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El Ziu/The Ziu => La Cosă/The Cosa => Topic started by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 12, 2022, 01:04:07 PM

Title: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 12, 2022, 01:04:07 PM
Estimat MCs:

I'm just going to take the bull by the horns and start planning the Living Cosa now, since it's in a little over a week.  Please chime in on any of these points if you have a comment, criticism, or suggestion.  Our primary goals are: practicality, pomposity, and precedent.  We need to be practical in putting together an event for dozens of people, thinking about the logistics and what's likely to happen (including my own possible absence).  We need to be pompous and a bit silly, since that's fun (and inevitable anyway).  And we need to respect the fact that we're establishing precedent here (not the first LC, but the first in a generation).

I intend to set some basic ground rules and expectations for behavior during the LC, but we should expect that things will probably arise that we didn't plan on, and so decisions will need to be made on the fly.  Those decisions might not be perfect, but they do need to be in service to our primary goals and made in good faith.

Planned Agenda
I. Chair formally opens the Living Cosa and reviews rules very briefly.

II. Appointment by the chair of a Doorkeeper and Sergeant at Arms, to which the power to maintain order is delegated as necessary.

III. Appointment by the chair of a Chaplain, who will be invited to give an invocation (non-religious).

IV. Apologies.

V. Invitation by the chair to the Seneschal to address the assembled Ziu.

VI. Invitation by the chair to the Leader of the Opposition to address the assembled Ziu.

VII. Terpelaziuns

VIII. Clark Business.
    A. Reading by the chair of the current votes on the submitted bills, followed by voting on the bills.  Each bill is handled individually.
    C. Reading by the chair of the current confidence votes.
    D. Voting on confidence.

iX. Adjournment.


Rules
Rules are drawn from standard rules of order for organizations.

Any MZ may make a motion during an appropriate time by asking to be recognized by the chair.  Once the motion is stated, the chair will ask for a mick.  If there is a mick, then the chair will restate the motion and debate will begin.  Debate will continue until there are no more speakers who wish to be heard.  Debate can be ended by a motion to consider the previous question, if micked and affirmed by a majority of MZs.

The Clarked bills may not be tabled, sent to committee, or amended.

There is only one privileged motion.  At any time after a ruling of the chair, an MZ may move to overrule the chair.

At any point, an MZ may raise any of the following:
These points may not be abused for personal commentary, debate outside of the established order, or other conduct not becoming a member of the Ziu.  The chair may decline to recognize a member in such circumstances.

All rules for terpelaziuns will be scrupulously followed, but members are warned that officials of the Government are not required to be present at the Living Cosa and will not be expected in case of their attendance to have every fact on hand.  Terpelaziuns which pertain to specific data or questions of fact should be lodged with the official in question through the normal procedure prior to the Living Cosa, so that the official may make inquiries.  The terpelaziun period shall be cordial and orderly.
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on November 13, 2022, 05:03:42 PM
Have we confirmed who's chairing yet?
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 13, 2022, 06:21:07 PM
I'm trying to figure things out so that I can do it. I won't have any childcare that day, so I'll have three little kids, but I might be able to make it work because my brother will be visiting for Thanksgiving. If I can't do it, I will choose someone and confirm with them that they can do it in advance of the event.
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on November 13, 2022, 08:28:09 PM
Cool. We should also have, at the top of the agenda, a space for Apologies for MCs and Senators who can't make it. For the FreeDems I bring advance notice that the Senator from Fiova and MC Antaglha Someliéir would like to present their apologies; a few others are "maybes" who might have to decide on the day.
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 13, 2022, 08:43:40 PM
I'll add in some general time for comments, for things like that.
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 14, 2022, 08:20:31 PM
I've looked this over a few times, and I can't see anything jumping out at me to change.

@Ian Plätschisch and @Breneir Tzaracomprada , please be aware that you'll be provided the opportunity to make brief speeches, should you so choose.  Three to five minutes would probably be respectful of everyone's time, if you're looking for a guideline.

@Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu , I was thinking it might be appropriate to have you make apologies for any senators who can't make it, if you're willing, as Mencei?  And then party leaders ( @Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă, GST and @Breneir Tzaracomprada and @Mic'haglh Autófil, MC EiP  ) would make apologies for their own.  That all sound good to everyone?

@Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu , I was also hoping you would be Doorkeeper and Sergeant at Arms?

I will invite His Majesty to attend, and ask him to serve as Chaplain to deliver the invocation and/or address the Living Cosa with general remarks as sovereign.
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Ian Plätschisch on November 14, 2022, 08:56:44 PM
Have we figured out a time? I will try my best to be there but I have some family obligations later in the day.
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 14, 2022, 09:26:35 PM
I figure that 11 am TST is probably a good time.  Evening in Europe, morning in Godzone.
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on November 14, 2022, 11:33:08 PM
I'm not in the leadership of my party any longer.
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 15, 2022, 09:55:47 AM
I apologize.  I didn't know.

A quick search on Witt doesn't turn up any kind of announcement or anything about that.  Was there an election or something?  It looks like @Ian Plätschisch is the acting leader, currently?  (According to this message: https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1312.msg15352#msg15352)
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on November 15, 2022, 11:41:11 AM
No worries, just informing you. Yes, there was an election last month and as I am no longer in leadership, I left any announcements to the party bigwigs. :-)
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on November 15, 2022, 02:20:26 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 15, 2022, 09:55:47 AMI apologize.  I didn't know.

A quick search on Witt doesn't turn up any kind of announcement or anything about that.

... AD, you knew perfectly well on October 23 who the new leader of the Free Democrats is (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?msg=15323). Did you get a hit to the head between then and now?

