With thanks to the new Secretary of State all appointments to Nimlet seats have been completed.
It is my pleasure to announce the commencement of our latest session, on this 1st day of September 2020, of Florencia's provincial legislature, the Nimlet.
Pastours, are there any motions members would like to bring forward for consideration?
RESOLUTION 2020-01
Based on the advice of both the current and former Secretaries of State I
propose the resolution below amending our provincial constitution at Article III, Section 5 (The Government, Composition of the House of Shepherds)This amendment is necessitated by the reticence of The Chancery to complete the additional administrative tasks after the completion of voting as is currently mandated by the Constitution.
Article III, Section 5 currently reads:
QuoteSection 5. Composition of the House of Shepherds.
Whichever authority shall have conducted a provincial election for the whole House of Shepherds, either the Chancery of Talossa or the Constable of Florencia, shall publicly and at the same time, but not later than the tenth day following the certification of the same election:
(a) Determine and fix the total number of seats for the new term of the Shepherds, which number shall be equal to the number of ballots returned in the election, less those returned and indicating "Present", plus one additional seat for each incumbent Senator for Florencia, plus one additional seat for the Governor;
(b) Apportion among those political parties, which have received votes in the election, their respective proportional share of the number of remaining seats with respect to their electoral performance, after the assignments to the Senators and Governor; and
(c) Fix the date for the commencement of the session of the new Nimlet, to be not later than the thirtieth day following the aforesaid certification.
Before or at the commencement of the session of a new Nimlet, and again at any time during the same session, the commonly recognized and known leader of a political party which be entitled to any number of seats in the House of Shepherds shall assign the same in any whole number without personal limit, but only to bona fide citizens of Florencia who remain qualified residents thereof; and such assignments shall be made publicly, given to the Governor of Florencia, and maintained in good faith by him.
Those seats which remain unassigned by a political party shall remain vacant until such assignment be made and received by the Governor.
Those changes by party leaders in the seating assignments, which have been effectuated during a pending resolution of the Shepherds, shall have no effect on the matter; and those votes yet made or already made may be altered before a deadline only by those persons who have held the same seats originally.
If there be a ripe and unmoot controversy with regard to the actual assignment of seats of the Shepherds, the same shall be adjudicated in first instance by the Constable alone; and if a party to it be unsatisfied, an appeal may be made directly to the Uppermost Cort of Talossa, provided that the remedy of the Constable remain in effect until or unless the said court render a judgement.
Be it resolved that Article III, Section 5 is amended to read as follows (changes in bold):
QuoteSection 5. Composition of the House of Shepherds.
No later than the tenth calendar day following the certification of the election, the Governor of Florencia, or in the absence of an incumbent Governor, the Constable of Florencia, shall:
(a) Determine and fix the total number of seats for the new term of the House of Shepherds, which number shall be equal to the number of ballots returned in the election, less those returned and indicating "Present", plus one additional seat for the incumbent Senator for Florencia and for the Governor of Florencia;
(b) Apportion among those political parties, which have received votes in the election, their respective proportional share of the number of remaining seats based on their electoral performance, after the assignments to the Senators and Governor; and
(c) Fix the date for the commencement of the session of the new Nimlet, to be not later than the thirtieth day following the aforesaid certification.
Before or at the commencement of the session of a new Nimlet, and again at any time during the same session, the commonly recognized and known leader of a political party which be entitled to any number of seats in the House of Shepherds shall assign the same in any whole number without personal limit, but only to bona fide citizens of Florencia who remain qualified residents thereof; and such assignments shall be made publicly, given to the Governor of Florencia, and maintained in good faith.
Those seats which remain unassigned by a political party shall remain vacant until such assignment be made and received by the Governor.
Those changes by party leaders in the seating assignments, which have been effectuated during a pending resolution of the House of Shepherds, shall have no effect on the matter; and those votes yet made or already made may be altered before a deadline only by those persons who have held the same seats originally.
If there be a ripe controversy with regard to the actual assignment of seats of the House of Shepherds, the controversy shall be adjudicated in the first instance by the Governor alone; and if a party to it be unsatisfied, an appeal may be made directly to the Uppermost Cort of Talossa, provided that the remedy of the Governor remain in effect until or unless the said court render a judgement.
Voting will close at 9:00AM TST on September 15th, 2020.Submitted by Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia; Member-House of Shepherds
I vote PER on Resolution 2020-01
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-01. It has passed with
8 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition.
Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-01 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Constable.
@King John, please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is
9:00am TST, September 29, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto the Resolution will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
Resolution 2020-02
Resolution 2020-02 is presented to propose a new provincial day of observance in Florencia.
With the promulgation of the province's third constitution, mere weeks ago, Florencia is experiencing a renewal of activity and civic spirit.
Provincial Day of Observance – Florencia DayQuoteInspired by this zeitgeist, this resolution proposes the creation of Florencia Day to be observed annually by Florencians on the day of the province's creation, 1 September. Suggested methods for celebrating Florencia Day include display of the provincial flag and emblem, public readings of the provincial constitution, singing of the provincial anthem, or visiting provincial landmarks.
Voting closes at 9:00AM TST on September 30, 2020Submitted by Breneir Itravilatx (Florencia Governor, Member-House of Shepherds)
I vote PER on Resolution 2020-02
I was rather uninspired and unmotivated to speak before now, in part because a single person controls a supermajority of seats in this new term of the Shepherds and it was hence a wasted effort during a busy day to log in, think, write a reply, and hit 'post'.
That said, this amendment to our provincial constitution is a travesty. Talk about the death of democracy.
When I wrote these original provisos, I wrote them specifically so that the person who may benefit most from jockeying with seat assignments, i.e. the Governor, is not the same person getting to run or oversee the election that determines those same seat assignments. To say that it is a conflict of interest is an understatement.
