Quote from: Üc R. Tärfă on April 13, 2023, 10:17:49 AMJust to be clear: you asked if everyone had issues and I said yes.

And I also said that Alexandreu addition sounds good because it address a possible flaw in the law (even if very remote)- if the change I pointed out is made.

You are the one that declared that you were trying to make a bipartisan bill, and you are the one now that is saying that after all no, you are not interested at all.

I will restate for the third time. The section in question is to be included BUT if you have suggestions for edits that address your concern on principle then I am all ears. Ian opposed the reporting requirement and it was removed. Baron asked for language changed to be reflected and it was done. Miestra asked for feedback from a Vuodean and it happened. There have been multiple suggestions accommodated in this bill.

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Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 13, 2023, 08:58:11 AMYou typed many words without adding to the discussion. As I just stated I want that language included because we need to regularly review catchment areas not leave it to the whim of one superactive citizen.

And as I just stated I stand by the objections I already made and those made by Senator @Ian Plätschisch, you just need to click on the arrow below to read previous posts in this thread. I won't write again exactly what I and others already wrote.

Ok. So vote against the bill and let the people decide who is correct during the next election.

Or you can clark it without that section.

Or you can just split this bill in two if you really want to try to add that section: one with all the others sections and one with just that section.

Or I can clark a bill with the same text without that section, and you can vote against the bill and let the people decide who is correct during the next election.

Yes let the people decide. The section in question is staying. Reviewers are free to suggested edits to address purported concerns on principle but the reason for its inclusion is logical and based on principle as well. You are free to propose whatever you like.

Quote from: Üc R. Tärfă on April 13, 2023, 09:07:36 AM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 13, 2023, 08:58:11 AMYou typed many words without adding to the discussion. As I just stated I want that language included because we need to regularly review catchment areas not leave it to the whim of one superactive citizen.

And as I just stated I stand by the objections I already made and those made by Senator @Ian Plätschisch, you just need to click on the arrow below to read previous posts in this thread. I won't write again exactly what I and others already wrote.

Ok. So vote against the bill and let the people decide who is correct during the next election.

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Quote from: Üc R. Tärfă on April 13, 2023, 01:35:46 AMThe same issue I had with your proposed 7.13.

So no major issues then. This appears to be ready for clarking.

Well, a massive issue if you Clark it with that section as it stands now.

No

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 13, 2023, 06:59:42 AMPerhaps a new 7.14, reading, "The Ministry of Immigration shall have the discretion to determine appropriate provincial assignment when the statutory guidance is unclear or deprecated."  Or this could replace the proposed 7.13, if it suits the purpose.

Thanks Baron. I'll add a new 7.14. If someone has a better way to state 7.13 I am all ears but I would like to include some language that regularizes catchment area review. Ad-hoc and haphazard catchment area review is insufficient.

What does "no" means to you? I'm puzzled.

I said that there are massive issues if you'd Clark it with 7.13.

You replied "No".

And then you said that you are willing to include that section?

I appreciate Alexandreu addition, but I must stress that it is up to the Secretary of State and not the Minister of Immigration to determine the provincial assignment (Lexh.E.7).

However the issues on principle with 7.13 still stands, it's not only a problem of language.

You typed many words without adding to the discussion. As I just stated I want that language included because we need to regularly review catchment areas not leave it to the whim of one superactive citizen.

Quote from: Üc R. Tärfă on April 13, 2023, 05:34:24 AM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 13, 2023, 05:08:08 AM

Quote from: Üc R. Tärfă on April 13, 2023, 01:35:46 AMThe same issue I had with your proposed 7.13.

So no major issues then. This appears to be ready for clarking.

Well, a massive issue if you Clark it with that section as it stands now.

No

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 13, 2023, 06:59:42 AMPerhaps a new 7.14, reading, "The Ministry of Immigration shall have the discretion to determine appropriate provincial assignment when the statutory guidance is unclear or deprecated."  Or this could replace the proposed 7.13, if it suits the purpose.

Thanks Baron. I'll add a new 7.14. If someone has a better way to state 7.13 I am all ears but I would like to include some language that regularizes catchment area review. Ad-hoc and haphazard catchment area review is insufficient.

