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WHEREAS: His Majesty EMERITUS Robert I has liberated our great nation from the iron fist of the President of the United States in 1979, and

WHEREAS: Though it started small, Talossa became one of the most prestigious micronations under his rule, and

WHEREAS: Some of his subjects grew dissatisfied with his rule due to perceived autocracy, thereby commencing a nationwide rebellion against their King, and

WHEREAS: His now ex-Majesty abdicated the Throne and renounced his title as a citizen of the once-great nation he created, and

WHEREAS: Robert I has been treated as a sideshow these past few years, and cannot be received into his country unless a member of the Ziu creates a bill, and

WHEREAS: If Talossans truly love this country, they ought to give respect to the person who made it possible to call themselves Talossans.

THEREFORE I, MAXIMOS ILIAS SCOTT MALTEZOS, SERVANT OF GOD AND HIS MAJESTY KING TXEC, DO HEREBY PETITION HIS MAJESTY THAT HE RESTORE THE CITIZENSHIP OF ROBERT I AT ONCE.

FIAT, FIAT, FIAT!

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Maximos Ilias Scott Maltezos


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I think probably a first step would be re-opening a conversation with the former king, and asking if this is something he's still interested in.  When he broached the subject a couple of years ago, people were mostly only open to his return if he was willing to take some accountability for his behavior.  But he might be ready to do that to some degree, and re-enter our community as a citizen.  He's 60 years old and still alive, so he's already defied the prophecy that said he would die at 59.  Maybe that's when he'll be ready to talk about it.

Over the years, a lot of people have accepted responsibility for their role in past events.  For example, His Grace, Duke John, made a speech about how the Kingdom should have reached out more to the Republic in the time of schism and worked to close that breach earlier, and apologizing on behalf of the country for how former King Robert treated them while they were citizens.  And Marti-Pair and Ieremiah apologized for taking control of the Talossan webspaces when founding the Republic.  The Seneschal has publicly apologized for her attitude and treatment of others prior to her election as senator.  I have apologized for my treatment of a former citizen.

Former King Robert did everything possible to try to usurp control from the people when they started to drift away from him.  When he lost, he tried to bring Talossa to the ground.  Maybe he's ready to talk about that.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on Today at 05:08:16 PMI think probably a first step would be re-opening a conversation with the former king, and asking if this is something he's still interested in.  When he broached the subject a couple of years ago, people were mostly only open to his return if he was willing to take some accountability for his behavior.  But he might be ready to do that to some degree, and re-enter our community as a citizen.  He's 60 years old and still alive, so he's already defied the prophecy that said he would die at 59.  Maybe that's when he'll be ready to talk about it.

Over the years, a lot of people have accepted responsibility for their role in past events.  For example, His Grace, Duke John, made a speech about how the Kingdom should have reached out more to the Republic in the time of schism and worked to close that breach earlier, and apologizing on behalf of the country for how former King Robert treated them while they were citizens.  And Marti-Pair and Ieremiah apologized for taking control of the Talossan webspaces when founding the Republic.  The Seneschal has publicly apologized for her attitude and treatment of others prior to her election as senator.  I have apologized for my treatment of a former citizen.

Former King Robert did everything possible to try to usurp control from the people when they started to drift away from him.  When he lost, he tried to bring Talossa to the ground.  Maybe he's ready to talk about that.

All I want to do with this is restore Robert's good name in this land. I'm not a sedevacantist in terms of the Talossan throne. I just believe that Robert deserves some respect. And repentance is always possible, so if he apologises for any wrongdoing, it'll be cloud 9 for the Kingdom.


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I think that even people who are angry with him or that he treated badly still respect him, broadly speaking. It takes a special kind of something to found a nation in your bedroom and then keep it up, adding on language and culture, all the way through to middle age.

I think you are unlikely to get the votes to restore his citizenship without some kind of process happening first. Maybe a good first step would be to pass a bill to establish a truth and reconciliation commission, and invite him to it, so that we can talk it out as a nation and as a founder. Would you be interested in something like that, or reaching out to him privately first, or something similar? I have his email address.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on Today at 05:14:28 PMI think that even people who are angry with him or that he treated badly still respect him, broadly speaking. It takes a special kind of something to found a nation in your bedroom and then keep it up, adding on language and culture, all the way through to middle age.

I think you are unlikely to get the votes to restore his citizenship without some kind of process happening first. Maybe a good first step would be to pass a bill to establish a truth and reconciliation commission, and invite him to it, so that we can talk it out as a nation and as a founder. Would you be interested in something like that, or reaching out to him privately first, or something similar? I have his email address.

Dm me, we'll talk there (either here or discord)


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Ok, sent you his email address.  I wish you luck!

Maybe he could be granted citizenship on conditions e.g. He may never serve as King or Seneschal, etc.

I don't believe that former King John granted former King Robert any titles, so there is no King Emeritus in Talossa.

Also, I don't possess the power to restore the citizenship of anyone, that would require an Act of the Ziu, of which this really isn't one the way it is written.

Finally, there are a lot of strong feelings from those who knew the former king. This bill might not achieve what you are looking to do.

-Txec R

Quote from: King Txec on Today at 07:03:59 PMI don't believe that former King John granted former King Robert any titles, so there is no King Emeritus in Talossa.

Also, I don't possess the power to restore the citizenship of anyone, that would require an Act of the Ziu, of which this really isn't one the way it is written.

Finally, there are a lot of strong feelings from those who knew the former king. This bill might not achieve what you are looking to do.

-Txec R

Well, I put the emeritus title as a form of respect. If that is terrible, I apologise, Your Majesty.




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This might just be fluff, but I'm worried that the part about "RID[DING] THIS REALM OF ALL SLANDER AGAINST [BEN]" could potentially run afoul of the First Covenant.

I also find it personally gross to try and question people's love for the country if they don't wish to rehabilitate Ben, especially considering everything that might've gone on between them and him.

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on Today at 07:22:35 PMThis might just be fluff, but I'm worried that the part about "RID[DING] THIS REALM OF ALL SLANDER AGAINST [BEN]" could potentially run afoul of the First Covenant.

I also find it personally gross to try and question people's love for the country if they don't wish to rehabilitate Ben, especially considering everything that might've gone on between them and him.

I just think it's gone too far, since he's but a distant memory. I'll update it immediately.


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The former king is a historical figure but he doesn't occupy the mind of many if any citizens. Talossans are a remarkably forward-looking people.

Also, no need to apologize to me. I wasn't offended, but I do have the right as Sovereign to advise the Cosa.

-Txec R