But worse, you wrote this amendment so that any challenge to the seat assignments has to be adjudicated by the Governor directly, rather than the Constable, the Uppermost Cort, or literally any other third party who has nothing to gain or lose by the outcome. In effect, whosoever becomes the Governor can very well ensure that they stay in control of the Nimlet and, by extension, remain the Governor forever.
It does not matter whether these are "likely" or "plausible"; the fact that it is possible is the issue entirely.
If this were not evidence of a powermove to ensure total ideological domination of Florencia, then I don't know what would be.
An utter disaster.
I vote PER on Resolution 2020-02.
Quote from: Açafat del Val on September 17, 2020, 11:50:41 AM
I vote PER on Resolution 2020-02.
As to Resolution 2020-02, with the vote of the only other remaining member of the House of Shepherds now cast I would ask if there is objection to closing the voting period early. If there is no response to this inquiry then I will leave the voting period open to the original expiry date just in case.
Breneir
The law is pretty clear: even with unanimous support, we'll have to wait till the deadline has passed.
That is a fair and reasonable point, I had assumed there would be some flexibility but the new Constitution does not appear to have allowed for it. Vote closing date (edited to add: for Resolution 2020-02) remains 9:00am TST September 30, 2020 then.
I rise to submit a petition to the Talossan Sovereign,
@King John Article III, Section 1 of the Constitution of Florencia reads as follows:QuoteSection 1. The Constable.
The Sovereign of Talossa is represented in the province and attends to provincial affairs through a Constable, or in Talossan "Cunstavál", who shall be appointed in accordance with the Organic Law.
If the office of the Constable be ever vacant or generally unattended, the Governor shall petition without delay that the Sovereign appoint a new Constable and shall repeat this petition so often as may be necessary to effectuate the appointment.
The Sovereign shall assume all powers and duties of the Constable while the latter office be vacant.
The position of Constable is currently vacant and this petition is submitted as an early effort to ensure we have an active and cooperative relationship between the Sovereign and Florencia's provincial government.
Therefore, as Governor, I officially petition
@King John to appoint a new Constable.
This is the first submission of this petition to the Sovereign.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
Governor of Florencia
It is my honor to submit
Resolution 2020-03 for consideration by the House of Shepherds.
QuoteThe Order of Florencia
Florencia joins our sister subdivisions of Cezembre and Benito in creating an award to honor citizens who have made exceptional contributions to the province.
The House of Shepherds resolves to create a new provincial honor to be known as the Order of Florencia.
• Recipients of the honor may use the postnomial "O.Fl" and to go by the titles Sir, Dame, or the gender neutral Miscellus (Misc).
• When awarded the new provincial honor recipients shall be selected in a cooperative fashion by the Constable and Governor. Recipients may also be privately submitted to the Constable and/or Governor by a petition representing an absolute majority of votes in the House of Shepherds.
• Recipients shall be announced in a joint statement by the Constable and Governor, as a part of Florencia Day celebrations.
Voting closes at 9:00AM TST on October 6, 2020Submitted by Breneir Itravilatx (Florencia Governor, Member-House of Shepherds)
I'd like to vote PER; my only concern is that the order be granted "as a part of Florencia Day". Could this not be granted on any regular day, or at least any general day of significance? Seems odd to restrict this to one day of 365.
Quote from: Açafat del Val on September 22, 2020, 08:36:33 AM
I'd like to vote PER; my only concern is that the order be granted "as a part of Florencia Day". Could this not be granted on any regular day, or at least any general day of significance? Seems odd to restrict this to one day of 365.
The House of Shepherds, Governor, and Constable are free to conduct preparatory work for the granting of the honors on any other day or days of the year. But the setting of the announcement date in connection with a new day of observance to celebrate Florencia doesn't seem all that odd. On the day in which we celebrate Florencia we announce honors for those who have contributed to Florencia.
Fair enough. I'm still of the opinion that these rewards ought to be allowed to be granted on any day with enough notice, even if it'd be better to do so on the actual Florencia Day. But perhaps I can introduce my own resolution amending the law, what having the two wee seats here that I have ;)
In any case, I vote PER on Resolution 2020-03.
Quote from: Açafat del Val on September 22, 2020, 11:35:13 AM
Fair enough. I'm still of the opinion that these rewards ought to be allowed to be granted on any day with enough notice, even if it'd be better to do so on the actual Florencia Day. But perhaps I can introduce my own resolution amending the law, what having the two wee seats here that I have ;)
In any case, I vote PER on Resolution 2020-03.
Just as a heads up. Should you propose an amending resolution allowing the award to be granted on any day with enough notice then I will gladly support it.
I vote PER on Resolution 2020-03
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on September 15, 2020, 01:00:27 PM
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-01. It has passed with 8 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition.
Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-01 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Constable. @King John, please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is 9:00am TST, September 29, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto the Resolution will be considered approved.
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Breneir Itravilatx
The period for consideration by the Constable has now closed.
I note there has been no response from
@King John (the responsible party since the office of Constable is vacant).
Therefore,
Resolution 2020-01 is deemed approved and the Constitution is amended as set forth in the Resolution.
Voting has now closed on
Resolution 2020-02. It has passed with
10 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition.Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-02 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Constable.
