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Title: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Sir Lüc on April 13, 2025, 03:24:32 PM
With the election certified, it's my pleasure to open seat allocations for the 61st Cosă.

The seats to be allocated are:

¡Avant!: 93 seats ( @Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC , @Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be , @Bråneu Excelsio, UrN )
Progressive Alliance: 63 seats ( @þerxh Sant-Enogat )
Green Party: 27 seats ( @Breneir Tzaracomprada )

As a reminder, the maximum number of seats that can be held by a single MC is 22. Offlist MCs can hold no more than 1/3 of a party's seats collectively, and each can hold at most as many seats as were awarded to a list candidate.

The Independent Conservative did not present a party list and as such, their 17 seats are automatically allocated to @Munditenens Tresplet.
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on April 13, 2025, 03:30:42 PM
Hello, yes. The seat allocations for ¡Avant! are as follows:

@Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC 20 seats
@Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be 20 seats
@Bråneu Excelsio, UrN 20 seats
@Dr. Pôl dal Nordselvă 9 seats
@Barclamïu da Miéletz 9 seats
@Iac Éovard Valadeir 9 seats
@mpf 6 seats

Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 13, 2025, 03:52:20 PM
Seat allocations for the Green Party below:

@Breneir Tzaracomprada 22 seats
@Muhammed Yasir 5 seats
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Sir Lüc on April 13, 2025, 03:59:30 PM
Both allocations, as well as the six Senators who are currently seated, are now acknowledged and reflected on the Database: https://database.talossa.com/ziu/terms/61/clarks/1 (https://database.talossa.com/ziu/terms/61/clarks/1)
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: þerxh Sant-Enogat on April 13, 2025, 05:05:45 PM
Seats allocation for the Progressive Alliance
@Baron Alexandreu Davinescu 21 seats
@xpb 21 seats
@Tric'hard Lenxheir 21 seats
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Sir Lüc on April 14, 2025, 03:03:04 AM
Also acknowledged. I believe we have a full roster. Welcome all and congratulations!
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Munditenens Tresplet on April 30, 2025, 05:59:57 PM
I am pleased to publicly declare my representation of the Péngöpäts constituency per Lex.H.9.
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Sir Lüc on August 02, 2025, 08:16:13 AM
I forgot to ask - do @Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC and @Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be want me to alter the designation of ex-FreeDem/PdR members to URL, or will they all collectively sit as Avant until dissolution?
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on August 02, 2025, 04:13:53 PM
Quote from: Sir Lüc on August 02, 2025, 08:16:13 AMI forgot to ask - do @Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC and @Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be want me to alter the designation of ex-FreeDem/PdR members to URL, or will they all collectively sit as Avant until dissolution?

You should probably ask @Bråneu Excelsio, UrN  as the third leader of the coalition, but let me ask this. If we switch our designation to URL, does that mean we can offer comments on referenda etc. as URL?
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Sir Lüc on August 03, 2025, 09:34:13 AM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on August 02, 2025, 04:13:53 PMYou should probably ask @Bråneu Excelsio, UrN  as the third leader of the coalition, but let me ask this. If we switch our designation to URL, does that mean we can offer comments on referenda etc. as URL?

That's a good question I hadn't thought about. I would be inclined to say no, because technically Talossan law only recognises those parties registered on the ballot, so it would be a stretch to assume the language of B.2.2 applied to an unregistered party. (Yes, I do think that the legislation surrounding political parties could use some reworking.)
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on August 03, 2025, 01:58:37 PM
Quote from: Sir Lüc on August 03, 2025, 09:34:13 AMThat's a good question I hadn't thought about. I would be inclined to say no, because technically Talossan law only recognises those parties registered on the ballot, so it would be a stretch to assume the language of B.2.2 applied to an unregistered party. (Yes, I do think that the legislation surrounding political parties could use some reworking.)

If that's the case, I don't see any value in changing our designation during this Cosa; but I'll defer to Mic'haglh if he disagrees.
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Mic’haglh Autófil, O.Be on August 03, 2025, 02:22:40 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on August 03, 2025, 01:58:37 PMIf that's the case, I don't see any value in changing our designation during this Cosa; but I'll defer to Mic'haglh if he disagrees.

No disagreement from me. "Viensiçent-Noi!"
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Sir Lüc on September 22, 2025, 03:56:33 AM
A vacancy in a party's Cosă seats having occurred as a result of the provisions of OrgLaw IV.5, I am obliged, pursuant to OrgLaw IV.3, to inform of the same @King Txec and the three joint party leaders @Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC @Bråneu Excelsio, UrN @Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be , so that a replacement may be selected for Avant's 9 vacant seats.

The selection may be made at any time between now and the start of the Sixth and final Clark.
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Sir Lüc on September 23, 2025, 09:45:54 AM
I additionally forgot there's also the matter of @Tric'hard Lenxheir 's resignation as an MC - Tric'hard, if you truly wish to resign, then @þerxh Sant-Enogat will similarly have to select a replacement.
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on September 23, 2025, 10:08:13 AM
I have already expressed my own personal wish as deputy leader that he would reconsider. I think he sells himself short way too frequently, and that we all deserve grace if we say something in a clumsy fashion every now and then.
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: King Txec on September 23, 2025, 10:26:17 AM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on September 23, 2025, 10:08:13 AMI have already expressed my own personal wish as deputy leader that he would reconsider. I think he sells himself short way too frequently, and that we all deserve grace if we say something in a clumsy fashion every now and then.

I agree with you Baron. Grace should always try to be extended, even if the words or actions themselves are deemed unhelpful. We shouldn't cancel people just because they say something many disagree with.

-Txec R
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on September 23, 2025, 02:31:31 PM
My colleague P. da Nordselva says he's very sorry and I've agreed to give him his 9 seats back.
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Tric’hard Lenxheir on September 23, 2025, 02:53:21 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on September 23, 2025, 10:08:13 AMI have already expressed my own personal wish as deputy leader that he would reconsider. I think he sells himself short way too frequently, and that we all deserve grace if we say something in a clumsy fashion every now and then.

For now I am remaining a citizen but I do wish to step aside from politics for awhile. I truly do not understand half of the bills I am asked to vote upon (which leads to a lot of abstaining) and I am trying to get myself away from attacks either from me directed at others or vice versa (even if they are sometimes warranted). I am not a dumb person but I am definitely not on an intellectual level with most of Talossa. So please replace me as a member of the Cosa. If you cannot find a replacement I will simply abstain on all future bills.
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on September 23, 2025, 02:59:56 PM
Well, obviously we don't want you blindly abstaining.  The whole point is that we value your perspective!
Title: Re: MCs for the 61st Cosă
Post by: Sir Lüc on September 24, 2025, 10:13:41 AM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on September 23, 2025, 02:31:31 PMMy colleague P. da Nordselva says he's very sorry and I've agreed to give him his 9 seats back.

Noted and duly re-added to the Cosă's roster on the Database.

Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on September 23, 2025, 02:53:21 PMSo please replace me as a member of the Cosa. If you cannot find a replacement I will simply abstain on all future bills.

I will interpret that as follows: if @þerxh Sant-Enogat gives me a replacement for Tric'hard's 21 seats before the deadline (end of September 30th TST) I will appoint that person and remove Tric'hard from the Cosă. Otherwise, Tric'hard will keep his seats for the final Clark.

I think this is reasonable, if not exceptionally watertight legally speaking, but I believe we can afford everyone a little grace here.