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El Ziu/The Ziu => El Viestül/The Lobby => Topic started by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on July 26, 2021, 09:54:28 PM

Title: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on July 26, 2021, 09:54:28 PM
Quote from: El Lexhatx H.1.1Following each General Election there shall be an official "State Opening of the Ziu". At the start of the State Opening, the new Seneschal shall be sworn to the office publicly. The Sovereign shall then deliver a speech outlining the Government's legislative agenda and program for the term. The contents of this speech shall be communicated to the Sovereign by the incoming Seneschal prior to the ceremony. The Seneschal may announce Cabinet Ministers during the ceremony. A rebuttal by the Leader of the Opposition shall follow, which may be followed by a further rebuttal by the leader of the third largest party. When practical, the State Opening may include an official Living Cosă (and 'Living Senats') in which food and drink shall be featured and as many Talossans as possible shall be invited to attend. The event shall be organized and conducted by the Speakers of both Houses of the Ziu, working in coordination and cooperation with each other.

I know that the new Seneschál has drafted up a Speech from the Throne and is sending it to the King, so we've got that part sorted out. What we need to organise from here is:

- a date/time/setup for a live video conference featuring the Seneschal, the King and the Leader of the Opposition;
- an Opposition Leader, lol.

As to the latter:

Quote from: El Lexhatx H.23. Members of the Cosâ who (in a given session of the Cosa) have voted NON on the most recent Vote of Confidence, or intend to do so on the next Vote of Confidence, shall be known as El Contrapharti Fieir da Sieu Maxhestà, or "His Majesty's Loyal Opposition" in English, or in short "El Contrapharti / The Opposition". Unless and until the members of the Opposition decide otherwise by majority vote, the "Leader of the Opposition" shall be the leader of the party with the most Cosa seats assigned to MCs who voted NON on the last Vote of Confidence.

... but the problem is we haven't had a VoC yet; unless you count the Seneschál election. The party tallies for votes against the current Seneschál on the VoC were:

NPW 11
Tafial 5
KLüP 11
DIEN 14
Balançéu 17

So, if we take that as the equivalent of a VoC, then X. Pôl Briga is the Leader of the Opposition and gets to do a rebuttal at the Speech from the Throne? And M. Tresplet is the "third party" leader who can also make a speech if desired? Do we need to modify the law on the Leader of the Opposition to cover this case in future?
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: xpb on July 26, 2021, 11:30:51 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on July 26, 2021, 09:54:28 PM
Quote from: El Lexhatx H.1.1Following each General Election there shall be an official "State Opening of the Ziu". At the start of the State Opening, the new Seneschal shall be sworn to the office publicly. The Sovereign shall then deliver a speech outlining the Government's legislative agenda and program for the term. The contents of this speech shall be communicated to the Sovereign by the incoming Seneschal prior to the ceremony. The Seneschal may announce Cabinet Ministers during the ceremony. A rebuttal by the Leader of the Opposition shall follow, which may be followed by a further rebuttal by the leader of the third largest party. When practical, the State Opening may include an official Living Cosă (and 'Living Senats') in which food and drink shall be featured and as many Talossans as possible shall be invited to attend. The event shall be organized and conducted by the Speakers of both Houses of the Ziu, working in coordination and cooperation with each other.

I know that the new Seneschál has drafted up a Speech from the Throne and is sending it to the King, so we've got that part sorted out. What we need to organise from here is:

- a date/time/setup for a live video conference featuring the Seneschal, the King and the Leader of the Opposition;
- an Opposition Leader, lol.

As to the latter:

Quote from: El Lexhatx H.23. Members of the Cosâ who (in a given session of the Cosa) have voted NON on the most recent Vote of Confidence, or intend to do so on the next Vote of Confidence, shall be known as El Contrapharti Fieir da Sieu Maxhestà, or "His Majesty's Loyal Opposition" in English, or in short "El Contrapharti / The Opposition". Unless and until the members of the Opposition decide otherwise by majority vote, the "Leader of the Opposition" shall be the leader of the party with the most Cosa seats assigned to MCs who voted NON on the last Vote of Confidence.

