WHEREAS the National Database has now been successfully replaced, as shown by the near-flawless running of the 61st Cosa election;
and WHEREAS when the reason for a law ceases, so should the law itself;BE IT ENACTED by the King, Senäts and Cosa of Talossa in Ziu assembled that El Lexhatx C.1.2.1 and C.1.2.1.1, which currently read:
Quote1.2.1. One member of the Chancery shall be the Royal Data Clerk, heading the Office of Dynamic Data Management. The function of the Office of Dynamic Data Management is to manage all computer records owned by the Kingdom of Talossa for its official functions and delegated to its care in order to help other Royal Households, Ministries or any other organization of the Kingdom which needs data management. The Royal Data Clerk may be the same person as the Secretary of State. The Royal Data Clerk shall be considered an Officer of the Royal Household.
1.2.1.1. Once the first Royal Data Clerk accepts his position, and once two members of the Cort pü Inalt have confirmed that they are in receipt of full and accessible backups of the database system currently hosted on talossa.ca, this database shall be considered to be the property of the Office of Dynamic Data Management and thus, the property of the Kingdom of Talossa.
are hereby
DELETED.
I will (on time for the First Clark) come up with a suggestion for replacing 1.2.1. and 1.2.1.1., rather than full repeal, just to put in a few lines of text that explicitly specify that the Database exists, is a national property under the care of the Chancery and is recognised in law for the purpose of holding elections, censuses and Clarks. The office and position can go, though.
Work in progress until I figure out how to put in provisions about how to manage the database itself (I was thinking a 1.2.1.1. enumerating recommendations about open sourcing, multiple access, hosting on national webpresence, etc. - but this would essentially be a sense of the Ziu) - Done
BE IT ENACTED by the King, Senäts and Cosa of Talossa in Ziu assembled that El Lexhatx C.1.2.1 and C.1.2.1.1, which currently read:
Quote1.2.1. One member of the Chancery shall be the Royal Data Clerk, heading the Office of Dynamic Data Management. The function of the Office of Dynamic Data Management is to manage all computer records owned by the Kingdom of Talossa for its official functions and delegated to its care in order to help other Royal Households, Ministries or any other organization of the Kingdom which needs data management. The Royal Data Clerk may be the same person as the Secretary of State. The Royal Data Clerk shall be considered an Officer of the Royal Household.
1.2.1.1. Once the first Royal Data Clerk accepts his position, and once two members of the Cort pü Inalt have confirmed that they are in receipt of full and accessible backups of the database system currently hosted on talossa.ca, this database shall be considered to be the property of the Office of Dynamic Data Management and thus, the property of the Kingdom of Talossa.
are hereby repealed and replaced by the following:
Quote1.2.1. The Chancery may avail itself of a database system comprising a website and database backend, in order to facilitate the storage of information and records, the management of citizenship rolls, the operations of the Ziu, the holding of elections and censuses, and any other function which is delegated to or administered by the Chancery.
FURTHERMORE, it is the Sense of the Ziu:
- that such a database system should be hosted on national property;
- that if self developed, its source code should be made open as soon as practical, roughly coinciding with a state of "stable release";
- that if not self developed, the chosen software preferably be free and open source;
- that the underlying data should be appropriately backed up;
- that the Chancery should inform the citizenry whenever appropriate, regarding changes in features, hosting, policies and regulations;
- that regardless of the actual officials in charge of technical maintenance and/or development, the Secretary of State should always have full access to all parts of the database;
- that the Chancery should provide for redundant superuser access, and therefore, that more than one user should be able to manage all subsystems directly from the web interface;
- that any and all balloting systems should be engineered so to make impossible to reveal a voter's choices, if chosen to be secret, even by electoral administrators, and impractical for people with access to the raw database data;
- that any and all balloting systems should provide "receipt" tools for the verification of any voter's choices by the voter themselves.
Excellent.
Is this ready to go to the CRL?
Ok I'm done with my edits, please feel free to copypaste my suggested provisions into your bill (if so, it should probably be renamed to "...Act and Sense of the Ziu" because of the recommendations at the end), and then to add me as cosponsor.