@King John, please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is
9:00am TST, October 14, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto the Resolution will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
Resolution 2020-04
QuoteThe Resubmitted Dominance of Order Act
WHEREAS during a former less active period of Florencia's Nimlet, S:da Cjara Brainerd proposed the following resolution which did not receive due consideration, and
WHEREAS everyone likes order, and there is no more lovely thing than a book of rules and a deck of cards, where each card has no numerical value, and
WHEREAS Set is just such a game involving a deck of 81 cards and if one card goes missing you have to spend upwards of 12 louise to buy a whole new game, and
WHEREAS the deck is built of cards that you have to try and order, not by type or number or color, but by matching a 'set' of three cards that have the same number of differences, and
WHEREAS Set with, its odd number of cards having three colors, three shapes, three different kinds of shading, and three number patterns clearly reflects order, and
WHEREAS Set isn't really a game anything like orderly as you don't take turns and you routinely end up with an odd number of cards left over, now
THEREFORE be it enacted by the Nimlet of the Province of Florencia, that this great province does hereby take Set under the metaphorical Florencian wing, take note of the fact that it is just good commerce at 12 louise (15 dollars) that the thing can get rendered completely worthless by the loss of a single card, and does hereby make Set the official game of Florencia.
Voting will close at 9:00AM TST on October 20th, 2020.Submitted by Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia; Member-House of Shepherds
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-03. It has passed with
10 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition.Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-03 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Constable.
@King John, please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is
9:00am TST, October 21, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto the Resolution will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
I abstain on Resolution 2020-04. I support the idea but find the wording a little bloated and do not have the intention to offer an amendment.
I vote PER on Resolution 2020-04.
Resolution 2020-05
Constitutional Amendment on Article IV, Section 3 and the addition of a new Section immediately followingWHEREAS, there is currently no constitutional provision designating a period of non-voting consideration of resolutions submitted to the House of Shepherds, and
WHEREAS, a designated period of review can allow an official route to the consideration of questions and/or amendments before the commencement of the voting period, now
THEREFORE, be it resolved, the Constitution of Florencia is amended to include a new section between
Article IV, Sections 3 and 4 (would become 5 with passage of this amendment). It would read as follows:
QuoteSection 4. Review of Resolutions by House of Shepherds
Before commencement of voting, resolutions submitted to the House of Shepherds shall undergo a minimum seven (7) day period of review by members of the House of Shepherds. During this period of review questions and amendments may be submitted by members of the House of Shepherds. Amendments to resolutions are not subject to the same Constitutional restrictions on consideration as regular resolutions.
Be it further resolved that Section 3 is amended to read:
QuoteSection 3. Deadlines for Final Votes in the House of Shepherds.
Whosoever may introduce a resolution to be considered by the House of Shepherds, shall establish at the same time a deadline by which all final votes thereon shall be made.
The deadline for the final votes on a resolution of the Nimlet, as established by its author or primary sponsor, shall be not later than the scheduled termination of the session of the same Nimlet, nor earlier than the fourteenth calendar day following the date of its introduction and the end of the period of review.
Voting will close at 9:00AM TST on October 24th, 2020.
Submitted by Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia; Member-House of Shepherds
I vote PER on Resolution 2020-05.
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on September 30, 2020, 09:45:19 AM
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-02. It has passed with 10 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition.
Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-02 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Constable. @King John, please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is 9:00am TST, October 14, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto the Resolution will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
The period for consideration by the Constable or King has now closed.
I note there has been no response from
@King John (the responsible party since the office of Constable is vacant).
Therefore, Resolution 2020-02 is deemed approved.
The province now has a new Day of Observance on each 1 September known as Florencia Day.
I vote PER on Resolution 2020-05.
Resolution 2020-06
QuoteNew Provincial Citizen Welcome
WHEREAS, Florencia, like many of Talossa's provinces has faced the perennial challenge of inactivity, and
WHEREAS, one potential solution is to conduct outreach to incoming new citizens and connect them with opportunities to participate in the province's affairs, and
WHEREAS, early contact between provincial leaders and incoming new citizens may also lead to greater knowledge of new citizen skills and interests.
Therefore, be it resolved, that Florencia's provincial officers of state (Constable and Governor) are encouraged to jointly and/or individually welcome new provincial citizens. This welcome message should be delivered to the new provincial citizen within seven (7) calendar days of the Secretary of State's certification of citizenship. Minimum suggested methods of welcome are via Wittenberg private message or non-Wittenberg email. Minimum suggested components of the welcome message include general information or directions to general information about the province.
Voting will close at 9:00AM TST on October 30th, 2020.Submitted by Breneir Itravilatx
Governor of Florencia
Member, House of Shepherds
I abstain on 2020-06.
I vote PER on Resolution 2020-06.
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-04. It has passed with
8 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition, 2 abstentions.Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-04 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Regent since the office of Constable is currently vacant.
@Sir Alexandreu Davinescu please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is
9:00am TST, November 4, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto of the Resolution it will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on October 20, 2020, 12:17:38 PM
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-04. It has passed with 8 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition, 2 abstentions.
Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-04 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Regent since the office of Constable is currently vacant. @Sir Alexandreu Davinescu please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is 9:00am TST, November 4, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto of the Resolution it will be considered approved.
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Breneir Itravilatx
Com'el rexhaint per la Coronă, aprovéu acest proxhect da legeu.
Acting on behalf of the crown, I hereby issue my approval in the name of King John acting in the person of his cunstaval for the resolution in question, and thank the Nimlet for its good service.
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on October 06, 2020, 09:06:06 AM
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-03. It has passed with 10 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition.
Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-03 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Constable. @King John, please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is 9:00am TST, October 21, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto the Resolution will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
Regent
@Sir Alexandreu Davinescu, Resolution 2020-03 is also in need of review.
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on October 20, 2020, 02:14:27 PM
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on October 06, 2020, 09:06:06 AM
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-03. It has passed with 10 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition.
Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-03 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Constable. @King John, please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is 9:00am TST, October 21, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto the Resolution will be considered approved.
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Breneir Itravilatx
Regent @Sir Alexandreu Davinescu, Resolution 2020-03 is also in need of review.
