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Title: [IAP] Introducing l'Institüt del Agroïcismeu Political
Post by: Mic’haglh Autófil, O.Be on December 22, 2025, 09:42:07 PM
Mic'haglh Autofil and Sir Marcel Tafial are proud to announce l'Institüt del Agroïcismeu Political (the Institute for Political Nerdery). What we want to do here is basically "nerd out" about a subject we enjoy -- the various ways to analyze elections, look at different systems of voting, etc. More serious atmospheres might call this psephology (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psephology), but we're pretty sure the Talossan name is actually easier to pronounce!

To start us off, I wanted to talk about a relatively basic measurement: something called the Gallagher index (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallagher_index). The Gallagher Index is a measurement of how disproportionate an election's results are: the greater the difference between parties' share of the vote and their share of seats, the higher the index will be.

How do you calculate it? It's pretty simple, really:

Title: Re: [IAP] Introducing l'Institüt del Agroïcismeu Political
Post by: Mic’haglh Autófil, O.Be on December 22, 2025, 09:42:26 PM
As an example, let's look at the results from our most recent election:


Party% Vote    Seats    % Seats    Diff.    Sq. Diff.
PA43.628743.500.120.01440
URL32.986633.00-0.020.00040
Green13.832814.00-0.170.02890
IDT7.45157.50-0.050.00250
IG/A-S    2.1322.000.130.01690
TOTAL0.06310
TOTAL/20.03155
GI0.17762

That's pretty low! For reference, the lowest one we can find for macronations is Guyana, which as of 2020 had a Gallagher Index of 0.52.
Title: Re: [IAP] Introducing l'Institüt del Agroïcismeu Political
Post by: Mic’haglh Autófil, O.Be on December 22, 2025, 09:43:51 PM
However, we've seen people discussing changing the size of the Cosa recently, so it's not a bad idea to look at how that could affect things. For example, if the Cosa had 20 seats as recently proposed:

Party% Vote    Seats    % Seats    Diff.    Sq. Diff.
PA43.62945.00-1.381.90440
URL32.98735.00-2.024.08040
Green13.83315.00-1.171.36890
IDT7.4515.002.456.00250
IG/A-S    2.1300.002.134.53690
TOTAL17.89310
TOTAL/28.94655
GI2.99108

2.99 is still very low -- that would put Talossa between New Zealand (2.63) and Austria (3.21). Using the same method, a 40-seat Cosa, while lacking historical precedent, would have an index of 1.22. All of these would be perfectly acceptable numbers with respect to proportionality! Any of them are in line with some of the nations considered to have extremely healthy democracies. (For reference, nations like the US, UK, Canada, etc are regularly above 5 or even 10, with the UK's 2024 election delivering a Gallagher Index of 23.73!)
Title: Re: [IAP] Introducing l'Institüt del Agroïcismeu Political
Post by: Mic’haglh Autófil, O.Be on December 22, 2025, 09:45:17 PM
It's worth looking at the Senate as well, just for curiosity, using the numbers from the four Senate races in the most recent election:

Party% Vote (1st Rd.)Seats    % Seats    Diff.    Sq. Diff.
PA40.43375.00-34.571195.08490
URL36.17125.0011.17124.76890
Green4.2600.004.2618.14760
Ind.19.1500.0019.15366.72250
TOTAL1704.72390
TOTAL/2852.36195
GI29.19524

As we can see, the Senate is significantly more disproportionate than even a 20-seat Cosa. This calls into question the motives and reasoning of those who may support keeping the Senate as-is, while opposing decreasing the size of the Cosa as "less representative".
Title: Re: [IAP] Introducing l'Institüt del Agroïcismeu Political
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on December 22, 2025, 09:57:09 PM
Tbf, the point of the Senäts in the minds of its defenders is precisely to be countermajoritarian. It is supposed to *not* represent the majority, because "stopping the majority doing things" is seen as a benefit in itself.
Title: Re: [IAP] Introducing l'Institüt del Agroïcismeu Political
Post by: owenedwards on December 23, 2025, 07:00:26 AM
Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be on Yesterday at 09:45:17 PMIt's worth looking at the Senate as well, just for curiosity, using the numbers from the four Senate races in the most recent election:

Party% Vote (1st Rd.)Seats    % Seats    Diff.    Sq. Diff.
PA40.43375.00-34.571195.08490
URL36.17125.0011.17124.76890
Green4.2600.004.2618.14760
Ind.19.1500.0019.15366.72250
TOTAL1704.72390
TOTAL/2852.36195
GI29.19524

As we can see, the Senate is significantly more disproportionate than even a 20-seat Cosa. This calls into question the motives and reasoning of those who may support keeping the Senate as-is, while opposing decreasing the size of the Cosa as "less representative".

I don't actually have any views on the size of the Cosa, but this insinuation doesn't follow. One could desire one house to be popularly representative and another wholly unrepresentative, or representative of a different set of bodies; therefore, one would object to the reduction in proportionality in the popular house, even as one objected to an increase in proportionality in the other house. In fact, this was the mainstream Anglophone theory into the late 20th century, pretty much!