Cabinet Personnel Update

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The STUFF/Culture Minister, Carlus Eovart Vilaçafat, has informed me he has been hospitalized. First, I want to ask Talossans to spare a kind and positive thought toward his rapid return to good health. Second, he has delegated ministerial responsibilities (statutory obligations, terpelaziuns, etc.) until that return to good health, to his Deputy STUFF/Culture.

Breneir Tzaracomprada
Seneschal

Quote from: Üc R. Tärfâ on March 23, 2023, 06:49:43 AMIt adds flexibility, potential, which is always a good thing and better indicates and defines the role of the CRL in the legislative process. It is merely an ameliorative change, nothing radical.

I am still not clear on the purpose of this legislation, Üc. Can you expand on why you think this is necessary? To clarify, I'm asking if the incumbent Tui or Mencei have indicated a need for this.

Quote from: Üc R. Tärfâ on March 23, 2023, 06:17:09 AMEstimat Túischac'h,

I'm happy to provide the Seneschal some definitions of why in different dictionaries, I am sure he will find them very enlightening and useful.

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Méirci.

I appreciate the offer.

Quote from: Üc R. Tärfâ on March 22, 2023, 07:12:31 PMEstimat Túischac'h,
if I may, the Seneschal is under the wrong impression that changing words in a question doesn't change the question itself, which is not true.

I decided to conclude the Terp not because - as he said - I was "frustrated" by him but because meanwhile the Ministreu dal Finançù announced something that openly contradicted the Seneschal's previous statement so I felt that situation in a way was satisfying to me and I didn't want to be forced to conclude that the Seneschal was refusing to answer. I did that mostly out of a concern for him.

Than the Seneschal made - maybe out of his frustration - a comment - that could be considered unparliamentary, but I'm willing to overlook it - and in that comment he also said "his effort to get the answer he WANTED would continue to frustrate him no matter how many times he reworded the same question". I raised a Point of Order to have the Seneschal reminded that all that the Membreux WANT is an answer to their Terpelaziuns: it doesn't matter how he perceives a question, as long as that question is lawful and the "operative" part of the question is different ("do you think" and "why you think not" are different) he has to reply, even briefly, and not to decide which answer is worth of reply and which is not.

As I raised a point of order, I know sit and cease to engage on this.

I thank the MC again for ceasing this expired line of inquiry and repeat that no is an answer.

Quote from: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on March 22, 2023, 06:24:48 PMI think there's a problem here in getting this bill to do what you want it to do, and that is there is no method spelled out for doing this.  What does it mean to be "released to the Royal archives?"  Would it be sufficient to give whomever is the archivist access to the same forum?  And is the royal archivist then required to publicly publish the same?

Also, 10 years is a dog's age in Talossa.  That's not transparency.

It is transparency but not on a timeline you view as preferable. This act is intended to mandate automated transmittal of internal government communications on a Government-owned fora but why would we need to detail the process itself statutorily?

Maybe I should specify the Royal "Archivist" but I assumed that was implied since it is not an expansive institution. Of course that could change in the future.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on March 22, 2023, 03:57:25 PMI *personally* have no issue with the new catchment boundaries, but I would really appreciate someone actually from Vuode chiming in.

Thank you Miestra. I also would love someone from Vuode to comment.
I do think we may need to add additional countries to Vuode, as you said the Berber countries are not a growth area and I am unable to predict the intake of new citizens from the Mexican states currently allotted to Vuode in this proposal.

Quote from: Üc R. Tärfâ on March 22, 2023, 09:54:29 AM

QuoteLexh.C.1.3.1. The Scribe of Abbavilla shall maintain all laws in L'Anuntzia dels Legeux, insofar as possible, with the same content that was approved by the Ziu, except that amending acts that refer to section numbers in pre-existing statutes that were changed by the Scribery shall be construed as referring to the equivalent section numbers in the amended statutes as originally enacted.

I would like to have a confrontation in the interpretation of this passage, which is a bit complex.

Am I correct in interpreting this passage as authorising me to proceed with a renumbering required by a law but never carried out, and to consider subsequent laws amending the text of the Lexhatx absent of renumbering as referring to the equivalent section in the then published non-renumbered text?

Example:

1. Cat
2. Mouse
3. Dog
4. Banana
5. Whale

Law 1: remove 3 and renumbers the following.
The renumbering wasn't carried out.

1. Cat
2. Mouse
3.
4. Banana
5. Whale

Law 2: amends 4 in "Dolphin

1. Cat
2. Mouse
3.
4. Dolphin
5. Whale

Now: oh, the renumbering wasn't carried out, I can do it now and Lexh.C.1.3.1. says to me "it's ok, you are authorised to consider Law 2 as refereing to 3. even if it says 4.

1. Cat
2. Mouse
3. Dolphin
4. Whale

That part allows me now to do that? Otherwise, I must also include these cases in the maintenance bill.

I agree with your interpretation.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on March 22, 2023, 08:12:20 AMI asked the new Google AI, Bard, about Talossa.

Quote from: MeWhat is Talossa?

Quote from: BardI am an LLM trained to respond in a subset of languages at this time, so I can't assist you with that. Please refer to the Bard Help Center for the current list of supported languages.

So at first, it just guesses that's the name of a language or a word in a language.  Huh.  Okay, let's get more specific.

Quote from: MeWhat is the Kingdom of Talossa?  Search the Internet for answers if necessary.

Quote from: BardThe Kingdom of Talossa is a micronation founded in 1979 by Robert Ben Madison. It is located in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, USA. The kingdom has a population of about 100 people and a land area of 5.019 square miles. Talossa has its own flag, anthem, and currency. The official language of Talossa is Talossan, which is a fictional language created by Madison.

