Quote from: Bråneu Excelsio on December 11, 2023, 02:43:34 PMThe Standing Committee is to be conducted in private, with scheduled updates presented to the parties involved. The deliberations, when done, will be made public and accessible to the general public.

Thank you!

A couple quick updates.
We are a week out now from the period when Txec began his own considerations on creating an internal Chancery policy concerning the taking of partisan positions. No update yet but hopeful.
Senator Mximo is positively inclined toward taking on sponsorship as he supports the initiative. The TNC is currently in a week-long vote on their official stance on the bill, according to my last communication with him.

@Bråneu Excelsio I wanted to follow up on my supplemental question from December 1st.
Will the Standing Committee on the OrgLaw that was agreed between the TNC and FreeDems be conducted in private or will the deliberations be accessible to the public?

Quote from: þerxh Sant-Enogat on December 07, 2023, 12:35:11 PM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on November 22, 2023, 08:10:34 PM@þerxh Sant-Enogat
Therxh, the new LinkedIn looks wonderful, are we updating Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram, as well? We had pretty good growth in our Twitter followers but not as much on Facebook and Instagram during the last term. I do know there were several immigration applicants through our Instagram though.

I now also have access to X/Twitter, Instagram - first post done. Still looking for Facebook credentials !

Awesome news. Thanks for updating us, Therxh!

I rise to propose the following resolution:

Resolution 2023-04

Whereas, Florencia, as the home province of the King, takes pride in its strongly royalist heritage, and

Whereas, the active presence of the King in the nation's affairs is of vital importance to the maintenance of a healthy constitutional monarchy, and

Whereas, in a healthy constitutional monarchy the King is to be seen and heard so that he may be known by the people of the realm.

Therefore, the House of Shepherds of Florencia, hereby encourages King John to increase his participation on Wittenberg, particularly in his home province, and other Talossan Fora.

Submitted by Breneir Tzaracomprada
Governor of Florencia
Royalist People's Party

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Discussion period ends on December 12th at 1630 TST.

Quote from: Bråneu Excelsio on December 05, 2023, 01:42:27 PMThe group has been formed and there's a general outline, I'm personally working on a work path, while the Brains in the matter have been invited to voice their ideas as well.

I hope in a couple of weeks I can present some advancements to the general public.

Seneschal, thank you for your response. Should there be no announcements before then I will check back in a few weeks.

Quote from: þerxh Sant-Enogat on December 05, 2023, 12:20:57 PM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on December 04, 2023, 02:35:00 PM@þerxh Sant-Enogat Therxh, as the current STUFF Minister, I wanted to check on when the next edition of La C'hronica will be released?

Legitimate question, I will work on this during the week-end. In the meanwhile, all contributions made in this thread below or by PM are welcome, so that I don't forget anything of interest for La C'hronica !

Thanks Therxh!

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on November 27, 2023, 04:57:33 PM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on November 20, 2023, 08:39:09 AMI rise to propose the following resolution:

Resolution 2023-03

Whereas, there has been recurring discussion on an apolitical Chancery, and

Whereas, this discussion began after the incumbent Secretary of State took office as the leader of a national partisan organization, and

Whereas, it is advisable that the nation's election administrator be free of even the appearance of partiality.

Therefore, be it resolved that the House of Shepherds of Florencia, endorses legal reform(s) of the Chancery to make it an apolitical institution.

Submitted by Breneir Tzaracomprada
Governor of Florencia
Royalist People's Party

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Discussion period ends on November 27th at 8:40 TST.

Discussion period has closed on Resolution 2023-03. We now move to voting. Voting will close on December 4, 2023 at 1657 TST. Votes received are as follows:

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No vote recorded: Acafat del Val
8 votes (Per): Breneir Tzaracomprada, Mximo Carbonel

The voting period for Resolution 2023-03 has closed. The House of Shepherds has approved it by a 8 Per to 0 Non vote. There was, again, no vote from the FreeDems member Acafat dal Val.

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on November 27, 2023, 04:53:38 PM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on November 21, 2023, 02:16:04 PM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on November 20, 2023, 08:14:52 AMI move the following motion:

2023-02

Whereas, Florencia has a proud tradition of supporting the institution of the Talossan monarchy, and Whereas, the question of monarchy reform has been a perennial subject of election campaigning.
Therefore, be it resolved that the House of Shepherds of Florencia encourages the Ziu to act without delay on the matter.


Mximo Carbonèl
Senator from Florencia

I forgot to clarify, discussion period on Resolution 2023-02 ends on November 26th 2023 at 2226 TST.

Discussion period has closed on Resolution 2023-02. We now move to voting. Voting will close on December 4th, 2023 at 1652 TST. We currently have the following votes recorded:

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7 votes (Per): @mximo
1 vote (Non): Breneir Tzaracomprada
No vote recorded: Acafat del Val

The voting period for Resolution 2023-02 has closed. The House of Shepherds has approved it by a 7 Per to 1 Non vote. There was, again, no vote from Acafat dal Val.

@þerxh Sant-Enogat Therxh, as the current STUFF Minister, I wanted to check on when the next edition of La C'hronica will be released?

Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on December 04, 2023, 08:27:11 AMI wasn't arguing one way or the other about whether this bill is inorganic. I was making the broader point that if someone believes a bill to be inorganic, they should not vote for it.

Oh OK understood.

Also, @mximo
I have withdrawn from the proposal but if you are still in support of it. It is open to being sponsored by you since you are a senator.

 

Quote from: Glüc da Dhi S.H. on December 03, 2023, 02:50:22 PM

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on December 03, 2023, 09:21:28 AMI would argue this proposed law violates the third covenant.

QuoteTalossans have the right to freely organize political parties and other organizations, subject to their own laws of membership, and this right may not be abridged except with regards to organizations which advocate the use of violence or intimidation to attain political or other ends, or which seek to restrain any person or group of people from the exercise of their rights as granted under these Covenants.

I would strongly disagree. We're not talking about the right to be a party officer. Anyone has that right. We are talking about requirements for secretary of state. This is a government function. It's is perfectly valid for the ziu to set restrictions on who can hold such a position. If this proposal were to pass anyone would still be free to become a party officer. They just could not also be sos. Super broad interpretations of convenants are dangerous, because it reduces the ability of the ziu and the people to hold the government accountable. The convenants should protect citizens from the state, not the other way round.

This was a well-stated response, @Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB Do you have thoughts on this alternative view? @Ian Plätschisch ?

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on December 03, 2023, 01:56:19 PMActually, as SoS I am empowered to not Clark any bill I find to be inorganic, which is why I brought up the Third Covenant. It was a suggestion to reword your proposal. 

Thank you Txec. I assumed you would ask for an advisory opinion and didn't know it was also up to your discretion as well. As mentioned in Discord, I respectfully withdraw this proposal, not assuming or trying to force your hand, but to demonstrate that other avenues would be acceptable too.

Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on December 03, 2023, 01:35:15 PM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on December 03, 2023, 10:44:03 AMSounds like something for the corts to decide. Should this be passed feel free to bring a lawsuit and let the judiciary settle it.

This is really not how lawmaking is supposed to work. The citizenship oath to uphold the Organic Law applies to everyone.

It is exactly how lawmaking works. If there is a question on a bill's compliance with the law then the judiciary can settle that question. We don't immediately assume it is not compliant at the presentation of a question...though that may serve certain people's goals well in this case.