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Las Intereçuns Speciais/Special Interests => El Glheþ Talossan => Topic started by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 04, 2023, 07:58:36 PM

Title: Ensegnhetz-se Talossan (Teach Yourself Talossan)
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 04, 2023, 07:58:36 PM
I was talking to s:reu Tafial the other day and I realised the absolute generation gap between us when he told me he'd never seen a "Teach Yourself" (self-study) language book. Before Duolingo and its idiot cousins, that's how we ancient wanna-be polyglots used to fool ourselves into thinking we were learning new languages. :D

Anyway, now we're keen to try to create something similar for ár glheþ. This is actually something which I tried to do back during the National Schism; but when I posted my first trial dialogues, Sir Tomás popped into tell me I'd got the language all wrong, and I was so ashamed I stopped. Anyway, here they are for historical purposes (note ancient 1990s-era orthography):

QuoteEnsegñetz-Së Talossán, Capitél Viêns: Cunfavelaziuns
Ián: Azul! Va nôminâ, c'è Ián. ¿És la voastra?
Juliâ: Azul! Eu sînt Juliâ. Eś qi estetz-voi?
Tomás:  Eu sînt Tomás.
Ián: Méirçi. À revidarë!
Juliâ: À revidarë.

Ián: Eu sînt citaxhiên del Regipäts Talossán. ¿Daduve vetz?
Juliâ: Eu véu dàl Repúblicâ Talossán.
Ián: Tomás, ¿estez-voi Talossán?
Tomás: Non, eu non sînt Talossán. Voi embù estetz Talossáes, ¿oi?
Juliâ és Ián: Üc, noi embù sînt Talossáes.

Carlostâ: Escusetz-me, siôridâ!
Juliâ: ¿Üc...?
Carlostâ: ¿Parletz-voi Talossán!
Juliâ: Üc. Eu parleu Talossán és Angleascâ.
Carlostâ: Grült! Voi parletz ocså Tschec, ¿oi?
Juliâ: Non, va c'hupâ. Eu non parleu Tschec.

Nôminâs dels Glheþen

Talossán; Svensc'heu; Tütsch; Tschec; Francál
Ôirësch; Norvexhán; Talián; Angleascâ; Castetxán


Ensegñhistà: Bunâ ziuâ, siôridâ Juliâ.
Juliâ: Bunâ ziuâ, estimat ensegñhistà. ¿Com'estetz-Voi?
Ensegñhistà: Ben, méirçi. És voi?
Juliâ: Tréi ben, méirçi.
Ensegñistà : Voi vidarhéu crái! À revidarë!
Juliâ : À revidarë, estimat ensegñistà.

Come si zïa în Talossán?

Title: Re: Ensegnhetz-se Talossan (Teach Yourself Talossan)
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on June 05, 2023, 04:57:10 AM
So yeah! Our goal is to write a Teach Yourself Talossan... book? website?

If anyone would like to volunteer, feel free to tell us in this thread!
Title: Re: Ensegnhetz-se Talossan (Teach Yourself Talossan)
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on June 09, 2023, 12:38:26 PM
I started a draft for a Teach Yourself Talossan book a couple of days ago, you can find it here (https://docs.google.com/document/d/14qRLSKfMC0ncnkh6Huw7xEa1jdLQ579KKGfsXEdN3-c/edit?usp=sharing).

Since I'm not sure yet what to even teach, much less in what order to teach it, I ask everyone who is interested in this to help me out. You can post comments and suggestions on the link above. I can't do this alone.
Title: Re: Ensegnhetz-se Talossan (Teach Yourself Talossan)
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 09, 2023, 03:02:10 PM
Is it possible - as a first draft - to simply "calque" the content of an existing _Teach Yourself_ book? Would that Persian text I sent you be an appropriate model? If not, I've got a dozen others at home
Title: Re: Ensegnhetz-se Talossan (Teach Yourself Talossan)
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on June 09, 2023, 03:21:25 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 09, 2023, 03:02:10 PMWould that Persian text I sent you be an appropriate model? If not, I've got a dozen others at home

I've tried basing it on the Persian one as well but the languages are too different at times. And I looked up Teach Yourself French online and that one isnt a good basis either since it barely explains anything as far as I can tell.

Do you have an Italian version or something? Maybe we can work with that.
Title: Re: Ensegnhetz-se Talossan (Teach Yourself Talossan)
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 09, 2023, 06:45:21 PM
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on June 09, 2023, 03:21:25 PMDo you have an Italian version or something? Maybe we can work with that.

In fact, I do - and also something in Spanish. Remind me if I forget this weekend.
Title: Re: Ensegnhetz-se Talossan (Teach Yourself Talossan)
Post by: Iason Taiwos on June 09, 2023, 07:47:58 PM
The Teach Yourself Books usually have accompanying illustrations. Like, the chapter on food/restaurants might have a picture of a chef with plates of particular dishes or cooking ware. My art skills have severely declined from lack of practice, but I would still give it a go to provide illustrations for this endavour. (Don't hold me to it, tho. All I'm saying is, I might try.) Anyhow, I believe I suggested years ago that we needed a "Teach Yourself" kind of thing. (I don't believe for one second that Marcel hadn't ever seen a teach yourself book. Dude has more language books than anybody.)
Title: Re: Ensegnhetz-se Talossan (Teach Yourself Talossan)
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on June 12, 2023, 04:45:16 AM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 09, 2023, 06:45:21 PMIn fact, I do - and also something in Spanish. Remind me if I forget this weekend.

Bump!
Title: Re: Ensegnhetz-se Talossan (Teach Yourself Talossan)
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on July 24, 2023, 03:10:12 PM
Marcel and I have copies of Teach Yourself Italian and Teach Yourself Beginner's Italian. Work has commenced.