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Com'el rexhaint per la Coronă, aprovéu acest proxhect da legeu.
Acting on behalf of the crown, I hereby issue my approval in the name of King John acting in the person of his cunstaval for the resolution in question, and thank the Nimlet for its good service.
—
Sir Alexandreu, Rexhaint d'Ian Regeu
Resolution 2020-07WHEREAS, during presentation and start of voting on Resolution 2020-03 a good point was made by Shepherd and Senator del Val, and
WHEREAS, that point concerned not restricting the awarding of the new provincial honors to only one day of the year, and
WHEREAS, there was no option to amend the provincial honors resolution at the time of its presentation to the House of Shepherds.
THEREFORE, be it resolved, that Resolution 2020-03 is amended-
where it reads:
QuoteRecipients shall be announced in a joint statement by the Constable and Governor, as a part of Florencia Day celebrations.
to read as follows:
QuoteRecipients shall be announced in a joint statement by the Constable and Governor.
Voting will close at 9:00AM TST on November 7th, 2020.Submitted by Breneir Itravilatx
Governor of Florencia
Member, House of Shepherds
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-05. It has passed with
10 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition.Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-05 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Constable. Seeing that the office of Constable is currently vacant,
@Sir Alexandreu Davinescu, please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is
9:00am TST, November 9, 2020. Should the Constable or other responsible authority fail to issue an Approval or Veto the Resolution it will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on October 25, 2020, 04:34:03 AM
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-05. It has passed with 10 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition.
Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-05 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Constable. Seeing that the office of Constable is currently vacant, @Sir Alexandreu Davinescu, please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is 9:00am TST, November 9, 2020. Should the Constable or other responsible authority fail to issue an Approval or Veto the Resolution it will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
(https://i.imgur.com/rALrT2a.png)
Com'el rexhaint per la Coronă, aprovéu acest proxhect da legeu.
Acting on behalf of the crown, I hereby issue my approval in the name of King John acting in the person of his cunstaval for the resolution in question, and thank the Nimlet for its good service.
—
Sir Alexandreu, Rexhaint d'Ian Regeu
Resolution 2020-08
Constitutional Amendment on Article IV, Section 3WHEREAS, there is no mechanism in the Constitution to end voting before the designated deadline even if all shepherds have voted.
THEREFORE, be it resolved, that the House of Shepherds hereby amends Article IV, Section 3 of the Florencian Constitution as follows:
QuoteSection 3. Deadlines for Final Votes in the House of Shepherds.
Whosoever may introduce a resolution to be considered by the House of Shepherds, shall establish at the same time a deadline by which all final votes thereon shall be made.
The deadline for the final votes on a resolution of the Nimlet, as established by its author or primary sponsor, shall be not later than the scheduled termination of the session of the same Nimlet, nor earlier than the fourteenth calendar day following the end of the period of review.
is amended to read:
QuoteSection 3. Deadlines for Final Votes in the House of Shepherds.
Whosoever may introduce a resolution to be considered by the House of Shepherds, shall establish at the same time a deadline by which all final votes thereon shall be made.
The deadline for the final votes on a resolution of the Nimlet, as established by its author or primary sponsor, shall be not later than the scheduled termination of the session of the same Nimlet, nor earlier than the fourteenth calendar day following the end of the period of review. Should all members of the House of Shepherds cast votes before the end of the designated voting deadline then the Governor or another member of the House of Shepherds may request the early termination of the voting period. If there is no objection within a twenty-four (24) hour period then the request shall be considered approved and the voting period is terminated early.
The period of review will close at 9:00AM TST on November 4th, 2020.Submitted by Breneir Itravilatx
Governor of Florencia
Member, House of Shepherds
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-06. It has passed with
8 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition, 2 abstentions.
Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-06 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Regent since the office of Constable is currently vacant.
@Sir Alexandreu Davinescu please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is
9:00am TST, November 14, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto of the Resolution it will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on October 30, 2020, 01:24:47 PM
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-06. It has passed with 8 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition, 2 abstentions.
Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-06 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Regent since the office of Constable is currently vacant. @Sir Alexandreu Davinescu please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is 9:00am TST, November 14, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto of the Resolution it will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
(https://i.imgur.com/rALrT2a.png)
Com'el rexhaint per la Coronă, aprovéu acest proxhect da legeu.
Acting on behalf of the crown, I hereby issue my approval in the name of King John acting in the person of his cunstaval for the resolution in question, and thank the Nimlet for its good service. Y'all busy!
—
Sir Alexandreu, Rexhaint d'Ian Regeu
I vote PER on Resolution 2020-07.
The period of review has now closed on Resolution 2020-08.
We now move forward to voting.
Voting will close at 9:00AM TST on November 19th, 2020.
I vote PER on Resolution 2020-08.
I think you may have made a typo, sir. You voted on 2020-07 twice. You probably meant to vote PER on 2020-08?
I'd like to be a pedant and finagle with the wording of 2020-08, more so that it conforms with the same style/voice of other areas, but it's probably fine all the same.
I vote PER on 2020-07, and abstain on 2020-08.
(Small PSA to anyone who just read my Nimlet vote and thought, "Why does this bastard have time for the Nimlet but not for me and the messages that I have sent him over two weeks?": I have scheduled 5 hours on Sunday to catch up on everything Talossan, continue movement on several projects, and carry on my other official duties. This Nimlet vote has a hard deadline that I did not want to miss. I will respond to everyone/everything on Sunday!)
Quote from: Açafat del Val on November 05, 2020, 04:48:06 PM
I think you may have made a typo, sir. You voted on 2020-07 twice. You probably meant to vote PER on 2020-08?
I'd like to be a pedant and finagle with the wording of 2020-08, more so that it conforms with the same style/voice of other areas, but it's probably fine all the same.
