Quote from: Istefan Perþonest on April 11, 2024, 02:38:35 PMSo, off the top of my head:

1) The "automatically becomes law" provision is explicitly inOrganic, as it does not allow for a veto of legislation by the Cunstaval. "No Cunstavál shall proclaim any provincial constitution, nor shall any province pass a constitutional amendment, which  . . . grants to the Cunstavál royal powers less extensive than those granted to the King on the national level", and the King's royal powers include a veto.

2) See above on the lack of Cunstaval counter-signature for gubernatorial proclamations, compared to the same for Prime Dictates. (Also compare Fiovan executive orders requiring Cunstaval and Captain.)

That's a fair concern. Would a set time limit to veto be considered Organically-compliant? Otherwise the indefinite refusal of the King (and in our local case, the Cunstaval) to acknowledge the nation's existence would prevent anything from getting done.

I know the other big thing was reforming the province's legislative structure. I had some thoughts on this that I've put in a draft constitution here.

It largely follows the Fiovan governmental model (three-member executive with the citizenry as a popular assembly), while keeping a few clauses and sections from the current Benitian Constitution for continuity's sake. I did use the Belacostă name, simply for the sake of seeing how it looks on paper (and also because it seems to have a good chance of becoming official anyway). That highlighted Section in Article I is unchanged from its current form, but I figure we'll look at redesigning the flag once we fry the bigger fish. (Though I may have attached a few ideas. You know me, any excuse to make a flag...)

One thing I did wish to include is a clause ensuring that provinces that merge into this one (should our constitution be good enough for them without amendment) is that their chief executive gets a seat on the Provincial Council for the remainder of that term. This is to ensure that all citizens of the merged province have representation in their government. I think planning ahead for future reforms and creating a flexible constitution with them in mind will serve us well.

Quote from: Sir Lüc on April 08, 2024, 04:26:35 AMThat works just fine then -- I'll handle the mass mailing for the referendum myself.

On a different note, I'm now thinking we should get the voting done with sooner rather than later, since it's not like the pool of feedback-givers is getting markedly broader at this stage of the process.

I would agree. Is there...some sort of motion we need to make to move to a vote?

Quote from: Iason Taiwos on April 08, 2024, 02:01:13 PM

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on April 07, 2024, 08:14:21 PMApril 7 is Cjovani Day, which "honors a trailblazing example of Talossan subcultural development, the Cjovani Benitians, and serves as a day for Talossans to consider the potential for future subcultures in their own provinces".

While not a Cjovani myself, to my fellow Benitians who are, I hope today has been a particularlay good day for you in whatever you have been up to.

One of the hallmarks of Cjovani culture is the the viewing of Spaghetti Western films. Do any Talossans have a favorite Spaghetti Western film? If so, why?

I can't speak for the other Cjovani, but my April 7th wasn't very pleasant...was plagued by allergies all day! (And today too!)
My favorite Spaghetti western is "Once Upon a Time in the West". It's just such a beautifully done film. (Sergio Leone's best, in my opinion.)

Well I certainly hope you feel better soon!

I will admit most of my spaghetti western knowledge is second-hand -- The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly is the only "OG"-era film I've seen, the rest are more "informed by spaghetti westerns", so to speak (Tarantino, mostly). But boy howdy does Ennio Morricone know how to score a film.

April 7 is Cjovani Day, which "honors a trailblazing example of Talossan subcultural development, the Cjovani Benitians, and serves as a day for Talossans to consider the potential for future subcultures in their own provinces".

While not a Cjovani myself, to my fellow Benitians who are, I hope today has been a particularlay good day for you in whatever you have been up to.

One of the hallmarks of Cjovani culture is the the viewing of Spaghetti Western films. Do any Talossans have a favorite Spaghetti Western film? If so, why?

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 05, 2024, 01:26:40 PMOkay let me try to be more clear if possible. The provincial executive may email all citizens in a province with election/voting emails. That is why I offered to provide the list of citizen emails to the executive of your province.

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Whomever is the provincial executive of Benito can gain access to ALL citizen emails of Benito for the sole purpose of election balloting for provincial-based elections.

This is significantly more clear, so I'd say you succeeded. Originally it had sounded a bit like all of the emails were potentially in that "opted out" category. Thank you S:reu Secretar!

