Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 08, 2023, 09:14:37 PMTherefore, be it further enacted, that the Ziu of the Kingdom of Talossa endorses the transition of consideration from a human rights regime to one that seeks the protection of the rights of all sentient beings.

Not saying I endorse the bill, but from a technical perspective, this part should be incorporated into el Lexhatx (not sure where) instead of being a standalone provision

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Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 06, 2023, 04:46:59 PMIt's a really bad idea for political parties to begin recruiting prospective immigrants, since it will politicize the process in a way that can't possibly be good for the country.  If political parties start  hectoring potential citizens before they even immigrate, then it's going to lead to really obvious bad outcomes.  We've managed to avoid this for the most part for many many years, completely voluntarily, because as a community we've agreed not to turn the citizenship process into a partisan contest.

No one here (I think) is disputing this.

Quote from: Carlüs Éovart Vilaçafat on June 06, 2023, 06:33:37 PMFirst, I think it is strange that you, @Miestră Schivă, UrN are speaking on behalf on @GV when this supposedly has nothing to do with you. You have quite a few talking points lined up for something that is not an "official" FreeDems venture. Where is GV to explain his own actions?

Second and more importantly, as one of the new citizens that you are referring to, who immigrated within the last year, I can say that not once did @Breneir Tzaracomprada or any other member of the TNC approach me to join the TNC before I was a citizen. In fact, when I questioned him about TNC's platform, he refused to discuss it until I had fully immigrated!

On top of all that, I didn't even join the TNC fresh out of immigration, I joined in December of last year. A full 9 months after I immigrated because I wasn't sure I wanted to get involved in the political system at all. What was the reason for the reticence? All of the vitriol I saw spewed by members of the FreeDems! These current antics of flooding terps and spamming immigration threads only furthers my point. You can't even comprehend that someone else is doing well without resorting to cheating, and it's sad.

I ultimately joined the TNC because I saw that it was a force of good and charity in Talossa and I wanted to support its mission and promote its positive outlook for a better, friendlier nation.
In case you were looking for the "secret sauce", FreeDems, there's the recipe. If that seems too incomprehensible or puerile to you, perhaps you just need to take a long look in the mirror.

Hi.

Speaking for myself, I can say that @GV should definitely cut it out. Had I noticed it going on before now I would have advised him of this privately (egg on my face for not keeping up with the immigration threads).

But posting the same canned message over and over again is obviously nowhere near as effective as personal solicitation would be if it were happening. The FreeDems have, I think, reasonable grounds for suspecting that that could have been occurring, although I am happy to hear it was not your experience.

I really don't appreciate you labeling the entire party as vitriolic. Partisan debate is often heated around here, and there is plenty of "vitriol" to be found on all sides if you know where to look. It is very easy to paint a bad picture of someone who is opposite from you politically when you are missing years (decades even) of essential context.

I have been political allies with S:reu Tzaracomprada and Baron Alexandreu just as often as I have opposed them. I am not saying this to score cheap political points. I am saying this to remind you that if you want cultural, non-political events to continue to be fun, you should stop castigating large groups of people without the experience or knowledge to really back it up.

Thanks

Nice.

One critique; the text doesn't actually say anything about what Talossa is or why someone should want to be part of it.

I can probably swing that.

It's arguable that this bill would mean Senators who didn't vote three times over the course of their entire tenure would be kicked out, which would be strange.

MCs get replaced every election (even if the same individuals return), but even when Senators get re-elected there is no equivalent "hard break" in their tenure that would cause the strikes to reset.

Quote from: Viteu on May 15, 2023, 10:07:01 PM90 people participated in the election by voting, therefore the number is 90.

No.

Abstaining is by its very nature non-participation.

The fact that it establishes that the voter was present does not change that.

Article XII.5:

The Covenants of Rights and Freedoms, being sacred and necessary to the defence of our free society, are entrenched provisions of this Organic Law. No amendment to the Covenants shall take effect unless approved by a two-thirds majority of voters participating in the referendum on the question of the amendment.


When the Org Law means to require an absolute majority, it says so. Here it does not say an "absolute 2/3 majority," so an abstention would have its typical meaning; the absence of a vote.

Quote from: Viteu on May 15, 2023, 07:51:08 PMFine. Let's do this.

Who wants to talk about how the 2017 Organic Law wasn't actually adopted?

Bring it.

Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on May 12, 2023, 03:41:08 AM

Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on May 11, 2023, 04:57:47 PMGreat episode! I'd love to come on the show sometime.

Thatd be great! We are likely recording the next episode sunday afternoon (so that would be sunday morning for you). Any chance you happen to be available then?

Of course if that doesnt work we can try to schedule something a bit further in advance.

(We would normally do saturday mid-evening, but Eurovision is obviously more important)

I won't be available then but I'm sure I can find another episode later

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Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 11, 2023, 04:59:41 PMCrossover episode!

This might be the first time ever that there are two active Talossan podcasts with multiple episodes

Great episode! I'd love to come on the show sometime.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 30, 2023, 11:00:03 PMThe next episode's topic, according to the votes: the monarchy and its role in Talossa. I'm going to see if I can get His Majesty to do a guest appearance.

Then I think probably another vote on the next set of topics, if that sounds good, @Ian Plätschisch ?

Sounds good to me