... but the problem is we haven't had a VoC yet; unless you count the Seneschál election. The party tallies for votes against the current Seneschál on the VoC were:

NPW 11
Tafial 5
KLüP 11
DIEN 14
Balançéu 17

So, if we take that as the equivalent of a VoC, then X. Pôl Briga is the Leader of the Opposition and gets to do a rebuttal at the Speech from the Throne? And M. Tresplet is the "third party" leader who can also make a speech if desired? Do we need to modify the law on the Leader of the Opposition to cover this case in future?

I am a bit fuzzy on this process of setting of the tone of debate, and what the time sensitivity is.

This week I am assiting the logistics for the world quizzing championships, then upcoming month has me traveling with my son to an international robotics competition (as their team won the regional event), then a week of prep before taking him to explore the area around his college prior to his start of an orientation week there.  I expect to my attention to Talossan politics to attenuated at best.

With the assumption that this process is desired to take place within the month, perhaps it would be appropriate in this case to have one or more of the other minority parties participate in the evaluation of the statement of the Seneschál, one being the "opposition" and another being the "third"?  Or perhaps I should provide a proxy to M. DIEN Tresplet for this specific activity as the coordinator of opposition?
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on July 27, 2021, 08:22:51 AM
So, me and the Mençei S:reu @Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu are in charge of the preparations, yes?

I'd also like to ask the previous Túischac'h @Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù for help with the preparations since he was in charge of the livestream last time.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Tierçéu Rôibeardescù on July 27, 2021, 12:06:16 PM
Absaloutly I can set it all up for for you :)
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 30, 2021, 05:04:02 PM
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on July 27, 2021, 08:22:51 AM
So, me and the Mençei S:reu @Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu are in charge of the preparations, yes?

I'd also like to ask the previous Túischac'h @Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù for help with the preparations since he was in charge of the livestream last time.

S:reu Túischac'h, for the purposes of this inquiry and future legislative action the Talossan National Congress is to be considered a member of His Majesty's Opposition.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on July 30, 2021, 05:43:36 PM
Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 30, 2021, 05:04:02 PM
S:reu Túischac'h, for the purposes of this inquiry and future legislative action the Talossan National Congress is to be considered a member of His Majesty's Opposition.
Acknowledged!
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on July 30, 2021, 06:42:04 PM
Objection. Under El Lexhatx H.23, the Opposition are those members of the Cosa who vote CONTRA on the VoC.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 30, 2021, 06:52:45 PM
Members of the Cosâ who (in a given session of the Cosa) have voted NON on the most recent Vote of Confidence, or intend to do so on the next Vote of Confidence, shall be known as El Contrapharti Fieir da Sieu Maxhestà, or "His Majesty's Loyal Opposition" in English, or in short "El Contrapharti / The Opposition". Unless and until the members of the Opposition decide otherwise by majority vote, the "Leader of the Opposition" shall be the leader of the party with the most Cosa seats assigned to MCs who voted NON on the last Vote of Confidence.

There is a definite intention to vote No on the next Vote of Confidence. This is under El Lexhatx H.23 which was cited by the initiator of this thread.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on July 30, 2021, 06:53:05 PM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on July 30, 2021, 06:42:04 PM
Objection. Under El Lexhatx H.23, the Opposition are those members of the Cosa who vote CONTRA on the VoC.
The TNC did vote against the Coalition's Seneschal candidate at first before the vote was edited (is that even allowed?), and since the TNC's status as either part of the Opposition or Government would neither change who the Tanaischteu is nor affect the order of Speakers for the August Clark (simply because no one pre-registered their speeches so there is no fixed order of speakers, meaning everyone will be able to speak in whichever order they feel like), I would say it would be fine to treat the TNC as de facto part the Opposition until they vote Non on the VoC next month.

I'm open to having my mind changed, though.