I vote PER on 2020-07, and abstain on 2020-08.
Indeed I did. I have corrected the typo. Thanks.
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-07. It has passed with
10 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition.Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-07 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Regent since the office of Constable is currently vacant.
@Sir Alexandreu Davinescu please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is
9:00am TST, November 22, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto of the Resolution it will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on November 07, 2020, 09:04:08 AM
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-07. It has passed with 10 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition.
Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-07 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Regent since the office of Constable is currently vacant. @Sir Alexandreu Davinescu please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is 9:00am TST, November 22, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto of the Resolution it will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
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Com'el rexhaint per la Coronă, aprovéu acest proxhect da legeu.
Acting on behalf of the crown, I hereby issue my approval in the name of King John acting in the person of his cunstaval for the resolution in question, and thank the Nimlet for its good service.
—
Sir Alexandreu, Rexhaint d'Ian Regeu
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-08. It has passed with
8 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition, 2 abstentions.Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-08 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Regent since the office of Constable is currently vacant.
@Sir Alexandreu Davinescu please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is
9:00am TST, December 4, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto of the Resolution it will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on November 19, 2020, 11:25:20 AM
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-08. It has passed with 8 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition, 2 abstentions.
Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-08 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Regent since the office of Constable is currently vacant. @Sir Alexandreu Davinescu please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is 9:00am TST, December 4, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto of the Resolution it will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
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Com'el rexhaint per la Coronă, aprovéu acest proxhect da legeu.
Acting on behalf of the crown, I hereby issue my approval in the name of King John acting in the person of his cunstaval for the resolution in question, and thank the Nimlet for its good service.
— Sir Alexandreu, Rexhaint d'Ian Regeu
Resolution 2020-09
WHEREAS, there is a constant need for the updating of Florencia's information on the Kingdom's official website and TalossaWIKI, and
WHEREAS, there are some Florencians who may not frequent Wittenberg—or the above-mentioned sites—as much as others necessitating the need for alternative forms of informing them on provincial activities.
THEREFORE the Governor or someone appointed by the Governor shall be responsible for drafting and disseminating an Annual Government Gazette consisting of the following information via email in cooperation with the Chancery:
1) all provincial legislation approved in the session immediately preceding (and of the current session) the Gazette's publishing, and
2) a list of all members and their party affiliation in the House of Shepherds, and
3) a list of current provincial officials (Governor, Senator, and Constable).
The period of review will close at 9:00AM TST on December 5th, 2020.
Submitted by Breneir Itravilatx
Governor of Florencia
Member, House of Shepherds
The period of review has now closed on Resolution 2020-09.
We now move forward to voting.
Voting will close at 9:00AM TST on December 20th, 2020.
I vote PER on Resolution 2020-09.
Resolution 2020-10
Constitutional Amendment on Article VI, Section 2 (Resolutions of the Nimlet)
Whereas, it is common for the right to introduce legislation to be restricted to actual members of that legislative body, and
Therefore, Article IV, Section 2 of the Florencian constitution which currently reads:
QuoteSection 2. Resolutions of the Nimlet.
All legislative measures of Florencia having the effect of statute or bearing the force of the law shall be made and passed by the Nimlet only in the form of a resolution. The right to introduce a resolution of the Nimlet shall be reserved exclusively to the Constable and to the members of the House of Shepherds, and all such resolutions shall be introduced solely in the House of Shepherds for their consideration.
is amended to read:
QuoteSection 2. Resolutions of the Nimlet.
All legislative measures of Florencia having the effect of statute or bearing the force of the law shall be made and passed by the Nimlet only in the form of a resolution. The right to introduce a resolution of the Nimlet shall be reserved exclusively to members of the House of Shepherds, and all such resolutions shall be introduced solely in the House of Shepherds for their consideration.
The period of review will close at
9:00AM TST on December 27th, 2020.Submitted by Breneir Itravilatx
Governor of Florencia
Member, House of Shepherds
Voting has now closed on
Resolution 2020-09. It has passed with
8 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition.Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-09 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Regent since the office of Constable is currently vacant.
@Sir Alexandreu Davinescu please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is
9:00am TST, December 28, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto of the Resolution it will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
I rise to resubmit this petition to the Sovereign
@King John and his Regent
@Sir Alexandreu Davinescu Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on September 17, 2020, 02:12:20 PM
I rise to submit a petition to the Talossan Sovereign, @King John
Article III, Section 1 of the Constitution of Florencia reads as follows:
QuoteSection 1. The Constable.
The Sovereign of Talossa is represented in the province and attends to provincial affairs through a Constable, or in Talossan "Cunstavál", who shall be appointed in accordance with the Organic Law.
If the office of the Constable be ever vacant or generally unattended, the Governor shall petition without delay that the Sovereign appoint a new Constable and shall repeat this petition so often as may be necessary to effectuate the appointment.
The Sovereign shall assume all powers and duties of the Constable while the latter office be vacant.
The position of Constable is currently vacant and this petition is submitted as an early effort to ensure we have an active and cooperative relationship between the Sovereign and Florencia's provincial government.
Therefore, as Governor, I officially petition @King John to appoint a new Constable.
This is the first submission of this petition to the Sovereign.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
Governor of Florencia
Resolution 2020-11Constitutional amendment on Article III, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution
Whereas, this resolution is intended to amend the Florencian Constitution so that the Governor may resign some seats while remaining a member of the House of Shepherds and therefore continue as Governor.
Therefore, Article III, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution which currently reads:
QuoteSection 6. The Governor.
