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Quote from: Gay Kelly via email, 5 minutes agoGood morning,

I write with great sadness to let you know that my husband, Ian Kelly died on the 22nd June.  I'm not sure if you knew him well, but your name is with a book  found on his desk.  He was very frail, but managed to be a cheerful positive chap until the end of April when his health deteriorated and he lost his sparkle.  His family are all devastated, but are comforted by his not suffering pain or distress at the end.

At times like these there are people known to the deceased but not to those closest to them...I just thought you'd want to know that he will no longer be in touch, but if you feel you'd like to contact me about anything at all, I would be happy to reply.

Best regards,

Gay Kelly

Ián Tamorán PRESINT!

Quote from: Ián Tamorán S.H. on January 11, 2024, 06:23:18 AMWhen I die I want to still be a Talossan.  So clearly I must interact sufficiently with the realm – still be in contact with it.

But the words "When I die I still want to be a Talossan" have another, deeper, meaning.  When I have died I still want to be a Talossan, even though I cannot then interact with it.  Outside of Talossa I am also a citizen of Ireland.  When I die I shall be a "deceased citizen of Ireland" – my Irishness is not taken away from me at my death, I will still be Irish.  Many, many realms on Earth are like that – death does not change your nationality.  Why cannot Talossa be like that too?

Yes – I have heard various off the cuff statements about our already having degrees of citizenship – so get on with it Ian, and stop complaining.  What already exists cannot be changed.  So there.

But wait – we already honour our citizens with marks of status, and labels of quality of achievement in this or that.  Why not also bestow upon a deceased citizen a formal title like "LDT" (Loyal Deceased Talossan) or "HIT" (Honoured In Talossa) – it's up to someone who knows our language in detail to produce the right term, the right letters.  And someone who is "HIT" (or whatever we choose) will no longer be obligated to respond to a census or vote at an election – that will not (cannot!) be counted against him or her.

Come on, lads and lasses – let's discuss this and create legislation to implement it.

Nolite Timere Messorem (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=2695.msg22584#msg22584)

I am very saddened by this news. He was an inspiration to me. Both Chelli and I send our condolences to his family.

Rest in peace, Ián.
I am sharing this video of him reading his poem, Avancamantisch, as Ián was most recent winner of the El Pretz Per Tomas poetry prize. What a wonderful voice of artful wisdom.

I will certainly support any effort to establish a new citizenship type honoring deceased Talossans.

I just noticed the date of death. Cxhn. Tamorán voted in the Cosă election in literally the last week of his life. That's Talossan patriotism. Zog salute.

Ian was a great Talossan, and although it was not frequent, I always enjoyed interacting with him. He will be missed.

I'd be more than happy to sign my name to legislation implementing honours for deceased Talossans, starting first with Ian.

I suggest that the status for Talossans who have moved on to the next place should be something like Presint Eternalmint (Present Eternally), with reference not only how we vote when we are not participating but still want to be counted, but to this custom:

QuotePresente means present in Spanish. (https://www.edpien.com/presente) To refer to a deceased person as presente means that they are still a part of the living, and will remain in their hearts and minds of those who mourn them.

This is sad news indeed.

Go n-éirí an bóthar leat
Go raibh an ghaoth go brách ag do chúl
Go lonraí an ghrian go te ar d'aghaidh
Go dtite an bháisteach go mín ar do pháirceanna
Agus go mbuailimid le chéile arís,
Go gcoinní Dia i mbos A láimhe thú.

The basic solution should be: if you stop voting in elections and responding to censuses, you are no longer "deemed to renounce" but you go on an Inactive Citizens list. And a subset of that list whose deaths are confirmed will be "els Presints Eternalmint". We might start creating a list like that: Xhorxh Asmour, John Eiffler, even King Robert II Dobberpuhl.

Rest in Peace Ián. Talossa will greatly miss its Proud Philosopher.

