The Let's Make This Official Compromise Bill

WHEREAS the Kingdom recognizes the importance of celebrating important dates and events in Talossan history, and

WHEREAS the Republican schism of June 1 2004, as the act of defiance that sparked the movement leading to the abdication of a tyrannical King and the restoration of democracy in the Kingdom, was an incredibly important moment in the history of Talossa; and

WHEREAS Reunision as the re-uniting of our nation's monarchist and republican traditions also marks an incredibly important moment in the history of Talossa;


Therefore be it resolved that two new subsections are placed at El Lexhatx F 2.4, with any necessary renumbering of following subsections, to read:

Quote20 April. Reunision Day. Commemorating the royal proclamation of Reunision and the end of the National Schism.

1 June. Republic Day. Commemorating the foundation of the Talossan Republic as a day to honour democracy and the popular will, for both Republican and Monarchist traditions.

The Let's Make This Official As Well Bill

WHEREAS the Kingdom recognizes the importance of celebrating important dates and events in Talossan history, and

WHEREAS the Republican schism of June 1 2004, as the act of defiance that sparked the movement leading to the abdication of a tyrannical King and the restoration of democracy in the Kingdom, was an incredibly important moment in the history of Talossa; and

WHEREAS parity of esteem for the Republican tradition in Talossa requires that this day deserves equal honour to the day of Reunision, and an acknowledgement that the history of the Talossan Republic should a matter of pride for all Talossans;


Therefore be it resolved that a new subsection is placed at El Lexhatx F 2.4, with any necessary renumbering of following subsections, to read:

Quote1 June. Democracy Day. Commemorating the foundation of the Talossan Republic as a day to honour democracy and the popular will, for both Republican and Monarchist traditions.

A history lesson, then: if there were no Republican schism on June 1, 2004, there would be no sudden "180-degree" turn by King Robert to open the immigration floodgates, after years of very tight control. KR1 would have not felt the urgent need to prevail on Fritz von Buchholtz to immigrate, and to bring all his friends with him. Without the Republican schism, then, no Fritz; no John Woolley; no Manus Hand. And no new opposition that finally politically defeated KR1 in August 2005. No Talossa, as we know it today.

That's what we need to celebrate, as well as Reunision. This is a simple "parity of esteem" issue for the other Talossan cultural tradition. But I have my answer.

Quote from: Carlüs Éovart Vilaçafat on June 08, 2022, 04:51:59 PM
From a "fresh" perspective, I personally view Reunison a day for celebration just like the father of the prodigal son celebrated when his son returned to him.

The prodigal son admitted he had screwed up badly and was begging his father's forgiveness, which was freely given. That is... not what happened with Reunision, and anyone who tells you it is is massively biased to a Monarchist point of view.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 08, 2022, 03:27:11 PM
Honestly, for many of us of Republican heritage, Reunision was more a defeat than a victory; or, probably more accurate, a day of somber reflection rather than one of celebration, like Armistice Day.

Let's put Calonda Gün (1 June, the date of the founding of the Talossan Republic) on the celebration list as well as the date of its dissolution.

If the author of the bill isn't going to take on my suggestion, I should put it in a separate bill

Ah, so what you want is the Convocation model but not the time-limiting model. That's an interesting start, and perhaps a bit surprising - I would have expected you to want the hereditary model back?

an official announcement from the Ministry of STUFF

Talossan ID cards, based on the designs below, are now available for all citizens who can pass a 20-question Civics Test on Talossan history, culture and other law. All the answers to this question can be found no more than 1 click away from the front page of TalossaWiki.




To take the Civics Test:

Here's how it works:
1) volunteers send to the Minister of STUFF (i.e. me) an email address by PM (or via Facebook if you know me there);
2) I "enrol" you on the quizglobal.com website;
3) you go to quizglobal.com, log in, and you should be taken right to the test.

Once you pass the test (defined as 16/20 correct answers), the Deputy Minister of STUFF will contact you to get all the details needed to print your ID card.

Honestly, for many of us of Republican heritage, Reunision was more a defeat than a victory; or, probably more accurate, a day of somber reflection rather than one of celebration, like Armistice Day.

Let's put Calonda Gün (1 June, the date of the founding of the Talossan Republic) on the celebration list as well as the date of its dissolution.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on June 05, 2022, 09:01:58 PM
So your considered position is that we are desperate to keep things quiet, and so we've pledged to loudly and indefinitely attempt to change the subject so as to avoid talking, at all costs, about what our proposals for monarchical reform are?

Fixed that for ya.

Do you have clue one about how we would actually go about that? Because I certainly don't, and neither of the Govt's "casual on-call tech experts" seem to be answering my messages at the moment

The current thinking in the Government is that we should keep (in addition to talossa.com) talossa.net as a redirect; and talossan.com seeing as the Ladintsch Naziunal is currently getting that updated.

If there isn't a grand popular upsurge to keep the "kingdomoftalossa.*" domain names, the Government is minded to let that lapse and therefore save ourself half our domain name bill. I understand the problem of "domain name squatting", but if an enemy of our State is determined enough to get their hands on a Talossa-related domain name, I don't see how we can cover all possibilities.

The problem is that the TNC have put themselves in a cleft stick. I'm willing to believe that Senator Tzaracomprada does, or at least at one point did, support monarchy reform of some sort. But overwhelmingly the active members of the TNC want no monarchy reform at all. Or if they do, they want to turn back the clock and give the King more powers and less accountability. So the only way to keep their large voter base together is to keep quiet about the whole thing and hope we all forget about it.

If the TNC ever actually take a position on monarchy reform, it will split their party, possibly fatally. So bluster, indignation, and victimhood-mongering are the response. "To distract yiz", in the words of Jimmy Rabbitte Sr.

Quote from: xpb on June 02, 2022, 10:32:55 PM
What is the platform that Talossa.net leverages?  If the government does not wish to do system administration on that, perhaps I could learn if that is the issue.

If you're really interested in taking over, I suggest you talk to @Lüc about getting the database and files transferred out of the national webspace and onto a server you control. The domain name has already been redirected.

QuoteI'm assuming the government just wants to redirect talossa.net back to the main website and not abandon the URL?

Well, the Government is seeking discussion on whether we want to hang on to (pay for) so many domain names.

Quote from: xpb on June 02, 2022, 10:54:17 PM
It is all well and good for anyone to propose changes that a supermajority can agree to in the way the Kingdom functions.  It is another matter to propose changes that would in the opinion of some to be an improvement, while that in the opinion of others is a radical change from one form of government to another entirely. 

And yet, in the face of a stable opposition where one party polled at a level greater than any other single party (at 39% of the whole), a coalition of other parties seeks to achieve changes that the current law of the land does not support based upon that opposition.  Ad hominem attacks seek to deflect away from this core concept.

... I've read this post over and over again and I can't actually work out what it means.

Can the author - a TNC MC - say what he thinks would be a good monarchy reform? "None" is an acceptable answer, and indeed the one I'm expecting.

In the run-up to the 57th Cosa Budget, MinTech has been looking at the domain names we currently hold, apart from of course talossa.com:

kingdomoftalossa.com
kingdomoftalossa.org
kingdomoftalossa.net
talossa.net
talossan.com

The first three redirect straight back to the main website. The Government has already signalled our interest in closing down the barely-used talossa.net social networking site. The last domain name leads to an out-of-date website on the national language which confuses a lot of people - does anyone remember who actually runs it? I have a sinking feeling it might be former citizen Sevastáin Pinátsch.

The Cabinet's draft decision is that these domain names are no longer worth holding onto, in light of the above - but it seems good to get public consultation on the issue.