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El Ziu/The Ziu => El Viestül/The Lobby => Topic started by: Antonio Montagnha, Ed. D. on April 10, 2022, 04:25:08 PM

Title: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Antonio Montagnha, Ed. D. on April 10, 2022, 04:25:08 PM
Esteemed Fellow Citizens,

I have recently been made aware of the possibility of obtaining a seat in the upcoming Cosa as representative of the current new batch of citizens. Though I wish to chart a citizenship experience that is not focused on partisan politics, I do have an interest in studying Talossan public administration, and producing public research through the Royal Society. I thus see this as an opportunity for active, participant research, not to mention a civic duty.

Please consider this my petition to be assigned such a seat.
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 11, 2022, 09:55:01 AM
Quote from: Antonio Montagnha, Ed. D. on April 10, 2022, 04:25:08 PM
Esteemed Fellow Citizens,

I have recently been made aware of the possibility of obtaining a seat in the upcoming Cosa as representative of the current new batch of citizens. Though I wish to chart a citizenship experience that is not focused on partisan politics, I do have an interest in studying Talossan public administration, and producing public research through the Royal Society. I thus see this as an opportunity for active, participant research, not to mention a civic duty.

Please consider this my petition to be assigned such a seat.

Azul,

This is a new provision of the Organic Law, but upon a close reading of the new sections, I have determined that new citizen Antonio Montagnha is indeed eligible to be granted one seat in the 57th Cosa, thereby increasing the size of the 57th Cosa to 201 seats. His seat will be assigned prior to the Seneschal election that will take place beginning on 5/1/2022.

(http://heraldry.talossa.com/LesserStateSeal.gif)

Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă,
Secretár d'Estat
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 11, 2022, 09:59:57 AM
Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on April 11, 2022, 09:55:01 AM
Quote from: Antonio Montagnha, Ed. D. on April 10, 2022, 04:25:08 PM
Esteemed Fellow Citizens,

I have recently been made aware of the possibility of obtaining a seat in the upcoming Cosa as representative of the current new batch of citizens. Though I wish to chart a citizenship experience that is not focused on partisan politics, I do have an interest in studying Talossan public administration, and producing public research through the Royal Society. I thus see this as an opportunity for active, participant research, not to mention a civic duty.

Please consider this my petition to be assigned such a seat.

Azul,

This is a new provision of the Organic Law, but upon a close reading of the new sections, I have determined that new citizen Antonio Montagnha is indeed eligible to be granted one seat in the 57th Cosa, thereby increasing the size of the 57th Cosa to 201 seats. His seat will be assigned prior to the Seneschal election that will take place beginning on 5/1/2022.

(http://heraldry.talossa.com/LesserStateSeal.gif)

Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă,
Secretár d'Estat

Dr. and MZ Montagnha, welcome to the Talossan Ziu. I look forward to working with you for the betterment of the Kingdom.

Breneir
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 11, 2022, 10:41:07 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 11, 2022, 09:59:57 AM
Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on April 11, 2022, 09:55:01 AM
Quote from: Antonio Montagnha, Ed. D. on April 10, 2022, 04:25:08 PM
Esteemed Fellow Citizens,

I have recently been made aware of the possibility of obtaining a seat in the upcoming Cosa as representative of the current new batch of citizens. Though I wish to chart a citizenship experience that is not focused on partisan politics, I do have an interest in studying Talossan public administration, and producing public research through the Royal Society. I thus see this as an opportunity for active, participant research, not to mention a civic duty.

Please consider this my petition to be assigned such a seat.

Azul,

This is a new provision of the Organic Law, but upon a close reading of the new sections, I have determined that new citizen Antonio Montagnha is indeed eligible to be granted one seat in the 57th Cosa, thereby increasing the size of the 57th Cosa to 201 seats. His seat will be assigned prior to the Seneschal election that will take place beginning on 5/1/2022.

(http://heraldry.talossa.com/LesserStateSeal.gif)

Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă,
Secretár d'Estat

Dr. and MZ Montagnha, welcome to the Talossan Ziu. I look forward to working with you for the betterment of the Kingdom.

Breneir
Is it Dr MZ Montagnha or MC Dr Montagnha?
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Mic’haglh Autófil, SMC EiP on April 11, 2022, 01:46:06 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 11, 2022, 10:41:07 AM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 11, 2022, 09:59:57 AM
Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on April 11, 2022, 09:55:01 AM
Quote from: Antonio Montagnha, Ed. D. on April 10, 2022, 04:25:08 PM
Esteemed Fellow Citizens,

I have recently been made aware of the possibility of obtaining a seat in the upcoming Cosa as representative of the current new batch of citizens. Though I wish to chart a citizenship experience that is not focused on partisan politics, I do have an interest in studying Talossan public administration, and producing public research through the Royal Society. I thus see this as an opportunity for active, participant research, not to mention a civic duty.

