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Title: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: Ian Plätschisch on June 26, 2022, 08:28:57 PM
Whereas I have recently been informed that some of our domain names are set to expire in one week, rather than in October as we expected,

Therefore I authorize the following expenditures:
- $64.20 for talossa.com webhosting
- $18.95 for renewing the kingdomoftalossa.net domain name
- $18.95 for renewing the talossa.net domain name
- $18.95 for renewing the talossan.com domain name

Signed,
Ian Plätschisch, Seneschal
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: Ian Plätschisch on June 26, 2022, 08:30:08 PM
@King John
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 29, 2022, 03:31:27 PM
The Seneschál has actually voice-called the King (leaving a message) to encourage him to endorse this PD at the highest possible speed.

If he doesn't do so within 24 hours, we're in trouble, and this time no-one will be able to say "the Government didn't try hard enough". We may have to rely on the Opposition, who the King is much more kindly disposed to, to get in touch.
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: xpb on June 30, 2022, 09:19:00 AM
I see
talossa.com
Updated 1 second ago
Domain Information
Domain:talossa.com
Registrar:PDR Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com
Registered On:1997-05-27
Expires On:2023-05-26
Updated On:2021-07-22
Status:clientTransferProhibited
Name Servers:ns3.deroyalservers.com
ns4.deroyalservers.com
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: xpb on June 30, 2022, 09:20:35 AM
Talossa.net and Kingdomoftalossa.com and Kingdomoftalossa.net all expire Sunday
Expires On:2022-07-03
Updated On:2020-11-08
Status:clientTransferProhibited
Name Servers:ns3.deroyalservers.com
ns4.deroyalservers.com

Perhaps they are tied to the hosting service details.
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: xpb on June 30, 2022, 02:25:01 PM
Is this tied to the request for a Burgermeister?
https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1519.0

Is there a lack of funds, or a fund release issue, or is the issue procedural?
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 30, 2022, 03:32:34 PM
The issue is that the King has not endorsed the PD. We cannot release funds unless the King endorses the PD.
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: xpb on June 30, 2022, 04:13:03 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 30, 2022, 03:32:34 PM
The issue is that the King has not endorsed the PD. We cannot release funds unless the King endorses the PD.

So one issue is release of existing funds to pay, which needs authorization.  Another according to PDR Ltd. https://publicdomainregistry.com/renew/ is that the registrar provided notice on or about 3 June and it is now 30 June. 

If the domain expires it can be revived for an additional fee, but that will cause a pause in the domain use.  Thus should the Kingdom via the Administrative contact not be in the position to make payment, I would be happy to bridge that timeframe with an alternative source of funding until such time as the authorization is received such that there will not be such a disruption.

I have sent a PM, text message, and email to @ Istefan Perþonest  regarding this issue
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 30, 2022, 04:53:59 PM
Istefan can't do anything unless the King signs the PD. The Seneschal has already spoken to Istefan and Istefan is (I believe) ready to act the instant the King gives the go-ahead.

If worst comes to worst, I'll pay out of my own pocket and the Kingdom can pay me back, but I can't understand why the King doesn't answer his voice mail or text messages.
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 30, 2022, 05:02:27 PM
Quote from: xpb on June 30, 2022, 04:13:03 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 30, 2022, 03:32:34 PM
The issue is that the King has not endorsed the PD. We cannot release funds unless the King endorses the PD.

So one issue is release of existing funds to pay, which needs authorization.  Another according to PDR Ltd. https://publicdomainregistry.com/renew/ is that the registrar provided notice on or about 3 June and it is now 30 June.

XPB, I followed the link and it took me to their general site. I am assuming I need to use the search bar to see the specific website information. Does the site indicate who was the recipient of notice on 3 June?
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 30, 2022, 05:34:10 PM
Billing requests go directly to the Burgermeister
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: King John on June 30, 2022, 05:49:00 PM
I approve the PD. My thanks to the Seneschál and Baron Alexandreu for tracking me down.

-- John Regeu
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: Istefan Perþonest on June 30, 2022, 06:17:58 PM
Okay, I went through and paid the domain renewals from the Kingdom's PayPal account.

Contrary to the numbers listed in the PD, the fees for the two renewed .net domains were $20.95 instead of $18.95.

