Immigration Report
Month Ending: February 2020
Part One: This Month's Stats
Immigration cases carried forward from January 2020: 8
Number of new applications received in February 2020: 9 (Decrease from last month = -18%)
– Of which, were rejected outright: 2 (Both for being identified as a spam bot)
– of which, the applicant created a Wittenberg account: 2 (Decrease from last month = -66%)
Number of accepted applicants that did not go on to create a Witt account: 5 (Increase from last month = 66%)
Number of active cases leading to a naturalization: 2
Number of active cases terminated: 4
Number of active immigration cases carrying forward to the next period: 4
(Decrease from last month = -50%)
Part Two: Administrative tasks completed and policy decisions made by immigration authorities in the reporting period
a) Permanent Secretary for Immigration remains vacant: The Minister of the Interior has decided not to delegate the duties of immigration until all planned reforms are in place.
b) Status of immigration in relation to migration to 'New Wittenberg': The Chancery certified New Wittenberg as the new official forum for Kingdom business during this month, thus all immigration business shall now be handled there. Only one active application remains on the old forum, however that applicant has also registered on the new forums (dual threads). Immigration will have completed full Witt migration upon conclusion of that particular case.
c) The legislative proposals put forward by the Ministry last month have been passed into law by the Legislature. The changes made by those bills shall take effect immediately (pending Royal signature/veto) and shall be implemented during the next month.
d) A major project has been started by the Ministry to build a new online resource for immigration services. This project ties together with another project which started last month (creation of new citizen packets). Both of these projects (now in tandem) will take a considerable length of time to complete, however a target for completion has been set for within the current Cosa session.
I can't put this in the logical thread because you locked it, but Mateus did make a post on Witt:
https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=144.0
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on April 04, 2020, 12:15:47 PM
I can't put this in the logical thread because you locked it, but Mateus did make a post on Witt:
https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=144.0
But not in the official immigration thread.
Quote from: Eðo Grischun on April 05, 2020, 08:01:23 AM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on April 04, 2020, 12:15:47 PM
I can't put this in the logical thread because you locked it, but Mateus did make a post on Witt:
https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=144.0
But not in the official immigration thread.
Hmm, I guess you're right that under E.5 you can stop an immigration process regardless of posts
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on April 05, 2020, 08:07:15 AM
Quote from: Eðo Grischun on April 05, 2020, 08:01:23 AM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on April 04, 2020, 12:15:47 PM
I can't put this in the logical thread because you locked it, but Mateus did make a post on Witt:
https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=144.0
But not in the official immigration thread.
Hmm, I guess you're right that under E.5 you can stop an immigration process regardless of posts
Well, yeah, under E5 I can, but I've not checked exactly which statute this particular case falls under. It might be E5, it might not.
I am under the impression that 'first Witt posts' MUST take place in the immigration thread and not elsewhere on Witt.
If a prospective posted on May 1st in the Hopper and then on May 2nd in the immigration thread, then May 2nd is the start of the 15 day examination period.
This particular case, the prospective only ever posted once and did so outside of immigration. The examination period never began.
Hey Eðo, @GonzagaEagles16 was saying on Discord that he/she hasn't been verified yet. Not sure where along the process this case is.
Quote from: Lüc on April 05, 2020, 09:08:15 AM
Hey Eðo, @GonzagaEagles16 was saying on Discord that he/she hasn't been verified yet. Not sure where along the process this case is.
Nevermind, apparently the account has been deleted?
Quote from: Lüc on April 05, 2020, 09:09:58 AM
Quote from: Lüc on April 05, 2020, 09:08:15 AM
Hey Eðo, @GonzagaEagles16 was saying on Discord that he/she hasn't been verified yet. Not sure where along the process this case is.
Nevermind, apparently the account has been deleted?
Ask them to re-register, but this time to use the same email address they applied with. I had 3 accounts registered in the past 24 hours along with 3 applications, but have six unique email addresses! I need them to register with a username or email that matches something from the application.
(Discord doesn't work for me, btw. I figured it was getting tweaked and was unavailable. I guess not, but it's not coming up on my screen)
Quote from: Eðo Grischun on April 05, 2020, 08:15:45 AM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on April 05, 2020, 08:07:15 AM
Quote from: Eðo Grischun on April 05, 2020, 08:01:23 AM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on April 04, 2020, 12:15:47 PM
I can't put this in the logical thread because you locked it, but Mateus did make a post on Witt:
https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=144.0
But not in the official immigration thread.
Hmm, I guess you're right that under E.5 you can stop an immigration process regardless of posts
Well, yeah, under E5 I can, but I've not checked exactly which statute this particular case falls under. It might be E5, it might not.
I am under the impression that 'first Witt posts' MUST take place in the immigration thread and not elsewhere on Witt.
If a prospective posted on May 1st in the Hopper and then on May 2nd in the immigration thread, then May 2nd is the start of the 15 day examination period.
This particular case, the prospective only ever posted once and did so outside of immigration. The examination period never began.
That's certainly not how I interpret E.4:
" 4. An examination period shall begin with the prospective citizen's first posting to Wittenberg after his introduction by the Interior Minister..."
(edit: Apologies. I pressed modify instead of quote. Eddie.)
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on April 05, 2020, 11:56:17 AM
Quote from: Eðo Grischun on April 05, 2020, 08:15:45 AM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on April 05, 2020, 08:07:15 AM
Quote from: Eðo Grischun on April 05, 2020, 08:01:23 AM
Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on April 04, 2020, 12:15:47 PM
I can't put this in the logical thread because you locked it, but Mateus did make a post on Witt:
https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=144.0
But not in the official immigration thread.
Hmm, I guess you're right that under E.5 you can stop an immigration process regardless of posts
Well, yeah, under E5 I can, but I've not checked exactly which statute this particular case falls under. It might be E5, it might not.
I am under the impression that 'first Witt posts' MUST take place in the immigration thread and not elsewhere on Witt.
If a prospective posted on May 1st in the Hopper and then on May 2nd in the immigration thread, then May 2nd is the start of the 15 day examination period.
This particular case, the prospective only ever posted once and did so outside of immigration. The examination period never began.
That's certainly not how I interpret E.4:
" 4. An examination period shall begin with the prospective citizen's first posting to Wittenberg after his introduction by the Interior Minister..."
(edit: Apologies. I pressed modify instead of quote. Eddie.)
I'm looking into it and will seek guidance. It very possibly might be a case of me working off of an old rule that existed in the past but no longer exists today.
If I'm wrong, I'm not sure if I'm legally allowed to reverse my prior decision though. Ideally, I would be able to hold my hands up to the mistake, reverse the application rejection and allow it to run its course per Lex.E.4, but I'm not sure I can actually do that or if now that it's done then it needs to go to the Ziu?