Azul! As Seneschal, I have relaunched once more the Prime Minister's Patriotic Award to recognize those who recruit others to Talossa. I'd like to make it a physical award, if possible. Accordingly, I'd like the Coletx's advice as to the best way to do that.
Right now, it's implied it's a medal. However, I don't know how realistic that might be. I could 3-D print something and then cover it in a metallic resin, but I don't want to make this into something that only I personally would be able to award! We also need a place for beads to go. So overall, I was thinking something more like a ribbon? It needs to be relatively cheap to produce.
Any advice or thoughts?
-SVA
Some ideas that immediately come to mind:
In the Cub/Boy Scouts we had pocket hangers with strands where beads could be added. Perhaps something like this:
(https://di2ponv0v5otw.cloudfront.net/posts/2024/10/29/67217928f62533456a5382c4/m_wp_67217958693ff7e10eb45695.webp)
Explorer Scouts also have a braided ribbon sort of thing that pins are added to:
(https://retailobjects.scoutshop.org/media/wysiwyg/660407_Webelos-Adventures-Colors-Lifestyle_2.jpg)
Hm. I like that basic approach. Like a plastic thing with a pin back and a hanger for beads.
So like these (https://www.amazon.com/Safety-Sticky-Strips-Badge-Crafts/dp/B0D8KSRPDX/ref=sr_1_5?dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.pENfdMumJA4oop0CflmvlJsNZwgiDFxgmwcxzHdczag1zheiuuatlxSnH7KG-giBQcKRvTwMzoKlxNf_zdRUjAdlbtszYwG1NC3Y_vLj577ZqY8cOuoSn2VffM4eEzAkLiJvCp1PofwHhmYFtIeZipoaAiiKikHTW0CHKYvG9AYQ1rHaTTd49ZQuHJ4VzSgFf9IYR7ATUFq3v5kfIrh0Ishl3xKfAJKT9vyPAsSzvWGQujkKlBy_nzo0bGKAUPlinum9NZ9o-zmRNyJVry4lyMpfbCN3gamlcYUBJ0n0Uwc.SF0itcYbpAilvUofStR-JMke6I6VpGK3IilzXawqpos&dib_tag=se&keywords=adhesive%2Bpin%2Bbacks&qid=1769191117&sr=8-5&th=1) adhesive pin backs are very cheap ($6 for 50).
And then maybe I can print out a couple of hundred of something like this:
(https://imx.talossa.com/i/52d82378-4857-446d-ac3a-0018f7a168f3.png)
With a green cord to hold the beads.
Something like that would be cheap to make (less than a dollar apiece, all in) and easy for anyone to wear. Although maybe a little adhesive clip instead of a pin would be better, since I don't know how people feel about wearing pins in nice clothes. Maybe like this (https://www.amazon.com/Adhesive-Reusable-Removable-Bulletin-Teachers/dp/B0B8CLYSZL/ref=sr_1_73?crid=BFASZPYON2FV&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.KX9MHZ7Ugxup5zKqhp2E5Q7YyA-wm7uQmTeq6Qr8Y3fGg8MbJ_cBQmylz_J89zbx2N5T17d4JCp_XjVnCYce64skXdFDC---4MpFfVqA5m-G2271A0kv8jXQNiqxMFSlBdyYsyA0r-Ci2WDdozn0IZdZ2MXgBKLMydawW3ncH6liWscLw7mWYUrMI6Mert0AyovnvugcVTDAV8sQc3QShlD15gfcmG-5ZoeS6rW79Ube5US9WctU--eg3ocvJIGJbQs7VIHT3fAv6PdQYpjzU8ZWKZelsJUvC29gu2JKEA8.pWtgqelc3SvVtk9ZtDstlhvKCbzlTGwr8sU91cOvfoM&dib_tag=se&keywords=tiny%2Badhesive%2Bclip&qid=1769191930&sprefix=tiny%2Badhesive%2Bclip%2Caps%2C114&sr=8-73&xpid=0Jo1YEdmjC1-q&th=1).
(Also I love the Scout inspiration. Scouting is very dear to my heart, since I'm an Eagle Scout and my daughters are all avid Girl Scouts.)
-SVA
I would love for us to do more stuff like this, including some form of medal for members of the Orders of Chivalry, though that can wait.
-Txec R/REH
Kinda sounds like "pimple" when you sound it out...
MM
I believe the correct translation is Pretz Pätriotic del Seneschal, so I'll probably end up using that, FYI. And the badge part will look nicer.
-SVA
I'm also an Eagle Scout, so the medal with beads immediately brought this to mind lol
If you're able to 3d print a ton of them and then upload the STL file to the wiki or some place similar, so that it could be used again if need be, might be a feasible solution that would keep the design available for posterity.