Talossa is a constitutional monarchy with a parliament called the Ziu. The current king of Talossa is King Robert Ben Madison I. The kingdom is a member of the United Nations and the International Olympic Committee.

Talossa is a popular tourist destination, and visitors can tour the kingdom's capital city of Abbavilla. Abbavilla is a replica of a medieval city, and it is home to several museums and shops. Visitors can also enjoy the kingdom's many parks and gardens.

Talossa is a unique and fascinating place, and it is a great place to learn about micronations and fictional languages.

It starts off very correctly, but then starts to go a little sideways!  I love the idea that Abbavilla is a replica medieval city... I wonder if stuff like the College of Arms influenced it to create this notion?  I'll ask.

Quote from: MeWhy do you think Abbavilla is a replica of a medieval city?

Quote from: BardAbbavilla is a replica of a medieval city because it was designed to look like one. The city was founded in the 1980s by a group of people who wanted to create a living history museum. They used old maps and historical documents to create a city that would be as accurate as possible to the medieval period.

Abbavilla is located in a valley surrounded by mountains. The city is divided into several districts, each with its own unique character. The main district is the Old Town, which is home to the city's cathedral, castle, and other important buildings. The New Town is a more modern district with shops, restaurants, and hotels.

Abbavilla is a popular tourist destination. Visitors can explore the city's streets, visit its museums, and learn about its history. The city also hosts a number of festivals and events throughout the year.

Here are some of the reasons why Abbavilla is a replica of a medieval city:

The city's architecture is inspired by medieval buildings.
The city's streets are narrow and winding, like those of a medieval city.
The city's residents dress in medieval costumes.
The city's festivals and events are based on medieval traditions.

Uh.  wut

Quote from: MeWho is the current king of Talossa?

Quote from: BardThe current king of Talossa is King John I of the House of Lupul. He ascended to the throne on 14 March 2007, after an interregnum following the abdication of the minor King Louis.

Well, it's reading the wiki!  What else is it reading?

Quote from: MeCan you tell me which sources of information you used to answer my questions about Talossa?

Quote from: BardI used the following sources of information to answer your questions about Talossa:

The Wikipedia article about Talossa
The Talossan website
The book "The Talossan Kingdom" by Robert Ben Madison
The Talossan national census
The Talossan government website
The Talossan embassy website
I also used my knowledge of the world and my ability to process information from the real world through Google Search to answer your questions.

Quote from: MeI don't think the book "The Talossan Kingdom" is a real book.

Quote from: BardYou are correct again. The Talossan Kingdom is a fictional micronation created by David Weishampel. It is not a real book.

...huh.  Okay, well, now I just don't know.

It would be entertaining to have a taped conversation with one of the AIs about Talossa. That might be a good Fora Talossa video.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on March 22, 2023, 08:05:47 AMI don't think a Sense bill can actually direct anyone to do anything, like you have happening in the last clause. I'd suggest just getting rid of that, and then -- in your capacity as our nation's leader -- directing the MinFor to send Uganda a certified letter or something.

Thanks Baron. I like the sound of that. @Bråneu Excelsio So directed, but I will coordinate with you in the Cabinet Room.

Whereas, Uganda has just passed a law stating that "a person who commits the offence of aggravated homosexuality and is liable, on conviction to suffer death, making homosexual acts punishable by the death penalty or life imprisonment," and

Whereas, this law represents another step backwards for the rights of LGBTQ people in Uganda and across the African continent, and

Whereas, this law is an escalated and egregious attack on the lives and liberty of LGBTQ Ugandans, and

Whereas, Talossans as free people and lovers of freedom, owe our witness and our voices, to those yet to be blessed with such freedoms.

Therefore, be it the Sense of the Ziu, to express its condemnation of the Ugandan Parliament's passing of the Anti-Homosexuality Bill and of the bill itself.

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on March 21, 2023, 10:56:26 PMThe VoC passed.

Excellent. I hope you are having a good vacation, Txec.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on March 21, 2023, 10:18:26 PMNo. Provincial assignment must always be based on where you personally reside, unless grandfathered in. The last thing we want is "self-determination" of provincial membership, which will lead to people migrating between provinces for perceived electoral advantages, leading to gerrymandering. "Volunteer provinces" can only be considered if we abolish the Senäts.

Understood. Are there any other issues with the proposal which would prevent you from supporting it?

Quote from: Sir Txec dal Nordselvă, UrB on March 21, 2023, 08:01:08 PMResults of the First Clark:

RZ1 - passed
RZ2 - passed
RZ3 - failed
RZ4 - passed

MCs Alexandreu Prominè and Mic'haglh Autófil failed to vote.  All senators voted.



Sir Txec dal Nordselvă,
Secretár d'Estat

What was the VOC result?

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on March 18, 2023, 06:14:29 PMI also approve this, and also (for what it's worth) think it would be better to directly honor the Cjovani, who are relatively unique for their trailblazing invention of a subculture within their province out of whole cloth and wacky notions.

Quote from: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on March 18, 2023, 08:22:59 AMStructurally, with the Baron's revisions, I think this bill is going to operate like you want it to.

One other thought, if your bill is to congratulate the Cjovani, why not make it "Cjovani Day?"  "Provincial subcultures day" feels kinda mealy.

Second point isn't a bar to the bill insofar as the CRL is concerned.  Approve

Honestly, this was the original intent. I have revised it back to Cjovani Day. As @Iason Taiwos might say: Famat voi?

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on March 21, 2023, 09:58:16 AMGoals with this bill:

• To put some teeth behind some of the reporting requirements, so they can't be ignored.
• Change things so that an outgoing government has to report on expenditures they've done (just a quick report linking to disbursements under a copy-and-pasted budget).
• Change what's reported.

It looks like at least one member of the FDT has indicated support for re-establishing end of Cosa financial reporting.