As Antaglha has already given her apologies, I assume Party Secretary Senator Plätschisch will fulfil this role unless he tells us otherwise.
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 15, 2022, 02:37:20 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on November 15, 2022, 02:20:26 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 15, 2022, 09:55:47 AMI apologize.  I didn't know.

A quick search on Witt doesn't turn up any kind of announcement or anything about that.

... AD, you knew perfectly well on October 23 who the new leader of the Free Democrats is (https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?msg=15323). Did you get a hit to the head between then and now?
That's quite rude. Yes, I forgot that your party had a new leader. But I'm just trying to make sure that your party leader is notified of their opportunities and responsibilities, so I don't know what is prompting the attitude.
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on November 16, 2022, 02:26:42 PM
I've just realised that we don't seem to have set a firm time yet. This will be a vital question to see what actual turnout we can get.
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 16, 2022, 03:27:06 PM
I have set a time. If that seems too speculative, let me just say that it is official now.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 14, 2022, 09:26:35 PMI figure that 11 am TST is probably a good time.  Evening in Europe, morning in Godzone.
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on November 16, 2022, 03:35:54 PM
That's 6 am Monday my time. We'll have to see.
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Ian Plätschisch on November 16, 2022, 07:36:27 PM
Good news, I will be able to make it. Now I just have to think of something to say in my speech...
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on November 16, 2022, 10:23:27 PM
That is noon my time and after the next few days I will definitely be in need of some fun time. I will be there!
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on November 19, 2022, 07:19:21 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 14, 2022, 08:20:31 PMI've looked this over a few times, and I can't see anything jumping out at me to change.

@Ian Plätschisch and @Breneir Tzaracomprada , please be aware that you'll be provided the opportunity to make brief speeches, should you so choose.  Three to five minutes would probably be respectful of everyone's time, if you're looking for a guideline.

@Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu , I was thinking it might be appropriate to have you make apologies for any senators who can't make it, if you're willing, as Mencei?  And then party leaders ( @Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă, GST and @Breneir Tzaracomprada and @Mic'haglh Autófil, MC EiP  ) would make apologies for their own.  That all sound good to everyone?

@Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu , I was also hoping you would be Doorkeeper and Sergeant at Arms?

I will invite His Majesty to attend, and ask him to serve as Chaplain to deliver the invocation and/or address the Living Cosa with general remarks as sovereign.

Estimat Tuis,

Please forgive the intrusion onto the Cosa floor, but I'll keep it quick.

Very Sorry.  For some reason this thread did not ping me as being spoken to.

I am willing to serve as doorkeeper/sgt at arms.  Also, I am willing to address the body w/ Senatorial regrets.

I have, at this point, sent the Zoom invite via EMAIL to all of the email addresses I was provided (essentially all FreeDem).  If other party leaders want to shoot contacts my way, I can send it over as well.  If there is a closed forum somewhere, I am also willing to post there.

To confirm, we are looking at 11am Eastern Time, 11/20.
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Ian Plätschisch on November 19, 2022, 08:55:29 PM
Quote from: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on November 19, 2022, 07:19:21 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 14, 2022, 08:20:31 PMI've looked this over a few times, and I can't see anything jumping out at me to change.

@Ian Plätschisch and @Breneir Tzaracomprada , please be aware that you'll be provided the opportunity to make brief speeches, should you so choose.  Three to five minutes would probably be respectful of everyone's time, if you're looking for a guideline.

@Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu , I was thinking it might be appropriate to have you make apologies for any senators who can't make it, if you're willing, as Mencei?  And then party leaders ( @Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă, GST and @Breneir Tzaracomprada and @Mic'haglh Autófil, MC EiP  ) would make apologies for their own.  That all sound good to everyone?

@Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu , I was also hoping you would be Doorkeeper and Sergeant at Arms?

I will invite His Majesty to attend, and ask him to serve as Chaplain to deliver the invocation and/or address the Living Cosa with general remarks as sovereign.

Estimat Tuis,

Please forgive the intrusion onto the Cosa floor, but I'll keep it quick.

Very Sorry.  For some reason this thread did not ping me as being spoken to.

I am willing to serve as doorkeeper/sgt at arms.  Also, I am willing to address the body w/ Senatorial regrets.

I have, at this point, sent the Zoom invite via EMAIL to all of the email addresses I was provided (essentially all FreeDem).  If other party leaders want to shoot contacts my way, I can send it over as well.  If there is a closed forum somewhere, I am also willing to post there.

To confirm, we are looking at 11am Eastern Time, 11/20.
I believe it is noon Eastern (11am TST)
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 19, 2022, 11:13:51 PM
Yes, noon EST.

Please post a link in the chat room. I believe that unregistered users cannot see it.
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on November 20, 2022, 12:56:27 AM
One last minute question! I would quite like proceedings to be recorded for posterity, but that might require a vote of the LC or a Túischac'h's ruling?
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Tric'hard Lenxheir on November 20, 2022, 08:04:39 AM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 19, 2022, 11:13:51 PMYes, noon EST.

Please post a link in the chat room. I believe that unregistered users cannot see it.

I don't think I ever received a link to join the Living Cosa. Nor have I seen a link anywhere
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on November 20, 2022, 08:27:51 AM
Ok.  Noon Eastern it is.  I will put the link in the chat room about 30 minutes prior.
Title: Re: Living Cosa Planning
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on November 20, 2022, 09:51:18 AM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on November 20, 2022, 12:56:27 AMOne last minute question! I would quite like proceedings to be recorded for posterity, but that might require a vote of the LC or a Túischac'h's ruling?
It's fine with me. I think that I would be allowed to make this determination, unless someone objects?