I went ahead and paid them anyway, y'all can either pretty that up in the regular budget legislation or decide to bill me the $4.
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 30, 2022, 06:21:26 PM
Apologies, Istefan. I found out about the $4 difference yesterday and asked the Seneschál to update the PD, but he didn't get to it before the King signed it. DeRoyal said they were putting up the prices but seem to have put them up in two "batches" a few days apart.

Thank you so much for your help.
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: Istefan Perþonest on June 30, 2022, 06:32:17 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 30, 2022, 06:21:26 PM
Apologies, Istefan. I found out about the $4 difference yesterday and asked the Seneschál to update the PD, but he didn't get to it before the King signed it.
Well, you currently have a semi-functioning Burgermeister instead of one who's on top of things. If I'd been up to how I used to do this job, this would have been handled a few weeks ago.

On the webhosting renewal, there doesn't seem to be any obvious way to pay it right now, so I'm waiting to be invoiced in a few weeks. Don't panic, my eye is on it.
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 30, 2022, 06:37:40 PM
It seems like everyone in every respect did their best here, and are to be commended for dealing with a time sensitive and annoying problem. A price hike shouldn't come with 12 hours notice, or be implemented partially over the course of a day.

We get a good deal on hosting from DoRoyal, compensating for how much were overpaying for domain names, but we might want to think about lodging an official complaint about how this was handled.
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 30, 2022, 06:50:43 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 30, 2022, 06:37:40 PM
We get a good deal on hosting from DoRoyal, compensating for how much were overpaying for domain names, but we might want to think about lodging an official complaint about how this was handled.

I'm going to commend this idea to Cabinet's attention (and the Burgermeister's since it would have to be written in his name)
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 30, 2022, 07:00:33 PM
More on how I got confused. When I took over at STUFF/Tech, the attached was the screen I looked at to see what needed renewal. You can understand why, looking at this screen, I thought the domain names were up for renewal on 18th October, rather than 2 July. It was on a different screen (the "Renew Domains" screen) that the actual due dates were revealed. I suppose, on the basis of our experience, the renewal date for our web hosting is a few months down the track, which is why Istefan doesn't see any way to pay for it now. It's all very confusing and I was dropped in it by the fact that no-one else in the Government's orbit was interested in taking on the Tech portfolio.
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: Istefan Perþonest on June 30, 2022, 07:36:18 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 30, 2022, 07:00:33 PM
More on how I got confused. When I took over at STUFF/Tech, the attached was the screen I looked at to see what needed renewal. You can understand why, looking at this screen, I thought the domain names were up for renewal on 18th October, rather than 2 July.
Yeah, this is part their fault, part mine.

The their-fault part is that they based the renewal dates there not on when the domains expired, but when the domains were transferred from the previous administering body to DoRoyal. (Back when the King was handing this privately instead of the Kingdom, he had bought the domains in July and renewed them in July, but the transfer of the domains from the King's hosting to DoRoyal happened in October.) They've apparently acknowledged this on their part, and have decided to renew our other two domains (the ones not authorized in this PD) for free, which is nice enough.

The my-fault part is that I noticed that back last October and that we were okay though this July, and accordingly pulled the pin on the renewal panic back then, but I did not make noise about this early in June even though I knew it was coming up. I've got issues that explain why I didn't (I've had some physical health issues lately on top of my mental health ones), but I still should have said something.

On the general hosting renewal, there just isn't a place I could find to pay an invoice that hasn't been sent. They'll invoice on the auto-renewal, and I'll pay it then, same as I did last year.
Title: Re: [Prime Dictate] Emergency Funding for Webhosting Costs
Post by: xpb on June 30, 2022, 11:19:45 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 30, 2022, 05:02:27 PM
Quote from: xpb on June 30, 2022, 04:13:03 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 30, 2022, 03:32:34 PM
The issue is that the King has not endorsed the PD. We cannot release funds unless the King endorses the PD.

So one issue is release of existing funds to pay, which needs authorization.  Another according to PDR Ltd. https://publicdomainregistry.com/renew/ is that the registrar provided notice on or about 3 June and it is now 30 June.

XPB, I followed the link and it took me to their general site. I am assuming I need to use the search bar to see the specific website information. Does the site indicate who was the recipient of notice on 3 June?

The whois entry for each of the domains has the name, phone, and email address for the administrator via https://www.whois.com/whois/talossa.com

Not sure about the hosting details