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Title: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on May 28, 2024, 05:41:32 PM
(redirected from the official Chancery thread because I doubt Txec will be happy with people clogging it up like we are)
Quote from: Bråneu Excelsio on May 28, 2024, 04:56:22 PM
Quote from: Barclamïu da Miéletz on May 28, 2024, 03:20:36 PM
Quote from: Bråneu Excelsio on May 26, 2024, 08:17:09 PMPARTY REGISTRATION

* Civilian Outreach for Fun and Enjoyable Events.

* Initials
 (COFFEE)


* 50 word statement:
I have dedicated my energy to promote the values of healthy coexistence, Community, the Arts, Fun and Excitement.
My goal is to unite people through shared vissions and bring unity and positivity to Talossa; to balance different viewpoints and unite Talossa for a better future.

* Party Leader: @Bråneu Excelsio.



Arts you say? Sounds interesting.

Before you arrived I was the hyperactive dude for a while too, but even before knowing what was going on, I was recluted by the same guy who recluted you and had to quit everything later on, tricky little thing, politics.

I am always interested in how that citizen was so good at "recluting" people when the Free Democrats couldn't, even when approaching newbies right out of the immigration queue - but I suppose where all that ended up with the current "TNC potato sack" breaking. It's harder to recruit to a party of principle but it means a more resilient party in the long run.

QuoteIt's a good idea to stay out of politics, but having a seat in the Cosa is kind of fun. If you can afford the $10 dollars, making your own party seems fun, isn't it?

It is kind of fun, but it also means you become a "main character" in politics, with people from all sides lobbying you for your vote, to join their coalition, etc, and you make enemies as fast as you make friends. This is why we brought in the provision for "1 seat for new citizens", to bring in a low-stakes way to start in politics. For some reason people have just not been interested in that. Wild, as 1 seat in the last Cosa would have changed everything.
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Bråneu Excelsio, UrN on May 28, 2024, 06:24:03 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on May 28, 2024, 05:41:32 PMbut I suppose where all that ended up with the current "TNC potato sack" breaking.
(https://i.imgur.com/cMMcHJs.png)

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on May 28, 2024, 05:41:32 PMyou make enemies as fast as you make friends. This is why we brought in the provision for "1 seat for new citizens", to bring in a low-stakes way to start in politics. For some reason people have just not been interested in that. Wild, as 1 seat in the last Cosa would have changed everything.

I think this info should be added to the New Citizen Guide, provided to new citizens.
When I Joined I had no idea what the Cosa was and didn't understand why would I care about one seat in it; now I'm spending 2 coffees worth of money for 1 seat.
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on May 28, 2024, 06:51:48 PM
Quote from: Bråneu Excelsio on May 28, 2024, 06:24:03 PMWhen I Joined I had no idea what the Cosa was and didn't understand why would I care about one seat in it; now I'm spending 2 coffees worth of money for 1 seat.

1 vote will get you at least 2, maybe 3 seats!
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on May 28, 2024, 07:05:12 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on May 28, 2024, 05:41:32 PMIt is kind of fun, but it also means you become a "main character" in politics, with people from all sides lobbying you for your vote, to join their coalition, etc, and you make enemies as fast as you make friends. This is why we brought in the provision for "1 seat for new citizens", to bring in a low-stakes way to start in politics. For some reason people have just not been interested in that. Wild, as 1 seat in the last Cosa would have changed everything.

I know that I mentioned this as an option when I talked with new citizens. I don't know if it continued after I was MinImm. That may be why its use declined. But I am still glad to have co-sponsored the legislation and hope it will be used more in the future.


Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Mic’haglh Autófil, O.Be on May 28, 2024, 07:38:36 PM
That provision is criminally underutilized. Would be a lot of fun to see newer citizens taking advantage of it in the future!
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 28, 2024, 07:40:38 PM
Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on May 28, 2024, 07:38:36 PMThat provision is criminally underutilized. Would be a lot of fun to see newer citizens taking advantage of it in the future!
For sure -- we've had a couple people do it, but it probably needs promotion again.  Maybe we need a quickstart guide for them added to the What's Going On page?
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Mic’haglh Autófil, O.Be on May 28, 2024, 07:44:57 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 28, 2024, 07:40:38 PM
Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on May 28, 2024, 07:38:36 PMThat provision is criminally underutilized. Would be a lot of fun to see newer citizens taking advantage of it in the future!
For sure -- we've had a couple people do it, but it probably needs promotion again.  Maybe we need a quickstart guide for them added to the What's Going On page?

