Hello all, hope the UI change hasn't thrown you off too much.
We've upgraded Witt to SMF 2.1.2, which has understandably caused our old themes, the Discord embed and some mods to stop working. This was expected and nothing to worry about -- I just need time to sort stuff out.
I need to stop and take a break now, so I'll write more later as I continue working on the upgrade. Note that I don't expect Witt will need to be taken down again so you're all safe to keep using it.
Please use this thread for questions, feedback, comment, criticism and the like.
Great work!
Thank you Luc for your hard work on this. And for keeping us abreast of developments.
Thanks Lüc.
Of course!
Ok, all modifications we were using should now be either upgraded or no longer necessary. You'll also see the Discord shoutbox integration is back. I additionally managed to recover all "likes" as recorded by the old plugin to the new native function.
Another thing that is now native to SMF is mentions, so you folks should probably test that and tell me if they're working for you. I don't think I've used them much so idk what changed.
So what's left now is fixing anything that's broken (please report anything here so I can get to it), and working on the new themes.
Is this the first mention ever on the upgraded Witt?:
@Lüc Edit:
I've now seen that it doesn't show up if a Post was edited.
Don't know if it was better the other way.
Will we be able to get the "latest 59" back @luc?
Quote from: Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă, GST on September 19, 2022, 01:02:44 PMWill we be able to get the "latest 59" back @luc?
Sure! That might happen only when the new theme is brought in though, I need to check how I implemented it in the old version.
Quote from: Bråneu Excelsio on September 19, 2022, 12:46:53 PMEdit:
I've now seen that it doesn't show up if a Post was edited.
Don't know if it was better the other way.
Weird, I'll see if it's perhaps some new setting misbehaving.
Quote from: Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă, GST on September 19, 2022, 01:05:50 PMHmmm I didn't get an alert.
I've checked and browser alerts for mentions are on, but I didn't receive one either. I used to receive email alerts but apparently the new default is that they're off.
Actually, "Unread posts" seems to work better for me than Latest 59 ever did, so I hope we can keep both!
This is probably a good place to point out that Lüc has also been helping out getting some of the backend functionality of talossa.com, which Eðo had set up but had broken for some odd reason, working again.
I'm sure I will get used to it but as of right now I am not a fan of the new layout.
After like 5 visits today I'm fond of the Unread Posts button too.
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on September 19, 2022, 03:43:48 PMActually, "Unread posts" seems to work better for me than Latest 59 ever did, so I hope we can keep both!
That'd work for me also!
Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on September 19, 2022, 04:28:28 PMI'm sure I will get used to it but as of right now I am not a fan of the new layout.
Oh yeah, this is literally 100% vanilla SMF, I fully intend to bring back something similar to the old layout relatively soon. Like I said though, the old theme will not work with the new version, so I'll have to create a new theme from scratch and that requires a fair bit of time and effort.
@Lüc unfortunately I am still getting a 403 Forbidden message when making changes to my profile.
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on September 20, 2022, 12:45:52 PM@Lüc unfortunately I am still getting a 403 Forbidden message when making changes to my profile.
This is the first I hear of it. Do you mean *any* changes to your profile, like, just hitting "change profile" to save does that? Or does that trigger only when you change a specific field?
Oh, Btw! I totally forgot. A big reason why I insisted on doing the update was because SMF 2.1.2 adds Two Factors Authentication (2FA) support. I strongly recommend enabling this feature, on Witt and anywhere else that supports it (also, prefer using authenticator apps to SMS codes).
Quote from: Lüc on September 21, 2022, 03:11:53 AMQuote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on September 20, 2022, 12:45:52 PM@Lüc unfortunately I am still getting a 403 Forbidden message when making changes to my profile.
This is the first I hear of it. Do you mean *any* changes to your profile, like, just hitting "change profile" to save does that? Or does that trigger only when you change a specific field?
I tried replicating his error code once but didn't have an issue. I think, if I remember correctly, he is trying to update his picture?
Quote from: Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă, GST on September 21, 2022, 07:38:38 AMQuote from: Lüc on September 21, 2022, 03:11:53 AMQuote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on September 20, 2022, 12:45:52 PM@Lüc unfortunately I am still getting a 403 Forbidden message when making changes to my profile.
This is the first I hear of it. Do you mean *any* changes to your profile, like, just hitting "change profile" to save does that? Or does that trigger only when you change a specific field?