The executive powers of the province shall be vested in a singular Governor, or in Talossan "Governadéir", who shall:
(a) Be the presiding officer of the House of Shepherds, and have by right of such office one mandatory and equal seat there;
(b) Resolve all parliamentary questions in the House of Shepherds, and take care that their business be undertaken in good and honorable manner;
(c) Keep and make publicly available the text of all laws of Florencia, in conjunction with the Scribery of Talossa;
(d) Take care that the laws of Talossa and Florencia be enforced faithfully; and
(e) Represent the province in any and all judicial actions to which it be a party.
He may declare the continuation of the current Nimlet through any single General Election whenever the same be occasioned by the premature dissolution of a Cosa, but only if such declaration be made within one week of the aforesaid dissolution; and no such continuation may be made for two consecutive General Elections. If the Governor choose to vacate any seat which he may hold in the House of Shepherds, the same shall be construed as resignation from the office of Governor.
is amended to read:
QuoteSection 6. The Governor.
The executive powers of the province shall be vested in a singular Governor, or in Talossan "Governadéir", who shall:
(a) Be the presiding officer of the House of Shepherds, and have by right of such office one mandatory and equal seat there;
(b) Resolve all parliamentary questions in the House of Shepherds, and take care that their business be undertaken in good and honorable manner;
(c) Keep and make publicly available the text of all laws of Florencia, in conjunction with the Scribery of Talossa;
(d) Take care that the laws of Talossa and Florencia be enforced faithfully; and
(e) Represent the province in any and all judicial actions to which it be a party.
He may declare the continuation of the current Nimlet through any single General Election whenever the same be occasioned by the premature dissolution of a Cosa, but only if such declaration be made within one week of the aforesaid dissolution; and no such continuation may be made for two consecutive General Elections. If the Governor chooses to vacate all seats which he may hold in the House of Shepherds, thus no longer being a member of the House of Shepherds, the same shall be construed as resignation from the office of Governor.
The period of review will close at
9:00AM TST on January 3rd, 2021.Submitted by Breneir Itravilatx
Governor of Florencia
Member, House of Shepherds
The period of review has now closed on Resolution 2020-10.
We now move forward to voting.
Voting will close at 9:00AM TST on January 4th, 2021.
I vote PER on Resolution 2020-10
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on December 21, 2020, 05:24:16 AM
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-09. It has passed with 8 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition.
Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-09 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Regent since the office of Constable is currently vacant. @Sir Alexandreu Davinescu please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is 9:00am TST, December 28, 2020. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto of the Resolution it will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
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Com'el rexhaint per la Coronă, aprovéu acest proxhect da legeu.
Acting on behalf of the crown, I hereby issue my approval in the name of King John acting in the person of his cunstaval for the resolution in question, and thank the Nimlet for its good service.
— Sir Alexandreu, Rexhaint d'Ian Regeu
I vote a strenuous NO to 2020-10 and 2020-11.
Clearly by the end of this term the Constitution of Florencia will cease to be, and become instead the Constitution of Breneir.
I will point out again that, when I undertook the rewriting of our provincial constitution at this time last year, I made a point to include interested parties in advance and to seek their input and feedback. Dropping things off in the Nimlet is not equal or comparable.
These changes are piecemeal. If you are so adamant about removing the Constable's ability to introduce legislation, then you should also make several other changes so that Florencia is not some broken frankenstein between parliamentary and presidential frames of government.
It is unconscionable that Florencia would recognize an unelected representative of the King as its head of the province, but then relegate the Constable to being a figurehead. PLUS - and this is frankly more important - the Organic Law of Talossa requires that the Constable have virtually the same rights in the province as the King has in the nation. Removing the Constable's ability to introduce legislation is inOrganic.
And we should allow the Governor to resign from the office but keep seats in the House? Absurd. The office of the Governor is supposed to be a position of incredible honor; by allowing someone to resign one but keep the other, it cheapens the role. PLUS - and this is frankly more important - the Governor is granted seats ex officio. What sort of weird games are we going to allow if a Governor could hypothetically keep some seats but resign others, in order to play around with the seat assignments? The very seat assignments, I will remind, that you amended constitutionally so that the Governor now has unilateral control over them.
Your unilateral changes to our constitution - because, let's be honest, you're certainly not seeking feedback from anyone outside yourself or the LCC - are more than cosmetic. You are changing things dangerously and drastically, in order recreate Florenica into a province of one man; whosoever may become the Governor would be a tyrant.
Undemocratic, unfair, and ill-advised.
Seeing that Resolution 2020-10 has been voted on by all members of the House of Shepherds I make a request under Article IV, Section 3 of our province's Constitution that the voting period be terminated early.
If there is no objection, voting will close early at 8:00PM TST December 29th, 2020.
Is there objection to closing the voting period early?
Quote from: Açafat del Val on December 28, 2020, 01:54:25 PM
I vote a strenuous NO to 2020-10 and 2020-11.
Clearly by the end of this term the Constitution of Florencia will cease to be, and become instead the Constitution of Breneir.
I will point out again that, when I undertook the rewriting of our provincial constitution at this time last year, I made a point to include interested parties in advance and to seek their input and feedback. Dropping things off in the Nimlet is not equal or comparable.
These changes are piecemeal. If you are so adamant about removing the Constable's ability to introduce legislation, then you should also make several other changes so that Florencia is not some broken frankenstein between parliamentary and presidential frames of government.
It is unconscionable that Florencia would recognize an unelected representative of the King as its head of the province, but then relegate the Constable to being a figurehead. PLUS - and this is frankly more important - the Organic Law of Talossa requires that the Constable have virtually the same rights in the province as the King has in the nation. Removing the Constable's ability to introduce legislation is inOrganic.
