The Chancery hereby appoints Ian Plätschisch as Deputy Secretary of State. His duties shall be to act as the Deputy Administrator of Wittenberg.
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Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on October 20, 2024, 03:08:36 PMThe Chancery hereby appoints Ian Plätschisch as Deputy Secretary of State. His duties shall be to act as the Deputy Administrator of Wittenberg.
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We now have three separate members of the FreeDems as appointees of the Chancery.
Do the FreeDems believe that only members of their party are suitable for Chancery service?
In about 24 hours or so, I will likely no longer be the SoS nor a FreeDem. My plan at the moment is to ensure that there are people in place to do the various tasks until a new SoS is appointed.
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on October 20, 2024, 03:16:28 PMIn about 24 hours or so, I will likely no longer be the SoS nor a FreeDem. My plan at the moment is to ensure that there are people in place to do the various tasks until a new SoS is appointed.
So two soon but three presently. Has there been consideration of ANY people outside of the FreeDems to serve as deputies or other appointees?
That will be up to my successor.
Actually, only Ian will be a FreeDem since I believe Sir Luc is also leaving the party upon appointment.
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on October 20, 2024, 03:19:38 PMActually, only Ian will be a FreeDem since I believe Sir Luc is also leaving the party upon appointment.
Again all three of you are presently closely associated with the FreeDems. Has there been ANY consideration of people who are not FreeDems to serve the Chancery, Txec?
Hmmm. The old complaint was "this person is disqualified because they're leading a political party". Then it became: "this person is a member of a political party". Then: "this person is closely associated with a political party". We can see now that the famous stand on principle was in reality a stand against a certain individual, then a certain group of individuals. As suspected.
As Seneschal I have no rightful authority or influence over the Chancery's internal business. Nevertheless, my opinion is that the Chancery should appoint Witt admins/mods, from any party or none, who are prepared to enforce Wittiquette Rule 8 with a blowtorch, regardless of cajoling or threats. Bad behaviour deserves sanction. I get the feeling that new Deputy SoS Plätschisch fits that bill.
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on October 20, 2024, 03:31:54 PMHmmm. The old complaint was "this person is disqualified because they're leading a political party". Then it became: "this person is a member of a political party". Then: "this person is closely associated with a political party". We can see now that the famous stand on principle was in reality a stand against a certain individual, then a certain group of individuals. As suspected.
As Seneschal I have no rightful authority or influence over the Chancery's internal business. Nevertheless, my opinion is that the Chancery should appoint Witt admins/mods, from any party or none, who are prepared to enforce Wittiquette Rule 8 with a blowtorch, regardless of cajoling or threats. Bad behaviour deserves sanction. I get the feeling that new Deputy SoS Plätschisch fits that bill.
Three appointments now from one political party in an office that prides its impartiality does smell, Miestra. No matter how we try to misdirect. Was there any consideration of non-FreeDems for these appointments?
You don't ask me that question, you ask the SoS that question, because I take the independence of the Chancery seriously
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on October 20, 2024, 03:42:16 PMYou don't ask me that question, you ask the SoS that question, because I take the independence of the Chancery seriously
Yes, the leader of the party once led by the current SoS while he served as such simultaneously, takes the independence of the Chancery seriously. That same party now has THREE of its members serving as the SoS and deputies for the SoS. Give me a break, Miestra.
I take exception to the idea that my Government would interfere in any way with the Chancery's internal decision-making processes.
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on October 20, 2024, 03:49:29 PMI take exception to the idea that my Government would interfere in any way with the Chancery's internal decision-making processes.
If only we could go back in time to November 2022 and have a stern talking to...(checks notes) Party President and Secretary of State Txec dal Nordselva.
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 20, 2024, 03:50:23 PMQuote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on October 20, 2024, 03:49:29 PMI take exception to the idea that my Government would interfere in any way with the Chancery's internal decision-making processes.
If only we could go back in time to November 2022 and have a stern talking to...(checks notes) Party President and Secretary of State Txec dal Nordselva.
Enough Brenier. Your point has been made. I've apologized. Enough.