I tried replicating his error code once but didn't have an issue. I think, if I remember correctly, he is trying to update his picture?
Yes, that is correct! For some reason, when I go to update the profile pictures it tells me it is verboten. I am going to try and edit something else now as a test.
Quote from: Lüc on September 21, 2022, 03:18:30 AMOh, Btw! I totally forgot. A big reason why I insisted on doing the update was because SMF 2.1.2 adds Two Factors Authentication (2FA) support. I strongly recommend enabling this feature, on Witt and anywhere else that supports it (also, prefer using authenticator apps to SMS codes).
Thanks for the reminder. I've implemented it on my account.
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on September 21, 2022, 07:42:13 AMQuote from: Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă, GST on September 21, 2022, 07:38:38 AMQuote from: Lüc on September 21, 2022, 03:11:53 AMQuote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on September 20, 2022, 12:45:52 PM@Lüc unfortunately I am still getting a 403 Forbidden message when making changes to my profile.
This is the first I hear of it. Do you mean *any* changes to your profile, like, just hitting "change profile" to save does that? Or does that trigger only when you change a specific field?
I tried replicating his error code once but didn't have an issue. I think, if I remember correctly, he is trying to update his picture?
Yes, that is correct! For some reason, when I go to update the profile pictures it tells me it is verboten. I am going to try and edit something else now as a test.
Just tried to edit my signature and that failed as well unfortunately.
Something else I wanted to broach, is it possible to have a nonbinary option for gender? We currently have male, female, and none.
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on September 21, 2022, 07:42:13 AMQuote from: Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă, GST on September 21, 2022, 07:38:38 AMQuote from: Lüc on September 21, 2022, 03:11:53 AMQuote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on September 20, 2022, 12:45:52 PM@Lüc unfortunately I am still getting a 403 Forbidden message when making changes to my profile.
This is the first I hear of it. Do you mean *any* changes to your profile, like, just hitting "change profile" to save does that? Or does that trigger only when you change a specific field?
I tried replicating his error code once but didn't have an issue. I think, if I remember correctly, he is trying to update his picture?
Yes, that is correct! For some reason, when I go to update the profile pictures it tells me it is verboten. I am going to try and edit something else now as a test.
Witt really doesn't want to update the "Stoic Brenier pose" 😂
Quote from: Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă, GST on September 21, 2022, 07:44:04 AMQuote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on September 21, 2022, 07:42:13 AMQuote from: Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă, GST on September 21, 2022, 07:38:38 AMQuote from: Lüc on September 21, 2022, 03:11:53 AMQuote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on September 20, 2022, 12:45:52 PM@Lüc unfortunately I am still getting a 403 Forbidden message when making changes to my profile.
This is the first I hear of it. Do you mean *any* changes to your profile, like, just hitting "change profile" to save does that? Or does that trigger only when you change a specific field?
I tried replicating his error code once but didn't have an issue. I think, if I remember correctly, he is trying to update his picture?
Yes, that is correct! For some reason, when I go to update the profile pictures it tells me it is verboten. I am going to try and edit something else now as a test.
Witt really doesn't want to update the "Stoic Brenier pose" 😂
;D
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on September 21, 2022, 07:43:44 AMSomething else I wanted to broach, is it possible to have a nonbinary option for gender? We currently have male, female, and none.
I think so, but I took a look and I'm not sure how to implement that. Luc might know.
Very weird that you'd receive a 403 from editing any field. I could have understood if maybe folder permissions were wrong and it wouldn't let the software save your picture, but I don't even think that would be a 403, PHP would complain, not your browser. The error log has nothing related to that either.
I'm at a loss, honestly, especially since nobody else seems to be able to replicate it. You wouldn't happen to be using any uncommon extension, or maybe a VPN? Also perhaps post the exact address that triggers the 403?
As for an option for nonbinary gender, I did randomly spot while updating mods that SMF changed how it handles gender, so it was just a matter of minutes to add it. Thanks for bringing it up! (I also changed "None" to the more accurate "Not specified"? Like, agender is a thing, but I don't think that's what SMF meant.)
Stumbled on a possible fix for the 403. Try again,
@Breneir Tzaracomprada ?
One more thing: alerts for quotes and mentions are on the topmost bar. You don't get a popup notification though. (Maybe you need to enable them in your browser?)
I'll try to make them more visible in the new theme.
Quote from: Lüc on September 21, 2022, 11:49:21 AMStumbled on a possible fix for the 403. Try again, @Breneir Tzaracomprada ?