Quote from: Üc R. Tärfă on April 13, 2023, 01:35:46 AMThe same issue I had with your proposed 7.13.

So no major issues then. This appears to be ready for clarking.

If there are any outstanding issues please let me know. I'm planning on submitting this for the third clark.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 12, 2023, 07:44:56 PMWhew, fun stuff!  Can't wait to get that to Breneir and see it up on YouTube.  I can't believe you went on that long-winded rant about how people need to be more open to furries in Talossa, Ian.  That's right, folks -- check out the episode if you want to see it!

 ;D

May the love of a lifetime shared together light the darkness of your grief. Manus, you and your family will be in my prayers.

11 April 2023 - BHAID sends aid to the White Helmets

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The Bureau for Humanitarian Aid and International Development is nearing its 10-year anniversary so I want to thank Minister @Bråneu Excelsio for appointing me as its third Administrator. As my first act it is my pleasure to confirm the disbursement of aid funds (50 USD) to the Syrian Civil Defence (White Helmets) as Talossa's small but meaningful response to the devastating earthquakes in Türkiye and Syria. I have consulted with the Burgermeister of Inland Revenue @xpb that funds will be disbursed after the required statutory waiting period of fourteen (14) days.

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 11, 2023, 07:57:09 PM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 11, 2023, 06:49:21 PMI believe John is excited to officially be a citizen, Mr. Secretary. @Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB has the oath been sent to our newest potential citizen?

S:reu Seneschal the Oath of Citizenship was sent this morning and I have received the Oath. I will be issuing the Writ shortly.

I came home to some drama and a very sick kitty so you'll forgive me if this was not my top priority.

As a lover of kitties I understand, Txec.
Congratulations @johnoa

I believe John is excited to officially be a citizen, Mr. Secretary. @Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB has the oath been sent to our newest potential citizen?

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on April 11, 2023, 05:43:58 PM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 10, 2023, 07:54:54 PMI don't think volunteering personal funds, especially in service to a goal beneficial to the Kingdom, qualifies as a lack of transparency OR of bribery. I think this is exemplary and sacrificial public service.

Supplemental question, estimat Túischac'h!

Leaving aside for the moment the embarrassing spectacle of the Seneschál patting himself on the back for his exemplary and sacrificial public service, does the Seneschál agree that - if it becomes the norm for Government leaders to spend personal funds on particular projects, as opposed to "voluntary taxation" or donations to the Treasury - forthcoming elections will be partly based on which candidate for office is richer, and can thus "do more for Talossa"?

Wait, is me giving personal funds for both private and public projects not "voluntary taxation"?
I am not rich but Talossa is a personal priority for which I am willing to contribute the money I make. A better question is am I being attacked because I am too willing to contribute?

This is embarrassing nonsense, Miestra. Yes I am proud that I have been willing to contribute my time (and my money) to the Kingdom. And I will continue to do so and I will encourage others to do so too.

Quote from: Üc R. Tärfă on April 11, 2023, 01:51:27 PMWasn't anyone else available to fill that role apart from the Seneschal who already has many differents hats on his head?

Who's in charge to decide what BHAID will do?

Who better than the founder of the organization? This is a hat I can wear well.

Edited to add: The BHAID Administrator reports to the MinFor.

WHEREAS it has been more than a fortnight since John Oscar Andrews @johnoa first posted on Wittenberg, following his introduction to the citizens of the Kingdom by officers of the Immigration Ministry, and

WHEREAS he has, in that time, demonstrated an active, genuine, and continuing interest in Talossan life, culture, and language, and

WHEREAS he desires citizenship in the Kingdom of Talossa, and

WHEREAS by all indications it appears that he would be a loyal and dedicated citizen, and a credit to this nation if he obtains the grant of citizenship he requests, and

WHEREAS he will certainly spice up and enrich our Talossan culture,

THEREFORE I, Breneir Tzaracomprada, a citizen in good standing of the Province of Florencia and of the Kingdom of Talossa, do by the present petition the Secretary of State @Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB to issue a grant of citizenship to John Oscar Andrews, as specified by law.