Quote from: Carlüs Éovart Vilaçafat on January 23, 2026, 02:03:30 PMI'm also an Eagle Scout, so the medal with beads immediately brought this to mind lol
If you're able to 3d print a ton of them and then upload the STL file to the wiki or some place similar, so that it could be used again if need be, might be a feasible solution that would keep the design available for posterity.
Eagles unite!
Yes, a design with a flat back and raised lettering could be printed in bulk really easily, and I could upload the STL.
I was fiddling with some possibilities and it might actually be better to make a logo or design, rather than use the initials.
-SVA
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on January 23, 2026, 02:22:54 PMEagles unite!
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Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on January 23, 2026, 02:22:54 PMYes, a design with a flat back and raised lettering could be printed in bulk really easily, and I could upload the STL.
I was fiddling with some possibilities and it might actually be better to make a logo or design, rather than use the initials.
-SVA
I agree, I think a logo or emblem would be more aesthetically pleasing than simple initials
- Green Town
Maybe something like this with a little hook or clip on the back, and then a green cord for the bead(s) hanging from the hole?
(https://imx.talossa.com/i/9a6f5830-a94a-4618-96ca-d7fd4f638a89.png)
-SVA
Actually I can probably design it with a channel for the cord in the back, and it can be popped in after the beads are put on.
-SVA
Maybe as a colloquial term we should call it the "Pengwing Award" :)
MM
Quote from: Mximo Malt on January 23, 2026, 08:00:32 PMMaybe as a colloquial term we should call it the "Pengwing Award" :)
MM
Just as a point of protocol, typically discussions within the Coletx are among members. I'm sure the Squirrel Viceroy won't object too loudly, but just keep the norms we operate under in mind S:reu Malt.
-Txec R/REH
Quote from: King Txec on January 23, 2026, 11:08:58 PMQuote from: Mximo Malt on January 23, 2026, 08:00:32 PMMaybe as a colloquial term we should call it the "Pengwing Award" :)
MM
Just as a point of protocol, typically discussions within the Coletx are among members. I'm sure the Squirrel Viceroy won't object too loudly, but just keep the norms we operate under in mind S:reu Malt.
-Txec R/REH
Apologies, Majestas. I just wanted to make a Benedict Cumberbatch joke.
MM
Quote from: Carlüs Éovart Vilaçafat on January 23, 2026, 11:50:43 AMSome ideas that immediately come to mind:
In the Cub/Boy Scouts we had pocket hangers with strands where beads could be added. Perhaps something like this:
(https://di2ponv0v5otw.cloudfront.net/posts/2024/10/29/67217928f62533456a5382c4/m_wp_67217958693ff7e10eb45695.webp)
Explorer Scouts also have a braided ribbon sort of thing that pins are added to:
(https://retailobjects.scoutshop.org/media/wysiwyg/660407_Webelos-Adventures-Colors-Lifestyle_2.jpg)
Fellow Eagle checking in, and may I just thank the Green Town Pursuivant for blowing a
thick layer of dust off some old memories with these images! (As long as we don't go the old Tiger Cub route of a t-shirt with iron-on patches...)
If we're going to make a logo, perhaps something related to the ship emblem of the Immigration Ministry would be appropriate? Could even be a hybrid design -- MinImm uses a ship, the Seneschal's emblem is a star. So why not a sextant? The recipient has helped the new citizen find their way to Talossa, much as a sextant helps ships navigate the seas using stars.
- Foxmouth
I picked a penguin, perhaps because of recent Penguin Awareness Day making me more aware of them, but I like the idea of incorporating the theme behind the award.
I don't think a sextant would read at the scale we're talking (about an inch square), but a ship would. I can probably find the same ship I used for the MinImm badge, to make it extra recognizable. Or just some other nautical thing. Sextant is worth a try.
I'm going to see if I can find the cordage as a next step, and then I'll redesign once I have it and know how big to make the gap in the back. And I'll put up some examples from which people can choose.
Thanks!
-SVA
Okay, I think this has a good nautical theme and looks good. All of the colors are on their own level, so it will only require one color change and won't waste much filament, and I can print them in bulk, twenty or thirty at a time (I haven't worked it out exactly). I can fairly easily print out two or three hundred and take care of our needs for the foreseeable future.
(https://imx.talossa.com/i/7f0ef7c0-e10e-4210-b1c9-cf439fae1aa0.png)
I have designed a press-fit channel underneath that should print well to hold a 2mm nylon cord. The current design is here: https://www.tinkercad.com/things/lFna6xfoiuf-pretz-patriotic-del-seneschal
(https://imx.talossa.com/i/47fda4c6-99cc-4fc1-a95e-5bed7395ad36.png)
The cord can be easily cut and then melted on an iron to seal the end neatly, and it should hold any kind of bead we care to get for this purpose. I already ordered it.
I'll print out a prototype soon. It's too cold for my printer to work properly where I am right now, but once the temperature goes back over 20 or 30, it should work okay.
All of this is going to total up like $20 worth of materials, so I'm just going to make it my donation.
-SVA