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Show posts MenuQuote from: þerxh Sant-Enogat on November 14, 2023, 06:07:59 AMDo you want me to submit to l'Etats a new law and a new CAG with the modifications suggested above ? or do you have other ideas for the representation of Cézembrean citizens ?
Imo, it's better to discuss what we want before a vote on a text ;-)
@Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN @Glüc da Dhi S.H. @xpb
Quote from: þerxh Sant-Enogat on October 31, 2023, 08:39:31 AMTell me if I'm correct :
MRPC has 3 votes, XPB Party has 4 votes, TNC has 4 votes.
According to the CAG : "Article 9. After elections to l'Etats, each party will receive 20 numbers, which will be produced by dividing the number of votes the party received by 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 and 20. The 20 highest numbers will be referred to as high quotients. In case the 20th highest number has the same value as the 21th highest number all numbers with the same value will not be considered high quotients. This will result in vacant seats in the assembly. Each party will receive a number of seats, equal to the number of high quotients it received. Each party may divide its seats amongst Cézembrian citizens as it sees fit"
votes 3 4 4
1 3 4 4
2 1.5 2 2
3 1 1.33 1.33
4 0.75 1 1
5 0.6 0.8 0.8
6 0.5 0.67 0.67
7 0.43 0.57 0.57
8 0.375 0.5 0.5
This method allocates 7 seats to XPB Party, 7 seats to TNC, 5 seats to MRPC (and the 20th seat is not allocated as the 20th highest number (0.5 in this case) has the same value as the 21th highest.
As one citizen cannot have more than 6 seats, XPB party and TNC must give at least one of their vote to a second individual to enjoy the full benefit of their 7 seats.
Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on October 19, 2023, 10:43:59 PMQuote from: Bentxami Puntmasleu on October 19, 2023, 02:00:31 PMQuote from: xpb on October 19, 2023, 01:49:31 PMThere had been talk of establishing a Cézembre consulate in Vuode https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=634.msg5009#msg5009
Oh, that seems like a neat idea. I don't see why the Estats Xhenerais couldn't put that on the agenda for the next Grand Session. Do you know why nothing came of it those two or three years ago?
Mainly because we did not have any active members in the Estats Xhenerais except for myself and I was brand new to the nation...hell I still don't really understand how everything works
Quote from: Bentxami Puntmasleu on October 19, 2023, 01:16:27 PMQuote from: xpb on October 19, 2023, 11:01:01 AMGreat ideas, and also it would be interesting if your province would support seasonal occasional non-residential spots in Vuode for those from other locations.
Interesting. What do you mean by that? Something like ceremonial (in the sense of not being entirely physical) vacation/summer/winter homes in Vuode for Talossan citizens from other provinces? Or do you mean something else? In any case, I think it's worth considering. Though of course I can't speak for anyone other than myself, I would think we should be open to experiment with various ideas to reinvigorate our province, so long as it is consistent with our Vuodean and Talossan identity.Quote from: Bentxami Puntmasleu on October 19, 2023, 01:16:27 PMQuote from: xpb on October 19, 2023, 11:01:01 AMGreat ideas, and also it would be interesting if your province would support seasonal occasional non-residential spots in Vuode for those from other locations.
Interesting. What do you mean by that? Something like ceremonial (in the sense of not being entirely physical) vacation/summer/winter homes in Vuode for Talossan citizens from other provinces? Or do you mean something else? In any case, I think it's worth considering. Though of course I can't speak for anyone other than myself, I would think we should be open to experiment with various ideas to reinvigorate our province, so long as it is consistent with our Vuodean and Talossan identity.
There had been talk of establishing a Cézembre consulate in Vuode https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=634.msg5009#msg5009
Quote from: Bentxami Puntmasleu on October 19, 2023, 12:36:55 AMI had an idea earlier today that I would like to run by my fellow Vuodean citizens. Maybe when the next General Session begins, the Estats Xhenerais could work on implementing it if there's any interest. I am working on a draft proposal. This proposal has two main parts.
The first part of this proposal is to establish a mechanism by which provincial citizens can claim residence in one of the townships and, by extension, parishes and cantons. For most (if not all) of us, this residence would be ceremonial. Those of us who actually reside within Vuode (I do not, by the way) might claim their township of actual residence, although I suppose they could claim ceremonial residence elsewhere instead if they would prefer. Of course, given our provincial population and rate of growth, the vast majority of our townships and parishes would not have any Talossan residents for the foreseeable future. Further, of the townships that do have Talossan residents, most (if not all) would have only one). I don't see that as a major problem. It might actually simplify the second part of this idea. I will point out that this idea doesn't necessarily mandate provincial citizens to claim a township (and/or a parish and canton). I don't see why some provincial citizens couldn't opt of residing anywhere but the Province of Vuode at large, if they would prefer. This claiming of residence would be voluntary.
The second part of this proposal is for the township, parishes, and cantons that do have Talossan residents to exercise limited home rule. A township, parish, or canton with at least one resident could then choose to incorporate by proposing to the Premier (or someone else entrusted by the Premier for this purpose) a charter for democratic local governance. Pending the Premier's (or deputy's) approval of the charter, the now incorporated township, parish, or canton could govern itself in accordance with its charter. Examples of what an incorporated community could do include naming features within the community, designing a flag for the community, and proclaiming holidays.
It is important to note that this wouldn't be a federalization of the province. The incorporated communities would be totally subject to the provincial authorities, whose approval would be necessary for acts of the incorporated community to take effect. Provincial authorities could also amend, revoke, etc. any act of and incorporated community or event he charter itself.
In incorporated communities with just one resident (likely, the most common as stated above) the process of local governance wou;d be very simple. In incorporated communities with more that one resident, all the residents would constitute a local legislature, with one resident elected as leader, to facilitate this legislature, keep record of its acts, petition the provincial authorities for approval, etc. A community would not necessarily have to incorporate either. For example, if the townships of Saxony and Inkcone both had residents and were incorporated, the residents of both wouldn't necessarily have to incorporate Cone Parish. They might agree among themselves to do so, but they wouldn't have to.
I feel this arrangement would benefit the province by allowing detailed characteristics to develop with the provincial government itself having to act. Each citizen (or very small group of citizens) could develop pieces of the Vuodean history and culture in their own township of residence. I realize there may be a lot of hiccups to work out, but I do think it is worth considering.