Wittenberg

The Ziu => The Lobby => Topic started by: Eðo Grischun on October 19, 2020, 02:38:30 PM

Title: "Point of Order" from the Senats to the Cosa
Post by: Eðo Grischun on October 19, 2020, 02:38:30 PM
I am hopeful and almost sure the answer will be yes to this question, but could the Speaker of the Cosa confirm whether Senators are invited to attend and observe the live feeds of the State Opening of the Cosa?
Title: Re: "Point of Order" from the Senats to the Cosa
Post by: Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù on October 19, 2020, 02:42:03 PM
It Is confirmed that All may observe via twitch. However only Cosa Members will be able to speak via discord.
Title: Re: "Point of Order" from the Senats to the Cosa
Post by: Eðo Grischun on October 19, 2020, 04:49:22 PM
A follow up, if I may?

Am I correct to assume that this won't apply to Senators Plätschisch and Bornatfiglheu? Will the Senators be permitted to make rebuttal speeches as leader of the opposition and leader of the third party, respectively, as specified in the Act?
Title: Re: "Point of Order" from the Senats to the Cosa
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on October 19, 2020, 08:30:27 PM
Am I correct to assume that this won't apply to Senators Plätschisch and Bornatfiglheu? Will the Senators be permitted to make rebuttal speeches as leader of the opposition and leader of the third party, respectively, as specified in the Act?

I'd be amazed if the Minister of Culture wants to make a rebuttal speech to this own government! Sorry, not amazed, "annoyed".
Title: Re: "Point of Order" from the Senats to the Cosa
Post by: Eðo Grischun on October 19, 2020, 10:54:22 PM
Am I correct to assume that this won't apply to Senators Plätschisch and Bornatfiglheu? Will the Senators be permitted to make rebuttal speeches as leader of the opposition and leader of the third party, respectively, as specified in the Act?

I'd be amazed if the Minister of Culture wants to make a rebuttal speech to this own government! Sorry, not amazed, "annoyed".

Indeed, but I'm more making sure that the option will be there.

To clarify, when I wrote the Act modifying the opening ceremony I didn't intend it to end up being the State opening of the House of the Cosa, rather the State Opening of the n'th Cosa (ie: Cosa session, not Cosa House).  The Senate not being included didn't cross my mind otherwise I would have wrote in some phrasing to cover times when the opposition leader and Lo3p didn't sit as MCs.
Title: Re: "Point of Order" from the Senats to the Cosa
Post by: Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù on October 20, 2020, 02:38:05 AM
I have had a think on this, there is two ways to do this, one would be to allow the senators, technically however they do not have a voice in the Cosa. Macro governments whom have party leaders whom are not members of representatives or parliament, by appointment of a member of the party whom oversees the party's interests within the chamber, to be the one to speak to the chamber.
Title: Re: "Point of Order" from the Senats to the Cosa
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on October 20, 2020, 03:09:51 PM
When Parliament is opened in the UK, the Lords as well as the Commons attend.

In fact, it happens in the Lords' chamber, because the Monarch's not allowed in the Commons chamber.*

Just invite the Senators and let's stop this foolishment.

* Funny footnote: NZ abolished its appointed Upper House in 1951, but its Chamber is still there for State openings of Parliament, because the Governor-General doesn't set foot in the House of Representatives.
Title: Re: "Point of Order" from the Senats to the Cosa
Post by: Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù on October 22, 2020, 06:48:37 PM
When Parliament is opened in the UK, the Lords as well as the Commons attend.

In fact, it happens in the Lords' chamber, because the Monarch's not allowed in the Commons chamber.*

Just invite the Senators and let's stop this foolishment.

* Funny footnote: NZ abolished its appointed Upper House in 1951, but its Chamber is still there for State openings of Parliament, because the Governor-General doesn't set foot in the House of Representatives.

No foolishness intended, until Edo updated the bill, there was very little precident for how the Ziu should be opened in such a manner as this.

If the menci and I are in agreement, the senators whom are also party leaders are welcome to speak.