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Title: A National Ale?
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 03, 2026, 10:02:08 PM
The conversation in Discord got me thinking. Some mentioned an interest in homebrewing and I am wondering if there has ever been consideration of creating a recipe for a "national beer?" It would certainly be an interesting cultural project where people could on their own reproduce it perhaps to celebrate important national holidays.

With the caveat that not all Talossans are drinkers it might be an interesting venture.
Title: Re: A National Ale?
Post by: xpb on July 24, 2026, 09:23:14 PM
Frank Zappa

"Every major industrialized nation has A BEER (you can't be a Real Country unless you have A BEER and an airline—it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need A BEER."



1999 (1989 copyright), The Real Frank Zappa Book, by Frank Zappa with Peter Occhiogrosso, Section: Introduction, Quote Page 9, A Touchstone Book: Simon & Schuster, New York. (Verified on paper in 1999 reprint edition; originally published in 1989 by Poseidon Press, New York) ↩�
Title: Re: A National Ale?
Post by: Iason Taiwos on July 24, 2026, 10:18:42 PM
Quote from: xpb on July 24, 2026, 09:23:14 PMFrank Zappa

"Every major industrialized nation has A BEER (you can't be a Real Country unless you have A BEER and an airline—it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need A BEER."



1999 (1989 copyright), The Real Frank Zappa Book, by Frank Zappa with Peter Occhiogrosso, Section: Introduction, Quote Page 9, A Touchstone Book: Simon & Schuster, New York. (Verified on paper in 1999 reprint edition; originally published in 1989 by Poseidon Press, New York) ↩�

Some company decades ago made some beer with Zappa album covers as the labels. I still have the bottle with the Lumpy Gravy album cover on it. Don't recall if the beer was any good. (I'm a huge Zappa fan.)
I was gifted a beer brewing kit by a family member for Christmas one time. It was too complicated for me, so I turned it into a wine making kit. Wine is way easier to make. The wine that I eventually made was actually pretty tasty, but the alcohol content was over the top. After one night of sampling my home made wine, my wife dumped the rest down the toilet, and threatened to leave me if I ever made wine again. I don't remember much about that night. But I imagine I was having a good time.
Title: Re: A National Ale?
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on July 24, 2026, 11:47:03 PM
This is an ironic conversation, because Zappa's book contains a chapter in which he discusses a theory that beer (as opposed to other forms of alcohol) somehow causes "violent male bonding". In his own idiom: "whiskey might make you want to kill your girlfriend, but beer makes you want to do it with your buddies watching".
Title: Re: A National Ale?
Post by: King Txec on July 25, 2026, 12:09:12 AM
Quote from: Iason Taiwos on July 24, 2026, 10:18:42 PM
Quote from: xpb on July 24, 2026, 09:23:14 PMFrank Zappa

"Every major industrialized nation has A BEER (you can't be a Real Country unless you have A BEER and an airline—it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need A BEER."



1999 (1989 copyright), The Real Frank Zappa Book, by Frank Zappa with Peter Occhiogrosso, Section: Introduction, Quote Page 9, A Touchstone Book: Simon & Schuster, New York. (Verified on paper in 1999 reprint edition; originally published in 1989 by Poseidon Press, New York) ↩�

Some company decades ago made some beer with Zappa album covers as the labels. I still have the bottle with the Lumpy Gravy album cover on it. Don't recall if the beer was any good. (I'm a huge Zappa fan.)
I was gifted a beer brewing kit by a family member for Christmas one time. It was too complicated for me, so I turned it into a wine making kit. Wine is way easier to make. The wine that I eventually made was actually pretty tasty, but the alcohol content was over the top. After one night of sampling my home made wine, my wife dumped the rest down the toilet, and threatened to leave me if I ever made wine again. I don't remember much about that night. But I imagine I was having a good time.

That's so funny Sir Iason.

-Txec R
Title: Re: A National Ale?
Post by: King Txec on July 25, 2026, 12:09:47 AM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on July 24, 2026, 11:47:03 PMThis is an ironic conversation, because Zappa's book contains a chapter in which he discusses a theory that beer (as opposed to other forms of alcohol) somehow causes "violent male bonding". In his own idiom: "whiskey might make you want to kill your girlfriend, but beer makes you want to do it with your buddies watching".

I love a good scotch but it's never made me want to kill anything :-)

-Txec R
Title: Re: A National Ale?
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on July 25, 2026, 03:40:24 PM
Quote from: King Txec on July 25, 2026, 12:09:47 AM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on July 24, 2026, 11:47:03 PMThis is an ironic conversation, because Zappa's book contains a chapter in which he discusses a theory that beer (as opposed to other forms of alcohol) somehow causes "violent male bonding". In his own idiom: "whiskey might make you want to kill your girlfriend, but beer makes you want to do it with your buddies watching".

I love a good scotch but it's never made me want to kill anything :-)

-Txec R

Quote from: Zappa, same sourceConsumption of (beer) leeds to pseudo-military behavior. Think about it - winos don't march. Whiskey guys don't march either (sometimes they write poetry, which is often more horrible, though).
Title: Re: A National Ale?
Post by: Sir Lüc on July 26, 2026, 04:20:23 AM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on July 25, 2026, 03:40:24 PM
Quote from: Zappa, same sourceConsumption of (beer) leeds to pseudo-military behavior. Think about it - winos don't march. Whiskey guys don't march either (sometimes they write poetry, which is often more horrible, though).

Heh, if Zappa was still alive, he'd be welcome at any Alpini parade to witness how winos don't march, and definitely don't harrass anyone either (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/11/italy-alpini-elite-mountain-troops-face-inquiry-harassment-claims).
Title: Re: A National Ale?
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on July 26, 2026, 03:40:53 PM
Quote from: Sir Lüc on July 26, 2026, 04:20:23 AMHeh, if Zappa was still alive, he'd be welcome at any Alpini parade to witness how winos don't march, and definitely don't harrass anyone either (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/11/italy-alpini-elite-mountain-troops-face-inquiry-harassment-claims).

You can't fool me, northern Italy is beer country :D