Please consider this my petition to be assigned such a seat.

Azul,

This is a new provision of the Organic Law, but upon a close reading of the new sections, I have determined that new citizen Antonio Montagnha is indeed eligible to be granted one seat in the 57th Cosa, thereby increasing the size of the 57th Cosa to 201 seats. His seat will be assigned prior to the Seneschal election that will take place beginning on 5/1/2022.

(http://heraldry.talossa.com/LesserStateSeal.gif)

Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă,
Secretár d'Estat

Dr. and MZ Montagnha, welcome to the Talossan Ziu. I look forward to working with you for the betterment of the Kingdom.

Breneir
Is it Dr MZ Montagnha or MC Dr Montagnha?

I was under the impression it could be considered either, but "MC" would be more specific, since Senators are also MZs.

Welcome to the Cosa, Dr. Montagnha!
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Antonio Montagnha, Ed. D. on April 12, 2022, 12:19:14 PM
Thank you all for the welcome. Does the "MC" not go after the name? Or is before the name a Talossan tradition derived from the nature of our language?
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 12, 2022, 12:31:08 PM
Quote from: Antonio Montagnha, Ed. D. on April 12, 2022, 12:19:14 PM
Thank you all for the welcome. Does the "MC" not go after the name? Or is before the name a Talossan tradition derived from the nature of our language?

I would say it goes after the name, like post nominals.
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Vitxalmour Axhairsegol on April 14, 2022, 08:17:05 AM
can i take a seat at parliment
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 14, 2022, 09:53:37 AM
Quote from: Vitxalmour on April 14, 2022, 08:17:05 AM
can i take a seat at parliment

Absolutely. Assuming this is a formal request, I will only need to know your chosen surname so I can formally issue a Writ.
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on April 14, 2022, 11:08:19 AM
Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on April 14, 2022, 09:53:37 AM
Quote from: Vitxalmour on April 14, 2022, 08:17:05 AM
can i take a seat at parliment

Absolutely. Assuming this is a formal request, I will only need to know your chosen surname so I can formally issue a Writ.

@Vitxalmour are you planning to use the suggested last name of "Axhairsegol"?
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Vitxalmour Axhairsegol on April 14, 2022, 11:14:50 AM
yes i love that last name
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 14, 2022, 02:27:02 PM
Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on April 14, 2022, 09:53:37 AM
Quote from: Vitxalmour on April 14, 2022, 08:17:05 AM
can i take a seat at parliment

Absolutely. Assuming this is a formal request, I will only need to know your chosen surname so I can formally issue a Writ.

Azul,

I have determined that new citizen Vitxalmour Axhairsegol is indeed eligible to be granted one seat in the 57th Cosa, thereby increasing the size of the 57th Cosa to 202 seats. His seat will be assigned prior to the Seneschal election that will take place beginning on 5/1/2022.

(http://heraldry.talossa.com/LesserStateSeal.gif)

Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă,
Secretár d'Estat
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on April 14, 2022, 03:45:18 PM
Is there any sort of "grandfather" clause for those of us who became citizens just before the last election?
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 14, 2022, 05:21:58 PM
Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on April 14, 2022, 03:45:18 PM
Is there any sort of "grandfather" clause for those of us who became citizens just before the last election?

According to my reading and interpretation of Section 4.1 of the Organic Law, you would have had to become eligible to vote after the most recent election deadline. You became eligible to vote on May of 2021. Unfortunately you don't qualify for this new provision of law. A political party may give you seats if they so chose, however. There is provision in law for that.

Sorry if this isn't the answer you were hoping for.
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on April 14, 2022, 05:38:36 PM
Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on April 14, 2022, 05:21:58 PM
Quote from: Tric'hard Lenxheir on April 14, 2022, 03:45:18 PM
Is there any sort of "grandfather" clause for those of us who became citizens just before the last election?

According to my reading and interpretation of Section 4.1 of the Organic Law, you would have had to become eligible to vote after the most recent election deadline. You became eligible to vote on May of 2021. Unfortunately you don't qualify for this new provision of law. A political party may give you seats if they so chose, however. There is provision in law for that.

Sorry if this isn't the answer you were hoping for.