EDIT: Ah there we go, expressing your intent to vote Non is sufficient. Yeah, I see no problem whatsoever with treating the TNC as part of the opposition then.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on July 31, 2021, 11:20:23 PM
Yeah, but why, Brenéir. No satisfactory explanation has even been given about how you flipped from volunteering yourself for Cabinet positions to turning against us. It is actually personally hurtful to me, who had to do some fast talking to get the TNC involved in the coalition in the first place. I feel like I got kicked in the face and I don't even know why.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 01, 2021, 04:09:36 PM
Anyway, I am extremely upset that we have not had the State Opening of the Ziu before the First Clark went out. This is not the fault of the SoS, who is doing his job right; nor of the Seneschál, who's written the Speech from the Throne. But people say that the justification for the Talossan Monarchy rests on ceremonial stuff like this.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on August 01, 2021, 04:48:06 PM
Well, it seems like the people responsible for organizing it had gotten started, and then things got off-track with the debate about who gets to be in the Opposition (a Talossan first, I think). I have been helping keep the calendar organized for the throne as a member of the privy council; is there any assistance with scheduling or inquiries along those lines that I can help with?
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on August 01, 2021, 06:28:38 PM
Being the Túischac'h, I am at least partly responsible for this delay. I would like to have the State Opening as soon as possible. When's everyone free?
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: xpb on August 02, 2021, 05:54:39 PM
As per the stated division at https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=908.msg7292#msg7292 B - Balançeu/Balance has a total of 33 seats in the Cosa.
I represent 17 seats, and @Dixhet Fira represents 16 seats.

For the month of August, for the specific purpose of establishing a leader of the opposition and for no other purpose, I provide proxy for the 17 seats in the Cosa that I personally represent to @Munditenens Tresplet, thus bringing the total for DIEN to 31 to become the primary representative of the opposition.

The casting of votes on specific legislation will remain within the purview of B - Balançeu/Balance.  To reiterate, this proxy is only for the purpose of establishing an opposition leader for the formal activities of opening of the Ziu.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on August 02, 2021, 11:42:40 PM
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on August 01, 2021, 06:28:38 PM
Being the Túischac'h, I am at least partly responsible for this delay. I would like to have the State Opening as soon as possible. When's everyone free?
Apparently the Seneschal is on vacation and thus presumably unavailable, so we should probably find out that timeframe, first.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 03, 2021, 05:05:13 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on August 02, 2021, 11:42:40 PM
Apparently the Seneschal is on vacation and thus presumably unavailable

No, the Seneschál is available and enthusiastic for all his official duties re: the State Opening; he only delegated the legislative stuff to me.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on August 03, 2021, 08:46:29 PM
I'm free up until Friday, then I'm busy with my Sister-in-law's wedding for the next week.  Though not sure what role I play, since the State Opening is in the Cosa, yes?
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on August 03, 2021, 09:22:25 PM
Quote from: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on August 03, 2021, 08:46:29 PM
I'm free up until Friday, then I'm busy with my Sister-in-law's wedding for the next week.  Though not sure what role I play, since the State Opening is in the Cosa, yes?
Lexh H.1.1. states that the Speakers of both Houses of the Ziu conduct the State Opening, but I don't know what that really entails. Based purely on the letter of the law, the only people who have speaking roles during that event are the King, the Seneschal and the Leader of the Opposition. So I have no idea what you and I are supposed to do in the meantime.




So then, when's the best time for the King, the Seneschal and the (Deputy) Leader of the Opposition to all meet up in a livestream?
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu, O.SPM on August 04, 2021, 04:49:56 AM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 03, 2021, 05:05:13 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on August 02, 2021, 11:42:40 PM
Apparently the Seneschal is on vacation and thus presumably unavailable

No, the Seneschál is available and enthusiastic for all his official duties re: the State Opening; he only delegated the legislative stuff to me.