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on October 20, 2024, 03:52:13 PMQuote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 20, 2024, 03:50:23 PMQuote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on October 20, 2024, 03:49:29 PMI take exception to the idea that my Government would interfere in any way with the Chancery's internal decision-making processes.
If only we could go back in time to November 2022 and have a stern talking to...(checks notes) Party President and Secretary of State Txec dal Nordselva.
Enough Brenier. Your point has been made. I've apologized. Enough.
You have never apologized, Txec. And you have not created policy to address the precedent (through law or internal policy) which is what I have been trying to do for many months now.
I have asked you directly to fix the problem and you have refused. I am now asking your successor to do that.
I do believe I've said it was a mistake, and I also remember saying I would not bind a future SoS by a policy. Nevertheless, enough is enough. The point is made. I've worked tirelessly for four years to be a good SoS, and I am proud of my work.
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on October 20, 2024, 03:56:21 PMI do believe I've said it was a mistake, and I also remember saying I would not bind a future SoS by a policy. Nevertheless, enough is enough. The point is made. I've worked tirelessly for four years to be a good SoS, and I am proud of my work.
The point is not made until the precedent is addressed, Txec. Enough will be enough when the issue is addressed. Please address the issue if you want this to be settled.
I think I am respectfully asking you to fix a mistake you now admit making. And you have the ability to fix it but are, for some odd reason, resisting doing so. Surely, one can understand why I am confused by that refusal, especially, since you admit it was a mistake.
You seem to think any internal policy I make would be binding on a successor. I stated I would never be a party leader again in the past. That is a personal choice. Any successor could just ignore or cancel any internal policies. That is why I've never made any policy. If you'll notice, I even reconfirmed the rules of Wittiquette when I first became SoS to show that the current occupant of the Chancery was willing for those rules to be maintained. I could just as easily have changed them or completely reversed them, because they are a policy, not a law.
From my point of view, that is a reasonable position to take.
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on October 20, 2024, 04:10:29 PMYou seem to think any internal policy I make would be binding on a successor. I stated I would never be a party leader again in the past. That is a personal choice. Any successor could just ignore or cancel any internal policies. That is why I've never made any policy. If you'll notice, I even reconfirmed the rules of Wittiquette when I first became SoS to show that the current occupant of the Chancery was willing for those rules to be maintained. I could just as easily have changed them or completely reversed them, because they are a policy, not a law.
From my point of view, that is a reasonable position to take.
Txec, it is an abnegation of your responsibility in my opinion. You are the custodian of an enduring powerful position and have acknowledged a mistake that in my opinion damaged the impartiality of that position. As the maker of that mistake (you haven't even mentioned what made this a mistake, Txec) it is your responsibility to fix it. You have done nothing to fix it as an apology or commitment not to do it again does nothing substantial to address the precedent you created. Laws have been proposed and rejected largely by FreeDems (the party of which you are a member). Requests for policy have been made and again, met silence, until moments before you are leaving office. Moments before leaving office you appointed two party co-members as deputies with one proposing sanction on the proponent of efforts to address your mistake.
Do you really think that this would not cause distrust?
You are free to see things as you wish Brenier. Plus, for the record, I appointed Sir Luc well over a month ago when the King named me as his heir. Anyway, I'm done for now. I plan on spending the rest of my weekend relaxing before work in the morning. Have a good rest of your day Brenier.
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 20, 2024, 04:16:55 PMyou appointed two party co-members as deputies with one proposing sanction on the proponent of efforts to address your mistake
Great that we've ended up in a US politics position, where being the head of an opposition party means you feel entitled to immunity
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on October 20, 2024, 04:23:07 PMYou are free to see things as you wish Brenier. Plus, for the record, I appointed Sir Luc well over a month ago when the King named me as his heir. Anyway, I'm done for now. I plan on spending the rest of my weekend relaxing before work in the morning. Have a good rest of your day Brenier.
The obviousness of this is so exhausting and frustrating. I supported you as king because I know you are honorable but this dismissive defensiveness over something you admit was wrong but refuse to do anything about (even after many months of requests) is sad. Txec, I wish you a good day too but I wish you would stop disappointing me on this.