WHEREAS the National Database has now been successfully replaced, as shown by the near-flawless running of the 61st Cosa election;
and WHEREAS when the reason for a law ceases, so should the law itself;BE IT ENACTED by the King, Senäts and Cosa of Talossa in Ziu assembled that El Lexhatx C.1.2.1 and C.1.2.1.1, which currently read:
Quote1.2.1. One member of the Chancery shall be the Royal Data Clerk, heading the Office of Dynamic Data Management. The function of the Office of Dynamic Data Management is to manage all computer records owned by the Kingdom of Talossa for its official functions and delegated to its care in order to help other Royal Households, Ministries or any other organization of the Kingdom which needs data management. The Royal Data Clerk may be the same person as the Secretary of State. The Royal Data Clerk shall be considered an Officer of the Royal Household.
1.2.1.1. Once the first Royal Data Clerk accepts his position, and once two members of the Cort pü Inalt have confirmed that they are in receipt of full and accessible backups of the database system currently hosted on talossa.ca, this database shall be considered to be the property of the Office of Dynamic Data Management and thus, the property of the Kingdom of Talossa.
are hereby repealed and replaced by the following:
Quote1.2.1. The Chancery may avail itself of a database system comprising a website and database backend, in order to facilitate the storage of information and records, the management of citizenship rolls, the operations of the Ziu, the holding of elections and censuses, and any other function which is delegated to or administered by the Chancery.
FURTHERMORE, it is the Sense of the Ziu:
- that such a database system should be hosted on national property;
- that if self developed, its source code should be made open as soon as practical, roughly coinciding with a state of "stable release";
- that if not self developed, the chosen software preferably be free and open source;
- that the underlying data should be appropriately backed up;
- that the Chancery should inform the citizenry whenever appropriate, regarding changes in features, hosting, policies and regulations;
- that regardless of the actual officials in charge of technical maintenance and/or development, the Secretary of State should always have full access to all parts of the database;
- that the Chancery should provide for redundant superuser access, and therefore, that more than one user should be able to manage all subsystems directly from the web interface;
- that any and all balloting systems should be engineered so to make impossible to reveal a voter's choices even to administrators, if chosen to be secret, except for investigating on potential irregularities as provided by law or directed by the Judiciary;
- that any and all balloting systems should provide "receipt" tools for the verification of any voter's choices by the voter themselves.
@Sir Lüc please to be sending the above to the CRL
So done.
In my capacity as a CRL member, no objections.
I think in the future it may be nice to streamline the many occurrences of "database" within our statutory text to make it clear that all are encompassed by the Chancery going forward.
And I don't think the CRL can comment on the Sense of the Ziu language, but I wonder if the sense that electoral ballots cast remain completely secret even from administrators will be understood to work in conjunction with existing language that could conceivably provide those cast ballots to the EC in an unlikely event they are needed.
Quote from: Munditenens Tresplet on April 29, 2025, 04:18:53 PMAnd I don't think the CRL cannot comment on the Sense of the Ziu language, but I wonder if the sense that electoral ballots cast remain completely secret even from administrators will be understood to work in conjunction with existing language that could conceivably provide those cast ballots to the EC in an unlikely event they are needed.
That is a good point. For the record, currently, there is no way to completely reveal a secret ballot from the frontend; you can either see just the metadata or just the anonymised ballot content, and those are presented separately so that it's impossible to link one and the other.
I suggest to
@Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC she could replace that provision with something like:
"that any and all balloting systems should be engineered so to make impossible to reveal a voter's choices even to administrators, if chosen to be secret, except for investigating on potential irregularities as provided by law or directed by the Judiciary"
Done
A sense of the Ziu is for non-binding proclamation (Lexhatx H 2.1.2.1)
Shouldn't we replace the C 1.2.1 with
Quotethis database system and all managed data shall be considered to be the property of the Kingdom of Talossa.
to keep this at least as part of the Law ?
Quote from: þerxh Sant-Enogat on May 01, 2025, 10:35:36 AMA sense of the Ziu is for non-binding proclamation (Lexhatx H 2.1.2.1)
Shouldn't we replace the C 1.2.1 with
Quotethis database system and all managed data shall be considered to be the property of the Kingdom of Talossa.
to keep this at least as part of the Law ?
Lüc, your thoughts?