And we should allow the Governor to resign from the office but keep seats in the House? Absurd. The office of the Governor is supposed to be a position of incredible honor; by allowing someone to resign one but keep the other, it cheapens the role. PLUS - and this is frankly more important - the Governor is granted seats ex officio. What sort of weird games are we going to allow if a Governor could hypothetically keep some seats but resign others, in order to play around with the seat assignments? The very seat assignments, I will remind, that you amended constitutionally so that the Governor now has unilateral control over them.
Your unilateral changes to our constitution - because, let's be honest, you're certainly not seeking feedback from anyone outside yourself or the LCC - are more than cosmetic. You are changing things dangerously and drastically, in order recreate Florenica into a province of one man; whosoever may become the Governor would be a tyrant.
Undemocratic, unfair, and ill-advised.
Pastour/Senator del Val,
Resolution 2020-11 has not yet reach the voting period.
It is currently being scrutinized during a period of review.
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on December 28, 2020, 06:38:40 PM
Seeing that Resolution 2020-10 has been voted on by all members of the House of Shepherds I make a request under Article IV, Section 3 of our province's Constitution that the voting period be terminated early.
If there is no objection, voting will close early at 8:00PM TST December 29th, 2020.
Is there objection to closing the voting period early?
Seeing that 24 hours has passed without an objection, voting is terminated early for Resolution 2020-10.Resolution 2020-10 is approved by a vote of
8 votes in favor, 2 votes in opposition. Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-10 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Constable. Seeing that the office of Constable is currently vacant,
@Sir Alexandreu Davinescu, please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is
9:00am TST, January 6, 2021. Should the Constable or other responsible authority fail to issue an Approval or Veto the Resolution it will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on December 29, 2020, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on December 28, 2020, 06:38:40 PM
Seeing that Resolution 2020-10 has been voted on by all members of the House of Shepherds I make a request under Article IV, Section 3 of our province's Constitution that the voting period be terminated early.
If there is no objection, voting will close early at 8:00PM TST December 29th, 2020.
Is there objection to closing the voting period early?
Seeing that 24 hours has passed without an objection, voting is terminated early for Resolution 2020-10.
Resolution 2020-10 is approved by a vote of 8 votes in favor, 2 votes in opposition.
Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-10 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Constable. Seeing that the office of Constable is currently vacant, @Sir Alexandreu Davinescu, please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is 9:00am TST, January 6, 2021. Should the Constable or other responsible authority fail to issue an Approval or Veto the Resolution it will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
(https://i.imgur.com/rALrT2a.png)
Com'el rexhaint per la Coronă, refuçéu va sancziun à'cest proxhect da legeu es perventüră exerciçéu l'impidamaintsch rexhital.
Acting as regent for the Crown, I refuse my assent to this bill and herewith exercise the royal veto. I cannot approve the elimination of the power of the royal constable to introduce legislation, which is a useful element of the custodial role of the throne. I regret that I failed to register my objection on behalf of the Crown before this moment, and offer my apologies for failing to work with you to find a solution that was mutually agreeable. If it is suitable to the House of Shepherds, I would like to reintroduce this bill immediately and open it once more for discussion.
— Sir Alexandreu, Rexhaint d'Ian Regeu
Quote from: Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on December 30, 2020, 07:44:41 PM
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on December 29, 2020, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on December 28, 2020, 06:38:40 PM
Seeing that Resolution 2020-10 has been voted on by all members of the House of Shepherds I make a request under Article IV, Section 3 of our province's Constitution that the voting period be terminated early.
If there is no objection, voting will close early at 8:00PM TST December 29th, 2020.
Is there objection to closing the voting period early?
Seeing that 24 hours has passed without an objection, voting is terminated early for Resolution 2020-10.
Resolution 2020-10 is approved by a vote of 8 votes in favor, 2 votes in opposition.
Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-10 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Constable. Seeing that the office of Constable is currently vacant, @Sir Alexandreu Davinescu, please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is 9:00am TST, January 6, 2021. Should the Constable or other responsible authority fail to issue an Approval or Veto the Resolution it will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
(https://i.imgur.com/rALrT2a.png)
Com'el rexhaint per la Coronă, refuçéu va sancziun à'cest proxhect da legeu es perventüră exerciçéu l'impidamaintsch rexhital.
Acting as regent for the Crown, I refuse my assent to this bill and herewith exercise the royal veto. I cannot approve the elimination of the power of the royal constable to introduce legislation, which is a useful element of the custodial role of the throne. I regret that I failed to register my objection on behalf of the Crown before this moment, and offer my apologies for failing to work with you to find a solution that was mutually agreeable. If it is suitable to the House of Shepherds, I would like to reintroduce this bill immediately and open it once more for discussion.
— Sir Alexandreu, Rexhaint d'Ian Regeu
I thank the Regent for his comments and notification of his
exercising of the Veto for Resolution 2020-10.The Regent, acting as the Constabulatory authority, has requested reintroduction the bill immediately.
Under Article IV, Section 6 of Florencia's Constitution, I present Resolution 2020-10 again for consideration.
The period of review will end at
9:00AM January 8th, 2021.The deadline for legislative re-consideration, as specified in the aforementioned section of the Constitution, is
9:00AM January 17th, 2021.
Thank you and I apologize again for the abruptness.
So as I read this, the general idea is that only members of the legislature should be allowed to introduce legislation, and the impetus is based on a general principle along those lines? Is that something you feel strongly about?
Quote from: Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on December 31, 2020, 01:49:55 PM
Thank you and I apologize again for the abruptness.
So as I read this, the general idea is that only members of the legislature should be allowed to introduce legislation, and the impetus is based on a general principle along those lines? Is that something you feel strongly about?
I do not intend to speak for or on the behalf of the Governor, but having asked a similar question a year ago when he and I were working in Google Docs on the eventual constitutional reform, it is my understanding that he opposes the idea in principle. That is to say, in his belief, the Constable is not a legislator, should have not undue influence on the legislature and, therefore, should lack the ability to introduce legislation at all.
