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Title: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Sir Lüc on September 15, 2026, 06:58:48 AM
With the election certified, it's my pleasure to open seat allocations for the 63rd Cosă.

The seats to be allocated are:

Progressive Alliance: 88 seats @Baron Alexandreu Davinescu
Uniun dels Reformistaes Livereschti: 83 seats @Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be & @Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC
Green Party: 12 seats @Crement Itravilatx
Independent Green/Anarcho-Surrealist: 10 seats @Garth Spencer
Independent Progressive: 7 seats @Breneir Tzaracomprada 

As a reminder, the maximum number of seats that can be held by a single MC is 30. Off-list MCs are no longer allowed.
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on September 15, 2026, 07:42:07 AM
All 7 seats for Independent Progressive to myself (Breneir Tzaracomprada)
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on September 15, 2026, 09:49:20 AM
QuoteAs a reminder, the maximum number of seats that can be held by a single MC is 37 (30 * 200 / (2 * 82)).
Should the cap not be 30, since the calcuation includes PRESENT votes?
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Sir Lüc on September 15, 2026, 10:53:05 AM
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on September 15, 2026, 09:49:20 AM
QuoteAs a reminder, the maximum number of seats that can be held by a single MC is 37 (30 * 200 / (2 * 82)).
Should the cap not be 30, since the calcuation includes PRESENT votes?

Huh. Yes it should. I may have completely dreamt up a provision that has never existed even before the recent amendment. Not sure why I had the impression that only votes cast for parties counted. (Especially since I've done this correctly before!)
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Mic’haglh Autófil, O.Be on September 15, 2026, 07:13:41 PM
The Union of Free Reformists assigns its seats as follows:

@Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC : 19 seats
@Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP : 19 seats
@Tåltind Furxheir (Ethan Smith) : 15 seats
@Barclamïu da Miéletz : 15 seats
Marti-Pair Furxheir ( @mpf ): 15 seats
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Crement Itravilatx on September 15, 2026, 09:25:25 PM
Taking a moment to congratulate everyone responsible for such a well-run election.

Green Party seat assignments:

Crement Itravilatx: 9 seats
@Muhammed Yasir : 3 seats
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on September 16, 2026, 09:05:29 AM
We will be assigning our seats very soon -- there's one MC who might not be able to serve, it seems like, so I want to make sure before I assign them seats.
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on September 17, 2026, 08:55:26 AM
The Progressive Alliance assigns its seats as follows:
1. @xpb: 22 seats
2. @Françal I. Lux: 22 seats
3. @Duke John: 22 seats
4. @Moinul Moin: 22 seats
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Sir Lüc on September 17, 2026, 10:07:28 AM
All the above is reflected in the Database. @Garth Spencer still has to assign his 10 seats. (Though I'm not sure if this is strictly necessary anymore, now that he legally has no choice but to assign all 10 to himself)


With 190/200 seats filled, and with the former Túischac'h (finally!) continuing as an MC, I suggest we return to normal precedent (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=4837.0) and invite the outgoing incument @Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP open nominations for the position of Túischac'h.
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Garth Spencer on September 25, 2026, 10:41:42 PM
Garth him say

"Wow. I have ten seats. I really should put on more weight."
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Sir Lüc on September 26, 2026, 04:56:41 AM
Quote from: Garth Spencer on September 25, 2026, 10:41:42 PMGarth him say

"Wow. I have ten seats. I really should put on more weight."

You can also try and lie down across all of them!
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Sir Lüc on September 26, 2026, 05:09:19 AM
Anyway, that's all 200 seats assigned.

I will now be opening the Call for Bills as time is running low - I had been holding off on doing so because we don't have a new Túischac'h, Mençei and A-X to form a new CRL, but time is running low and the former CRL, sans Sir Marcel who Organically ceased to be the Túischac'h upon Dissolution, is still legally empowered to scrutinise bills.
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Sir Lüc on October 23, 2026, 10:19:03 AM
The 7 seats from the Independent Progressive are now vacant following ex-MC Tzaracomprada's resignation.

Following the Democracy Amendment's ratification, we're in a novel situation, so let's do this step by step. OrgLaw IV.3 states:

QuoteIn the case of vacant party seats occurring between elections, the Secretary of State shall inform the King and the leader of whatever party held the vacant seat.
I am doing so now: @King Txec and @Breneir Tzaracomprada

QuoteThe Secretary of State shall redistribute all of that party's seats among the remaining eligible candidates on that party's list in the same manner described in the second section, above. If no eligible candidate remains on that party's list, whether by vacation, ineligibility, or the operation of the maximum seats provision, the King may assign the seat according to his own best judgment, or leave it vacant.