Thanks Luc. Testing now.
Excellent, it worked Luc!
For those of us who miss the latest 59 option, here is a little hack I discovered. WHen you select unread posts, it gives you this link: http://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?action=unread. If you change the word "unread" to "recent" you get this: http://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?action=recent. This will give the most recent posts, all expanded and easy to read.
So folks, what of the following functions do you often use/would you like to use?
- "Latest 59" (wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?action=recent (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?action=recent))
- Unread posts (wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?action=unread (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?action=recent))
- Updated topics (wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?action=unreadreplies (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?action=recent))
Just so I can take informed choices when designing the theme?
Latest 59 is one I used the most.
The first two. "Updated topics" never seems to have anything in it for me and I'm not sure what its algorithm is.
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on October 06, 2022, 02:25:19 PMThe first two. "Updated topics" never seems to have anything in it for me and I'm not sure what its algorithm is.
It's threads you have previously participated in and have gotten new posts since.
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Quote from: Lüc on October 06, 2022, 02:54:51 AMSo folks, what of the following functions do you often use/would you like to use?
- "Latest 59" (wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?action=recent (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?action=recent))
- Unread posts (wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?action=unread (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?action=recent))
- Updated topics (wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?action=unreadreplies (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?action=recent))
Just so I can take informed choices when designing the theme?
I've been a user of unread posts for years. That's the only way I get my Talossan fix every day.
FWIW, the current version of the (new) theme has all three links readily accessible, so people can just choose whatever they like best ^^
Hello, it's been a while since my last updates on the new theme. Progress has slowed down mostly due to my own academic pursuits, but the theme does exist and is functional - but it's not 100% finished, which means some scattered ugliness as I try to bend SMF to my will. (Let's just say that I now understand why there's so few 2.1 themes out there that go beyond a simple CSS edit...)
Anyhow, I've decided it's probably best if I released the theme to public consumption as a sort of public beta, with the understanding that it's not meant to be the finished product and I'm looking for feedback so I can tackle the most urgent issues/sore spots first.
If you want to take part in the public beta, just select the theme for yourself in your settings, or ping me here and I will enable it for you.
Oh, I should say -- the new theme is "LWT".
I'm pleased to see The Latest 59 again!
Any chance of a "light mode" in the LWT theme?
Lüc, aside from the file backup download functionality you implemented in late 2019 or early 2020, which I use to archive Witt for the Royal Archives, I am not a huge user or tinkerer with Wittenberg.
In my historical research, I've discovered the existence of a very short-lived BBS before the first forum labled 'Wittenberg', which means 'Wittenberg XIV' probably has the wrong number. Too late to change that now, lol. That BBS I think was mentioned in the nigh-on complete Stot archive from 1996-1999.
I say to you, Lüc, do nothing in Talossa but Witt administration. I'm very serious on this. Do nothing but Witt-admin. We don't want you getting burned out again.
A thousand thanks to you and profound appreciation for your continuing work with Talossa! - GV
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on November 25, 2022, 06:09:04 PMAny chance of a "light mode" in the LWT theme?
Yes, that will come when the dark theme is fully implemented. I'd first want to see if I can do it "properly" with a switch you can toggle from the top bar, otherwise I'll just clone the theme and call it a day, as was the case with the old SMF 2.0 theme.
New theme looks great! Witt logo looks weirdly busier -- wonder if that's just because it's larger here.
One thing I notice: liking or unliking forces the page to refresh, which seems undesirable.
Doesn't seem like you can view your alerts when using a new theme. It just sends you to your messages.
It looks like that happens on the mobile version, at least for me. On desktop version clicking on alerts takes me to alerts.
Yes, can confirm -- only mobile has this behavior. It works properly on web.
Yeah, it's a known bug (which actually was a fix to a previous bug, that didn't work because I can't read). I'll pick it up again next week.
On the alerts page, "mark all as read" should ideally also be at the top of the page. Also, it doesn't seem to work.
Sorry to keep up with the bug reports -- trying to be helpful!
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on December 08, 2022, 07:49:58 AMOn the alerts page, "mark all as read" should ideally also be at the top of the page. Also, it doesn't seem to work.
Sorry to keep up with the bug reports -- trying to be helpful!
Oh by all means keep them coming, that's why I opened this up for public consumption! I was just trying to say that I won't be able to work on the code for a few more days still.