May also be worth the MinImm -- whether the incumbent or their successor -- making a note of alerting them to its existence once they've been naturalized.
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 28, 2024, 07:47:10 PM
Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on May 28, 2024, 07:44:57 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 28, 2024, 07:40:38 PM
Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on May 28, 2024, 07:38:36 PMThat provision is criminally underutilized. Would be a lot of fun to see newer citizens taking advantage of it in the future!
For sure -- we've had a couple people do it, but it probably needs promotion again.  Maybe we need a quickstart guide for them added to the What's Going On page?

May also be worth the MinImm -- whether the incumbent or their successor -- making a note of alerting them to its existence once they've been naturalized.
Yes, I agree.  That was done for a couple of months, and it had great success.  We should get back to it.
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: þerxh Sant-Enogat on May 29, 2024, 02:11:54 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 28, 2024, 07:47:10 PM
Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on May 28, 2024, 07:44:57 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 28, 2024, 07:40:38 PM
Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on May 28, 2024, 07:38:36 PMThat provision is criminally underutilized. Would be a lot of fun to see newer citizens taking advantage of it in the future!
For sure -- we've had a couple people do it, but it probably needs promotion again.  Maybe we need a quickstart guide for them added to the What's Going On page?

May also be worth the MinImm -- whether the incumbent or their successor -- making a note of alerting them to its existence once they've been naturalized.
Yes, I agree.  That was done for a couple of months, and it had great success.  We should get back to it.
Good idea. Where's the text ? I think we owe a clear information to new citizens being proposed a seat in the Cosa, explaining we forbid broosking and that there are risks of political pressure when voting.
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Sir Lüc on May 30, 2024, 05:10:36 AM
If the proliferation of new parties isn't a call for me to get back to doing Talomat, I don't know what is.
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 01, 2024, 04:06:29 PM
Ah, I am happy to see the PdR is back. @Mic'haglh Autófil, SMC EiP
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 16, 2024, 01:04:49 PM
Interesting note from Day 1 of voting. Nearly a third of all votes so far from the province of Maricopa alone. The cabana is rocking with 7 votes already on Day 1.
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Glüc on June 23, 2024, 01:43:57 PM
Remember to vote people!

(On the Talossan Music Top 20 Semifinal (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=3199.msg27919#msg27919) I mean. The General Elections are also important I guess.)
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Carlüs Éovart Vilaçafat on June 24, 2024, 08:11:00 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 16, 2024, 01:04:49 PMInteresting note from Day 1 of voting. Nearly a third of all votes so far from the province of Maricopa alone. The cabana is rocking with 7 votes already on Day 1.

That's because Maricopa is the best province. (Says a Maricopan that has not voted yet lol)
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 26, 2024, 12:08:15 PM
Quote from: Carlüs Éovart Vilaçafat on June 24, 2024, 08:11:00 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 16, 2024, 01:04:49 PMInteresting note from Day 1 of voting. Nearly a third of all votes so far from the province of Maricopa alone. The cabana is rocking with 7 votes already on Day 1.

That's because Maricopa is the best province. (Says a Maricopan that has not voted yet lol)

I believe it now. Maricopa is still in the lead for voters at 14(!)
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 27, 2024, 05:25:45 PM
The nacho-shaped province and the one with vowels, Florencia and Maritiimi-Maxhestic, are unfortunately tied with the lowest turnout of just 6 voters.
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Zilect Uómbat Firă on June 27, 2024, 06:55:31 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 27, 2024, 05:25:45 PMThe nacho-shaped province and the one with vowels, Florencia and Maritiimi-Maxhestic, are unfortunately tied with the lowest turnout of just 6 voters.

Is turnout normally this low?
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 27, 2024, 07:25:07 PM
Quote from: Zilect Uómbat Firă on June 27, 2024, 06:55:31 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 27, 2024, 05:25:45 PMThe nacho-shaped province and the one with vowels, Florencia and Maritiimi-Maxhestic, are unfortunately tied with the lowest turnout of just 6 voters.

Is turnout normally this low?

Usually a bit higher but we still have a few days to go.
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 30, 2024, 12:43:21 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 27, 2024, 05:25:45 PMThe nacho-shaped province and the one with vowels, Florencia and Maritiimi-Maxhestic, are unfortunately tied with the lowest turnout of just 6 voters.