It is the answer I expected. Honestly I'm probably not smart enough to hold a seat anyway LOL
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 14, 2022, 07:26:31 PM
Folks, we really shouldn't be debating in this thread.  The SoS is gonna get mad.  Tric'hard, I'll PM you once we've worked out if we can help make this possible.
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on April 14, 2022, 07:27:28 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 14, 2022, 07:26:31 PM
Folks, we really shouldn't be debating in this thread.  The SoS is gonna get mad.  Tric'hard, I'll PM you once we've worked out if we can help make this possible.

Okay thank you
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on April 14, 2022, 08:14:47 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 14, 2022, 07:26:31 PM
Folks, we really shouldn't be debating in this thread.  The SoS is gonna get mad.  Tric'hard, I'll PM you once we've worked out if we can help make this possible.

Not mad, just forced to take some minor action. Thank you.
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 18, 2022, 05:53:10 PM
@Bråneu Excelsio  other new citizens have requested a new citizen seat in this thread. Please use their request as a template.
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Bråneu Excelsio on July 18, 2022, 06:02:14 PM
Azul! I request, if you can find it in your hearts, to grant a Seat to this new citizen before you.
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on July 18, 2022, 06:46:33 PM
Quote from: Bråneu Excelsio on July 18, 2022, 06:02:14 PM
Azul! I request, if you can find it in your hearts, to grant a Seat to this new citizen before you.

Azul,

Upon a close reading of the new sections, I have determined that new citizen Bråneu Excelsio is indeed eligible to be granted one seat in the 57th Cosa, thereby increasing the size of the 57th Cosa to 203 seats. His seat will be assigned prior to the 3rd Clark that will take place beginning on 8/1/2022.

(https://i.ibb.co/qMJG5xZ/66-FF1-A4-D-E740-424-D-9-DDF-306-A963-FD97-B.gif) (https://imgbb.com/)

Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă,
Secretár d'Estat
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on July 18, 2022, 06:47:28 PM
SoS note: the petitioner was granted a seat from the TNC earlier. Is this still the case?
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on July 18, 2022, 06:56:27 PM
If he's eligible for the new citizen seats that we started this term, there doesn't seem to be any need and It can be assigned back to me.
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Bråneu Excelsio on July 18, 2022, 07:52:46 PM
I agree. I am profoundly grateful for the seat that was granted to me by Baron Alexandreu Davinescu:
https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1580.msg13208#msg13208 (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1580.msg13208#msg13208)

And if there's a need for me to state that I give the Seat back in the corresponding thread, I can do it asap.
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on July 18, 2022, 09:34:23 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on July 18, 2022, 06:56:27 PM
If he's eligible for the new citizen seats that we started this term, there doesn't seem to be any need and It can be assigned back to me.

He does qualify and will be assigned a seat for the 3rd Clark. As I've not yet seated him with the one seat you kindly offered from your own allocation, and with the approval of your party leader, I will not change your seat count Baron.
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on July 18, 2022, 09:35:59 PM
Quote from: Bråneu Excelsio on July 18, 2022, 07:52:46 PM
I agree. I am profoundly grateful for the seat that was granted to me by Baron Alexandreu Davinescu:
https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1580.msg13208#msg13208 (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1580.msg13208#msg13208)

And if there's a need for me to state that I give the Seat back in the corresponding thread, I can do it asap.

Yes, I would need you to formally give the seat back to the TNC for the party leader to assign it back to the baron.
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on July 18, 2022, 09:36:45 PM
Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on July 18, 2022, 09:34:23 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on July 18, 2022, 06:56:27 PM
If he's eligible for the new citizen seats that we started this term, there doesn't seem to be any need and It can be assigned back to me.

He does qualify and will be assigned a seat for the 3rd Clark. As I've not yet seated him with the one seat you kindly offered from your own allocation, and with the approval of your party leader, I will not change your seat count Baron.
Thank you, as always, for your prompt and careful work.  We are lucky to have you as Secretary of State.
Title: Re: New Citizen Seat Petition
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on July 18, 2022, 09:45:23 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on July 18, 2022, 09:36:45 PM
Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on July 18, 2022, 09:34:23 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on July 18, 2022, 06:56:27 PM
If he's eligible for the new citizen seats that we started this term, there doesn't seem to be any need and It can be assigned back to me.

He does qualify and will be assigned a seat for the 3rd Clark. As I've not yet seated him with the one seat you kindly offered from your own allocation, and with the approval of your party leader, I will not change your seat count Baron.
Thank you, as always, for your prompt and careful work.  We are lucky to have you as Secretary of State.

Thank you Baron.