Of course, I
agree with the principle - I am a republican, after all, and oppose the existence of the Constable in the first place - but the Organic Law is pretty clear on which powers the Constable must necessarily possess. Moreover, I detest inconsistency and broken constitutions more than I detest a mostly powerless Constable, so if we are going to remove the Constable's ability to introduce legislation, then it should come with other reforms or not happen at all.
Quote from: Breneir Itravilatx on December 28, 2020, 06:42:51 PM
Pastour/Senator del Val,
Resolution 2020-11 has not yet reach the voting period.
It is currently being scrutinized during a period of review.
I am cognizant and appreciate that the tone of my written words tends to appear hostile, so I want to clarify that I am meaning to fight the argument and not the person.
To the extent that I may be unable to return to Wittenberg whenever the voting period begins, I hope that the Governor will recognize my vote on Resolution 2020-11 and count it in the final tally.
The period of review has now closed on Resolution 2020-11.
We now move forward to voting.
Voting will close at 9:00AM TST on January 13th, 2021.
I vote PER on Resolution 2020-11
The second period of review has now closed on Resolution 2020-10.
We now move forward to voting.
Voting will close at 9:00AM TST on January 15th, 2021.
I vote PER on Resolution 2020-10
So, to be clear, we did not make any changes to 2020-10 and merely reintroduced it, despite the Constable's veto?
I vote NO on 2020-10 and 2020-11 for aforementioned reasons.
Seeing that second consideration of Resolution 2020-10 has been voted on by all members of the House of Shepherds I make a request under Article IV, Section 3 of our province's Constitution that the voting period be terminated early.
If there is no objection, voting will close early at 6:00AM TST January 12th, 2021.
Is there objection to closing the voting period early?
I was hoping to have a conversation about the bill rather than just an identical revote. It is unchanged from the version that the Crown was forced to veto.
Quote from: Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on December 31, 2020, 01:49:55 PM
So as I read this, the general idea is that only members of the legislature should be allowed to introduce legislation, and the impetus is based on a general principle along those lines? Is that something you feel strongly about?
Seeing that 24 hours has passed without an objection, voting is terminated early for second consideration of Resolution 2020-10.
Resolution 2020-10 is approved by a vote of
8 votes in favor, 2 votes in opposition.Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution reads as follows concerning the approval of resolutions vetoed by the Constable:
QuoteIf the Constable disapprove a resolution presented by the Governor, then the former shall return it to the consideration of the Shepherds with his objections in writing: and if the same resolution should earn again at least twice as many affirmative votes as negative, not later than the seventeenth day following its return, the Governor shall close the question and promulgate the resolution forthwith, and it shall take effect then; or else he shall close the question and declare it failed, albeit not rejected.
I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby note that Resolution 2020-10 has indeed been approved by more than twice as many affirmative votes as negative votes before the seventeenth day of being returned to the House of Shepherds.
Therefore, the veto is overturned. Resolution 2020-10 is promulgated with immediate effect.
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-11. It has passed with
8 votes in favor, 2 votes in opposition.Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-11 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Regent since the office of Constable is currently vacant.
@Sir Alexandreu Davinescu please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is
9:00am TST, January 22, 2021. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto of the Resolution it will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
The Crown vetoed the last bill which was submitted for consideration, requesting to discuss it. It would have seemed a matter of basic courtesy to at least acknowledge and reply to my concerns.
The period for consideration by the Constable or King has now closed on Resolution 2020-11. I note there has been no response from
@Sir Alexandreu Davinescu (the responsible party since the office of Constable is vacant).
Therefore, Resolution 2020-11 is deemed approved.
Resolution 2020-12
Whereas, the House of Shepherds recently learned of the passing of Art Verbotten, and
Whereas, Verbotten, who resided in the Florencia canton of Benito, declared the secession of the canton, citing the existence of a different Cestour culture and character in Florencia than in northern Benito, and
Whereas, a brief struggle ensured with opponents of secession, Florencia was then declared Talossa's sixth province on 1 September 1996/XVII, the date of the promulgation of Florencia's first constitution by Verbotten, and
Whereas, Verbotten then became Florencia's first Governor, and
Whereas, Art Verbotten can be considered the pivotal figure in the history of Florencia and is therefore a more than fitting recipient of the Order of Florencia.
Therefore, be it resolved, that:
The late Art Verbotten is posthumously enrolled into the Order of Florencia with immediate effect.
The period of review will close at 9:00AM TST on February 5th, 2021.
Submitted by Breneir Itravilatx
Governor of Florencia
Member, House of Shepherds
The period of review has now closed on Resolution 2020-12.
We now move forward to voting.
Voting will close at 9:00AM TST on February 20th, 2021.
I vote PER on Resolution 2020-12
Voting has now closed on Resolution 2020-12. It has passed with
8 votes in favor, 0 votes in opposition.Pursuant to Article IV, Section 6 of the Florencian Constitution I, Breneir Itravilatx, Governor of Florencia, do hereby place my signature for Resolution 2020-12 as duly approved by a vote of the current session of the House of Shepherds.
I send this Resolution for consideration to our Regent since the office of Constable is currently vacant.
@Sir Alexandreu Davinescu please advise on your consideration of this Resolution. The deadline for Constable Consideration is 9:00am TST, February 28, 2021. Should the Constable fail to issue an Approval or Veto of the Resolution it will be considered approved.
/s/
Breneir Itravilatx
The period for consideration by the Constable or King has now closed on Resolution 2020-12.
I note there has been no response from
@Sir Alexandreu Davinescu (the responsible party since the office of Constable is vacant).
Therefore, Resolution 2020-12 is deemed approved.