Not sure if we common rabble are permitted to speak in the Hopper section but on a point of grammar, "to accede to the throne" and "to ascend the throne" are equivalent terms.

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 05, 2024, 09:54:22 AMThe only mass mailers the Chancery can send are to those citizens who have opted in to receive such emails. I would think that in the case of an election, every citizen must receive notice.

So my question then is -- how do we notify citizens who have opted out of receiving emails? Apart from the occasional "someone who knows someone else and can pass the word along" it would seem rather difficult.

I don't want to exclude anyone, but I also question the feasibility of including everyone if some members of {Everyone} have basically said "don't bug me".

One thing I have thought of -- this bill as worded requires a referendum. Presumably, that would require polling Benitians whether or not they are on Witt, which means emails. At this point, would it make sense to wait and send this out as part of the General Election ballot? Can GE ballots contain questions specific to voters from one province, apart from Senatorial elections?

Perhaps @Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB could weigh in on what the Chancery's capabilities are?

Quote from: Sir Lüc on April 04, 2024, 02:00:01 AM

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on April 03, 2024, 10:32:03 AM

Quote from: Sir Lüc on April 03, 2024, 08:44:46 AMI would like to cosponsor this, and to bring it to a vote as soon as practical.

I mean...you control an outright majority of seats, I'm pretty sure you can vote to approve it whenever you want lol

That's hardly a reason to literally put it immediately for a vote.

I know, I'm just saying you effectively control the entire system. [Unlimited Power meme goes here.]

I have added you as a cosponsor, though.

Quote from: Sir Lüc on April 03, 2024, 08:44:46 AMI would like to cosponsor this, and to bring it to a vote as soon as practical.

I mean...you control an outright majority of seats, I'm pretty sure you can vote to approve it whenever you want lol

WHEREAS the Sovereign Province of Benito has gone by two names throughout its existence; and

WHEREAS the previous name of "Mussolini" had multiple negative connotations and implications, and the name of "Benito" does little to dispel these in the context of its predecessor; and

WHEREAS the Sovereign Province is home to multiple scenic areas along the Manáweg; and

WHEREAS the Sovereign Province is nice enough to be named thrice (but really hopefully no more than that),

BE IT HEREBY RESOLVED that the Sovereign Province of Benito is hereby renamed the Free and Sovereign Province of Belacostă (meaning "beautiful riverbank") pending a referendum of the Province's citizenry, and that should this name be approved, all references to "Benito" in current provincial law shall be understood to refer to the same legal entity under its new name.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED that upon approval of this referendum, the Government and Ziu are requested to give effect to this renaming at the federal level at their earliest convenience.

Uréu q'estadra så,
Mic'haglh Autófil MA
Sir Lüc da Schir MA

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on April 01, 2024, 04:03:07 PMI apologise for barging in, but is it possible to adjust the spelling to merely Belacostă or would it require a new poll?

Well nothing about any of this is particularly binding, so if "Belacostă" is the correct spelling of the name proposed above I see no reason why we can't use that instead. (I'm assuming 'ă' doesn't really get used mid-word?)

Name           1st-choice   2nd   3rd   Total
Belăcostă           3        0     0      9
Benschagă           0        1     0      2
Cjartzara           0        1     0      2
Berberïă            0        0     1      1
Cjarföglha          0        0     1      1

As the poll has been open the full week, I guess it's safe to say we have not just our top-three candidates, but our clear favorite. I'll draft something tonight to put forth in the Assembly to make Belăcostă the name of the province.

The province so nice, they named it thrice!

Quote- Have a public consultation on this forum to come up with potential new names;
- Decide on a candidate name by some kind of process of elimination, if needed;
- Introduce and pass legislation at the provincial level amending the Constitution;  <--- We Are Here
- Introduce and pass legislation at the national level amending El Lexhatx.

Quote from: Carlüs Éovart Vilaçafat on April 01, 2024, 08:48:25 AMThese look great! And I've always been partial to the long flowing lines of Seal Script myself.

-TFF

Thank you! I'm rather fond of it as well -- I will admit I'm a little tempted to try and clean this one up, compared to some instances of seal script it doesn't have quite the same flow to it, but if nothing else it's a good starting point.

- TLF