I am still very much around. I took a few days to go on a short holiday while interviewing with a University, but I am fully on board with moving forward. The issue is getting the King and the Op Leader together with me to officially get the ball rolling.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on August 10, 2021, 10:51:35 AM
Any updates?
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 11, 2021, 04:23:16 PM
Try accusing His Majesty of letting AD have the keys to the Monarchy, he'll turn up here in 10 seconds :D
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on August 12, 2021, 01:58:12 PM
His Majesty relays that he has been in touch with the Seneschal regarding the Speech from the Throne, and he looks forward to the event.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on August 12, 2021, 03:37:04 PM
But when is the best time to *have* the event? I need to know what everyone's schedule looks like to pick a date that isnt extremely awkward for one or more people involved.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 12, 2021, 05:04:37 PM
I can confirm that the Seneschál is putting the finishing touches on the Speech with His Maj's input.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on August 13, 2021, 07:55:00 AM
And, to check, with XPB's proxy for the purpose, Dien is the Opposition Leader?
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on August 21, 2021, 08:22:42 AM
Quote from: Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu, O.SPM on August 04, 2021, 04:49:56 AM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 03, 2021, 05:05:13 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on August 02, 2021, 11:42:40 PM
Apparently the Seneschal is on vacation and thus presumably unavailable

No, the Seneschál is available and enthusiastic for all his official duties re: the State Opening; he only delegated the legislative stuff to me.

I am still very much around. I took a few days to go on a short holiday while interviewing with a University, but I am fully on board with moving forward. The issue is getting the King and the Op Leader together with me to officially get the ball rolling.
Where are we on this? Have the issues with the speech been resolved? Is scheduling happening?
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu, O.SPM on August 21, 2021, 02:34:25 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on August 21, 2021, 08:22:42 AM
Quote from: Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu, O.SPM on August 04, 2021, 04:49:56 AM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 03, 2021, 05:05:13 PM
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on August 02, 2021, 11:42:40 PM
Apparently the Seneschal is on vacation and thus presumably unavailable

No, the Seneschál is available and enthusiastic for all his official duties re: the State Opening; he only delegated the legislative stuff to me.

I am still very much around. I took a few days to go on a short holiday while interviewing with a University, but I am fully on board with moving forward. The issue is getting the King and the Op Leader together with me to officially get the ball rolling.
Where are we on this? Have the issues with the speech been resolved? Is scheduling happening?

He's had it for over a week. If he doesn't do something by Monday morning, I'll be forced to take the issue to the UC.

Gen. T. Davinescu, O.SPM
Seneschál
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on August 21, 2021, 06:55:23 PM
No scheduling has happened yet. The relevant parties are seemingly refusing to get back to me.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 21, 2021, 07:36:30 PM
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on August 21, 2021, 06:55:23 PM
No scheduling has happened yet. The relevant parties are seemingly refusing to get back to me.

This is very strange, because I've just had Cabinet Minister T. Roibeardescù tell me: "who are we waiting for? I thought we where waiting for the túischac'h?...At least I am as I offered to help set up the twitch live link... But haven't had a whiff of contact since he suggested it"

This is turning into a clusterfudge because the law does not actually say who should be organising the State Opening of the Cosa. I call upon the King, the Seneschál and the chairs of the Houses of the Ziu (or however many of them can be contacted) to get together right now and make a plan for moving forward

EDIT: I am an idiot, the Law says clearly: "The event shall be organized and conducted by the Speakers of both Houses of the Ziu"
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on August 21, 2021, 08:36:32 PM
The issue for me is that I can't schedule if I don't know on which days and times everyone is available. The whole event would be rather pointless if one or more of the people involved couldn't show up.

It's true that I haven't had contact with S:reu Rôibeardescù since, but as I see it, without knowing when the event even is (or can be), I didnt have anything to contact him about.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 21, 2021, 09:00:45 PM
Can I ask for clarification as to which people necessary for the ceremony have and have not confirmed their involvement? If the Seneschál is being slack I can put a rocket up him, but what about the others?
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on August 21, 2021, 09:33:10 PM
Quote from: Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu, O.SPM on August 21, 2021, 02:34:25 PM
He's had it for over a week. If he doesn't do something by Monday morning, I'll be forced to take the issue to the UC.

Gen. T. Davinescu, O.SPM
Seneschál
I am sorry that His Majesty hasn't gotten back to you more quickly.  I know he has a considerable amount of work responsibilities right now.  Did you text or call him up to deliver your legal threat?  That's often the quickest way to reach him.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on August 22, 2021, 03:40:53 AM
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 21, 2021, 09:00:45 PM
Can I ask for clarification as to which people necessary for the ceremony have and have not confirmed their involvement?