By my reading there are neither any "remaining" nor "eligible" candidates, since the Independent Progressive's party list consisted of just S:r Tzaracomprada, and the next sentence states that "vacation" is one of the reason for ineligibility. So I can't automatically redistribute any seats, which is convenient, because we have previously determined that the previous section is partially inoperable (we don't have ordered party lists yet - not that it would have mattered in this specific case.)

So it falls to His Majesty to reassign the 7 seats according to His best judgment, before the Second Clark, or to leave them vacant.
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: King Txec on October 23, 2026, 12:24:16 PM
Well this is certainly an interesting thing to come up. Has any previous King ever had to make a decision about vacant seats like this? This feels like uncharted waters for sure. I will give this some thought, but I would welcome the input of any MZ or interested citizen. I'll give a decision in a couple days.

-Txec R
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on October 23, 2026, 12:57:14 PM
To my knowledge, this has never happened before.  I would suggest that @Breneir Tzaracomprada can advise about how he thinks his seats should be reassigned, and should such advice be neither unreasonable nor churlish, it could be accepted.  He and one other voter chose his party to represent them in the Cosa, so presumably he's the best-equipped to suggest who in the country will champion similar interests.  It need not be a current MC, of course.
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 23, 2026, 03:06:01 PM
Hi, I would request the seats be assigned to the Green Party leader @Crement Itravilatx or @Muhammed Yasir. I would also support not reassigning them at all. Hopefully neither of these suggestions would be found to be unreasonable or churlish, Seneschal.
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: King Txec on October 23, 2026, 04:55:11 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 23, 2026, 03:06:01 PMHi, I would request the seats be assigned to the Green Party leader @Crement Itravilatx or @Muhammed Yasir. I would also support not reassigning them at all. Hopefully neither of these suggestions would be found to be unreasonable or churlish, Seneschal.

My inclination is to not give the seats to any political party but to a non-aligned citizen. I am not interested in seeing one party or another increase its size in the Cosa. This isn't a final thought, just where my head currently is.

-Txec R
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 23, 2026, 05:03:24 PM
Quote from: King Txec on October 23, 2026, 04:55:11 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 23, 2026, 03:06:01 PMHi, I would request the seats be assigned to the Green Party leader @Crement Itravilatx or @Muhammed Yasir. I would also support not reassigning them at all. Hopefully neither of these suggestions would be found to be unreasonable or churlish, Seneschal.

My inclination is to not give the seats to any political party but to a non-aligned citizen. I am not interested in seeing one party or another increase its size in the Cosa. This isn't a final thought, just where my head currently is.

-Txec R

I wonder whether it would be hard to find a citizen who is non-aligned which leads me to believe not reassigning them would be better if one is motivated by concerns of partisanship.
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on October 23, 2026, 05:44:03 PM
May I suggest that they could be given as new citizen seats?  It seems like we're going to have a lot of new citizens in the next couple of weeks, so they might want to get involved.
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: King Txec on October 23, 2026, 06:28:21 PM
I've worked quite hard to remain nonpartisan so my concern should be understandable. I do like the idea of them being new citizen seats. @Sir Lüc is this feasible?

-Txec R
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Sir Lüc on October 24, 2026, 09:57:46 AM
Quote from: King Txec on October 23, 2026, 12:24:16 PMWell this is certainly an interesting thing to come up. Has any previous King ever had to make a decision about vacant seats like this? This feels like uncharted waters for sure.

The one instance that comes to mind is in the 38th Ziu (https://database.talossa.com/ziu/terms/38), where I think the late Baron Fritz and ex-Seneschal John McGarry got one seat each from King John. (Although I don't quite remember why - probably a write-in vote for a party nobody registered, which happened quite frequently around 2006-2009 because of the turnover in which parties were around.)

QuoteI've worked quite hard to remain nonpartisan so my concern should be understandable. I do like the idea of them being new citizen seats. @Sir Lüc is this feasible?

Yes, it would be completely feasible. Although they would be "seats given to new citizens", not "new citizen seats", so they would work like normal seats and become available again should they be vacated, instead of vanishing. A new citizen would also not be limited to holding just one.

One other thing is that the seats belong to each MC, so they could ask me to represent some other entity than the Independent Progressive, despite the latter having won them at the elections.
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 24, 2026, 11:42:18 AM
Quote from: King Txec on October 23, 2026, 06:28:21 PMI've worked quite hard to remain nonpartisan so my concern should be understandable. I do like the idea of them being new citizen seats. @Sir Lüc is this feasible?

-Txec R

It is understandable, Your Majesty. That is why I suggested not reassigning them at all. The seats were assigned based on votes won during the last election. The new citizens can choose to align with a party later so the concern about growing another party is still relevant with reassigning to new citizens.
Title: Re: MCs for the 63rd Cosă
Post by: King Txec on October 29, 2026, 09:51:26 AM
I have decided to keep the seats vacant for the remainder of this Cosa, thus temporarily reducing the size of the Cosa until new elections are called.

-Txec R