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Xheneral/General => Wittenberg => Topic started by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on February 02, 2023, 07:54:26 AM

Title: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on February 02, 2023, 07:54:26 AM
It is with sadness that seventeen citizens have now lost their citizenship due to not having voted or responded to a census for the past two years.

The citizens who have lost their citizenship are:

Mic'haglh Avercül
John Mousely
Raducanu Vasile
Txosuè Veirnarac'h Pologn
Erschéveþ (Ely) da Schir
Hakan Sönmez
Sevastáin Pinátsch
Bitour Scurzniescu
Martì Vataldestreça
Moritz Iesu Preiria Fernaodescu
Aspra Röseta Laira
Magniloqueu Épiqeu Ac'hlerglünä da Lhiun
Thomas Dellaert
Seguxhameir d'Üc
Tric'hard Carschaleir
Vitxalmour Pelbiançéu Conductour
Ups Cotschneu

If this list is inaccurate please let me know. None of them have been marked inactive or had their Witt accounts updated yet.

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Sir Txec dal Nordselvă,
Secretár d'Estat
Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on February 02, 2023, 08:09:03 AM
This list may not be accurate as I've just confirmed that the 55th GE ended in August of 2020, and not August of 2021. I will be updating this list shortly. My apologies.
Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on February 02, 2023, 09:00:26 AM
Oof. That hurts A LOT. Some of these names have significantly contributed to making Talossa more enjoyable.

These lists are never fun, but this has to be the most painful one yet.
Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on February 02, 2023, 09:06:14 AM
Yeah, this is a rough one.
Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: C. M. Siervicül on February 02, 2023, 11:49:35 AM
Zooks, and it sounds like there may be more.
Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on February 02, 2023, 01:22:10 PM
Quote from: C. M. Siervicül on February 02, 2023, 11:49:35 AMZooks, and it sounds like there may be more.

I don't anticipate any more on this list.
Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: Vitxalmour on February 02, 2023, 04:08:00 PM
I hear that Conductour bloke is an absent-minded procrastinator.
Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: C. M. Siervicül on February 02, 2023, 04:15:57 PM
Quote from: Vitxalmour on February 02, 2023, 04:08:00 PMI hear that Conductour bloke is an absent-minded procrastinator.
Get out, you don't belong here anymore!

Seriously, though, you should reactivate your citizenship per Lexh E.14, stat. It's super simple.

Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on February 02, 2023, 04:37:01 PM
Quote from: Vitxalmour on February 02, 2023, 04:08:00 PMI hear that Conductour bloke is an absent-minded procrastinator.


Your citizenship can be easily restored. If you can either confirm your previously used email address or I can verify you are who you say you are, you will be back in the fold.
Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: Dame Litz Cjantscheir, UrN on February 02, 2023, 05:50:28 PM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on February 02, 2023, 01:22:10 PM
Quote from: C. M. Siervicül on February 02, 2023, 11:49:35 AMZooks, and it sounds like there may be more.

I don't anticipate any more on this list.
Hopefully not, it's always sad to see so many once-active Talossans drop off, but our door should always remain open should they ever decide to come home!
Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: Iason Taiwos on February 02, 2023, 11:03:56 PM
Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on February 02, 2023, 04:37:01 PM
Quote from: Vitxalmour on February 02, 2023, 04:08:00 PMI hear that Conductour bloke is an absent-minded procrastinator.


Your citizenship can be easily restored. If you can either confirm your previously used email address or I can verify you are who you say you are, you will be back in the fold.
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Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: Iason Taiwos on February 02, 2023, 11:13:45 PM
I can verify he is who he says he is. If that isn't good enough, then to hell with Talossa. We don't need a bunch of pompous bureaucrats telling us who is and who ain't Talossan.
Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on February 02, 2023, 11:52:29 PM
If you don't vote for 3 elections in a role, your citizenship is not taken, it just vanishes, but can be restored for the asking. If you want to abolish the 3 strikes rule, I tried over and over again over years, but there doesn't seem to be a better way to get people off the citizens' roll if they just lose interest in Talossa and/or drop dead.
Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on February 03, 2023, 05:49:19 AM
Quote from: Iason Taiwos on February 02, 2023, 11:13:45 PMI can verify he is who he says he is. If that isn't good enough, then to hell with Talossa. We don't need a bunch of pompous bureaucrats telling us who is and who ain't Talossan.

I'm simply following the law. Thank you for calling me a pompous bureaucrat. I'm very pleased to be insulted for following the legal process.
Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: C. M. Siervicül on February 03, 2023, 08:17:59 AM
For what it's worth, it's technically not failure to vote in 3 elections ("3 strikes") anymore. It's a two year period without voting or responding to a census. Which happens to coincide with three elections, but you don't have to vote at all if you respond to the census.

I would grant that there is a difference between being Talossan and being a Talossan citizen, but if we're talking citizenship (the right to vote in elections, etc.), who could adjudicate that but bureaucrats?

Regarding the census, from the database it looks like there was a census in 2021, but I never got an email about it, and can't find any Witt threads announcing the census or its results. I did receive a census email in 2020, but apparently one didn't happen that year(!). Did one happen in 2021?
Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on February 03, 2023, 08:22:15 AM
I didn't count the number of missed elections, but the years since the last vote and/or census reply. I believe there was a census in 2021 that happened automatically via some database mechanism in 2021. I was new to the job then and wasn't even aware it had happened until someone asked me about it.
Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on February 03, 2023, 08:33:13 AM
And also for the record, I search OrgLaw and El Lex before I ever take any action or decision related to the Chancery.

I agree with Sir Cresti that one can be Talossan while not legally being able to vote. Trust me I tried to find any reason not to remove citizenship. It's not a joyous task and the one part of General Elections I dread.
Title: Re: [Cantzelerïă/Chancery] It Is With Sadness
Post by: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on March 08, 2023, 01:38:52 PM
I have finished updating (for the third time I might add!) the database and Wittenberg regarding the citizens who lost their citizenship at the end of voting. As a reminder for anyone still on Wittenberg and wishes to reactivate your status, a simple PM confirming your email address is all I need.

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Sir Txec dal Nordselvă,
Secretár d'Estat