I need to hear from The King, the Seneschal, the Dep Leader of the Opposition for the event itself and S:reu Rôibeardescù for the technical stuff.

For example, I didnt know the King was busy with work right now. When isnt he, and how about the others?
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 22, 2021, 05:07:20 PM
The Seneschál will be contacting the King directly, as the good Baron suggested, and hopefully we can move on from there.

ETA: In case anyone missed it, it will now be the job of @Muhammad Yasir, the only MC to vote against confidence in the current Government to make a rebuttal. I wonder if he, or his party leader, is aware - if not I think we will have to go without an Opposition reply.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: xpb on August 27, 2021, 10:16:50 PM
Quote from: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on August 13, 2021, 07:55:00 AM
And, to check, with XPB's proxy for the purpose, Dien is the Opposition Leader?

I granted proxy for the month of August. If Dien is still available I will honor that proxy. 

If not then I could strive to take part now that I have returned from travel.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Miestră Schivă, UrN on August 28, 2021, 04:28:59 AM
Quote from: xpb on August 27, 2021, 10:16:50 PM
Quote from: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on August 13, 2021, 07:55:00 AM
And, to check, with XPB's proxy for the purpose, Dien is the Opposition Leader?

I granted proxy for the month of August. If Dien is still available I will honor that proxy. 

If not then I could strive to take part now that I have returned from travel.

Point of order. As the Túischac'h pointed out, neither XPB nor Dien are qualified to speak for the Opposition at the moment since both parties voted YES on the vote of confidence, and are not considered part of the Opposition at the moment. The only MC to actually vote in opposition to the Government is M. Yasir of the TNC. I wonder if he even knows he is currently the Leader of the Opposition.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on August 28, 2021, 08:55:49 AM
Heres an update:

the State Opening was scheduled to happen on Sunday 3pm GTA Time (i.e. tomorrow for me). The Seneschal and Mençei will both be able to attend, His Majesty probably wont, I have no info on the Tanaischteu (that is, S:reu Yasir) or S:reu Rôibeardescù and I can't attend for family reasons that only came up today.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on August 28, 2021, 10:15:31 AM
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on August 28, 2021, 08:55:49 AM
Heres an update:

the State Opening was scheduled to happen on Sunday 3pm GTA Time (i.e. tomorrow for me). The Seneschal and Mençei will both be able to attend, His Majesty probably wont, I have no info on the Tanaischteu (that is, S:reu Yasir) or S:reu Rôibeardescù and I can't attend for family reasons that only came up today.

S:reu Túischac'h, sorry to hear about the family issues you are having. I doubt MC Yasir will be able to participate this coming Sunday if that is the current plan. I am checking with him to be sure but am doubtful on such short notice.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Breneir Tzaracomprada on August 28, 2021, 02:57:10 PM
Update: MC Yasir is prepared to participate.
If the relevant parties are set on a Sunday ceremony then please continue without an Opposition reply.
Otherwise, please prepare directly with MC Yasir.
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Tierçéu Rôibeardescù on August 29, 2021, 08:24:52 AM
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on August 28, 2021, 08:55:49 AM
Heres an update:

the State Opening was scheduled to happen on Sunday 3pm GTA Time (i.e. tomorrow for me). The Seneschal and Mençei will both be able to attend, His Majesty probably wont, I have no info on the Tanaischteu (that is, S:reu Yasir) or S:reu Rôibeardescù and I can't attend for family reasons that only came up today.
Im ready and waiting either way
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on August 29, 2021, 03:05:38 PM
https://streamable.com/w41atf
Title: Re: State Opening of the Ziu / Leader of the Opposition
Post by: Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu, O.SPM on August 30, 2021, 12:01:37 AM
I would like to thank Senator Bornatfiglheu for arranging the recording of my speech. I look forward to the term ahead as we all work together for a better Talossa.

Seneschál Txoteu Davinescu, O.SPM