This is really sad news, He was a great person and Talossan and is a terrible loss. rest in peace and thoughts and prayers to his family

He was a great and proud Talossan, and will be missed. Thank you for sharing, Miestra.

Rest in peace. I kept thinking about his approach to the eternal citizenship. I know we will get there. Thank you for sharing.

It seems fitting, in a bittersweet sort of way, that the person who proposed a separate category for deceased Talossans could be one of the first so categorized.

Respoçetz cümbién, S:reu Tamorán, and all the best to your family.

Composing for Organ, writing science fiction, maths, poetry, physics, it, french.. So many different skills and passions, Iàn was to me the perfect example of a real Humanist. I wish i'd known him more.
(On  idkk.com just a glimpse of his wide palette of works)

I think I should share this extract from a message 9  months ago

Quote(....)  I have had, so far, a really interesting and enjoyable life, and it was easy for me to take advantage of the many opportunities I was given. It is too easy to be "only" scientific, or "only" artistic, or "only" philosophical - but I wanted all that (and more!).

When I was a child I thought I would be able to learn everything about everything... as I grew older I realised that was impossible... but what a world we live in! It is beautiful and interesting and magic and fascinating. No matter what part of the world or what part of the universe you look at, there is always something marvellous to experience.

(..).

Very sad news. I was fortunate to have a one-on-one conversation as we were waiting for others to join in one of those Talossan video chats. A great human, always kind and ready to share a new perspective on things.

Will make sure to have this featured on my channel.

Very depressing news. I was very fond of Ián.

I join with all of you in mourning the loss of our friend Ian Tamoran.  I'll never forget the evening I took the train out to Woking to meet him for dinner at a very nice French restaurant -- good food and *great* conversation well into the night.  His was a unique voice in Talossa, combining elegance, quirkiness (no, Ian, light does not have mass), intelligence, and wit.  I have been, and am, proud to call him friend, and countryman.  We'll miss him, until the Day dawns and the shadows flee away.

John Regeu

He was a kind, friendly, intelligent man, whom I am pleased to have known, and await knowing better hereafter.

"Oh, forever may
He lie lightly, at last, on the last, crossed
Hill, under the grass, in love, and there grow

Young among the long flocks, and never lie lost
Or still all the numberless days of his death"
-Thomas

Is his birth date known? I want to make a video commemorating him, though I never knew him closely. I just want to do it out of respect.

Quote from: Barclamïu da Miéletz on July 12, 2024, 04:17:11 PMIs his birth date known? I want to make a video commemorating him, though I never knew him closely. I just want to do it out of respect.

22nd April 1945 (per https://benkellyarts.com/blog/?page_id=1517)

Quote from: owenedwards on July 12, 2024, 04:19:47 PM

Quote from: Barclamïu da Miéletz on July 12, 2024, 04:17:11 PMIs his birth date known? I want to make a video commemorating him, though I never knew him closely. I just want to do it out of respect.

22nd April 1945 (per https://benkellyarts.com/blog/?page_id=1517)

Thanks, helps a lot.

It has to be the most beautiful quote I have ever seen.

Quote from: Barclamïu da Miéletz on July 11, 2024, 02:30:44 PMWill make sure to have this featured on my channel.

Quote from: Barclamïu da Miéletz on July 12, 2024, 04:38:45 PM

And so I did.

Consideréu vaes ustreciăs cün Ián las penetrontăs da va temp com'iens citaxhién da Talossa. Estev'iens plaschair ausolü à lo cognhéçar, es éu sümpaþiçéu cün sieu famiglhă.

I'm sorry I have been away from Wittenberg so much that I completely have missed this very sad piece of news. He might have been the best one of us all.

Quote from: anglatzara on October 10, 2024, 09:54:01 AMI'm sorry I have been away from Wittenberg so much that I completely have missed this very sad piece of news. He might have been the best one of us all.

Welcome back Ian! Nice to see you!