With additional votes coming in from Florencia and Vuode, Maritiimi-Maxhestic now has the worst turnout in raw numbers staying at just 6 voters.
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 30, 2024, 12:46:40 PM
Quote from: Sir Lüc on May 30, 2024, 05:10:36 AMIf the proliferation of new parties isn't a call for me to get back to doing Talomat, I don't know what is.

I'm sad this didn't happen. The last one certainly contributed to political discussions.
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Glüc on June 30, 2024, 02:41:58 PM
I haven't paid much attention this election to be honest, but is just me or have all parties other than FreeDems and OpenSociety run a pretty invisible campaign last couple of weeks? Would have been interesting to get a mail from the Progs Coffee or PDR as well I suppose.

Anyway, if you happen to be on witt for the elections, go vote on TMT20 in the chatroom as well!
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Bråneu Excelsio, UrN on June 30, 2024, 05:49:44 PM
Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on June 30, 2024, 02:41:58 PMI haven't paid much attention this election to be honest, but is just me or have all parties other than FreeDems and OpenSociety run a pretty invisible campaign last couple of weeks? Would have been interesting to get a mail from the Progs Coffee or PDR as well I suppose.

Anyway, if you happen to be on witt for the elections, go vote on TMT20 in the chatroom as well!

I've sent one but haven't heard back from it and I haven't received one from any party ever even if my e-mail is up there. Maybe I wasn't their target? Idk
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on June 30, 2024, 06:19:06 PM
Quote from: Bråneu Excelsio on June 30, 2024, 05:49:44 PMI've sent one but haven't heard back from it and I haven't received one from any party ever even if my e-mail is up there. Maybe I wasn't their target? Idk

Did you? I didn't get your campaign email
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on June 30, 2024, 06:19:59 PM
Quote from: Zilect Uómbat Firă on June 27, 2024, 06:55:31 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 27, 2024, 05:25:45 PMThe nacho-shaped province and the one with vowels, Florencia and Maritiimi-Maxhestic, are unfortunately tied with the lowest turnout of just 6 voters.

Is turnout normally this low?

With just over 24 hours till polls close turnout is 88, just short of last time's 95
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 30, 2024, 06:31:34 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 30, 2024, 06:19:06 PM
Quote from: Bråneu Excelsio on June 30, 2024, 05:49:44 PMI've sent one but haven't heard back from it and I haven't received one from any party ever even if my e-mail is up there. Maybe I wasn't their target? Idk

Did you? I didn't get your campaign email

I didn't get it either if it was sent to the Chancery for distribution.
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on June 30, 2024, 07:15:51 PM
Wouldn't be surprised if, given the SoS's current personal difficulties, he missed something
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: King Txec on June 30, 2024, 07:21:41 PM
Quote from: Bråneu Excelsio on June 30, 2024, 05:49:44 PM
Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on June 30, 2024, 02:41:58 PMI haven't paid much attention this election to be honest, but is just me or have all parties other than FreeDems and OpenSociety run a pretty invisible campaign last couple of weeks? Would have been interesting to get a mail from the Progs Coffee or PDR as well I suppose.

Anyway, if you happen to be on witt for the elections, go vote on TMT20 in the chatroom as well!

I've sent one but haven't heard back from it and I haven't received one from any party ever even if my e-mail is up there. Maybe I wasn't their target? Idk

I have seen only campaign emails from FreeDems and OPEN. Braneu asked me in a PM about the email list for party leaders, and he indicated he had found the list.

QuoteOk I got it by looking it up in the database "List of party voters for Party Leaders".

No email was sent to me with one for me to send out.
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: King Txec on June 30, 2024, 07:22:28 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 30, 2024, 07:15:51 PMWouldn't be surprised if, given the SoS's current personal difficulties, he missed something

I did not miss anything. If an email was sent it was sent to the wrong email address.
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on July 01, 2024, 07:38:06 PM
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Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on July 01, 2024, 09:31:08 PM
Interesting point: the 32.5% vote for new parties is the second-largest in the post-KR1 era (previous record 32.8%, 38th Cosa (https://wiki.talossa.com/38th_Cosa))
Title: Re: Talossan party politics discussion
Post by: Sir Ian Plätschisch on July 02, 2024, 05:41:04 AM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on July 01, 2024, 09:31:08 PMInteresting point: the 32.5% vote for new parties is the second-largest in the post-KR1 era (previous record 32.8%, 38th Cosa (https://wiki.talossa.com/38th_Cosa))
The LCC got 36.5% in the 55th Cosa.