not like the pool of feedback-givers is getting markedly broader at this stage of the process.
Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB MC
Finance Minister / Ministreu dals Finançuns
Deputy Secretary of State / Distain Secretar d'Estat
Deputy Scribe of Abbavilla / Distain Grefieir d'Abbavillă
Directeur Sportif, Gordon Hiatus Support Team

Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP

Quote from: Sir Lüc on April 08, 2024, 04:26:35 AMThat works just fine then -- I'll handle the mass mailing for the referendum myself.

On a different note, I'm now thinking we should get the voting done with sooner rather than later, since it's not like the pool of feedback-givers is getting markedly broader at this stage of the process.

I would agree. Is there...some sort of motion we need to make to move to a vote?
Minister of Technology
The Long Fellow, Royal Talossan College of Arms
Specialist, Els Zuávs da l'Altahál Rexhitál
Zirecteir Naziunal, Parti da Reformaziun

Sir Lüc

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on April 09, 2024, 12:03:16 PM
Quote from: Sir Lüc on April 08, 2024, 04:26:35 AMThat works just fine then -- I'll handle the mass mailing for the referendum myself.

On a different note, I'm now thinking we should get the voting done with sooner rather than later, since it's not like the pool of feedback-givers is getting markedly broader at this stage of the process.

I would agree. Is there...some sort of motion we need to make to move to a vote?

No, just the presiding officer of the Assembly (you) holding such a vote, I think.
Sir Lüc da Schir, UrB MC
Finance Minister / Ministreu dals Finançuns
Deputy Secretary of State / Distain Secretar d'Estat
Deputy Scribe of Abbavilla / Distain Grefieir d'Abbavillă
Directeur Sportif, Gordon Hiatus Support Team