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Show posts MenuQuote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on April 30, 2021, 07:08:55 PMAlmost none of that describes you in my mind. I admire you very much in many ways. You are passionate, deeply loyal, and seem to be a fundamentally good person. You have many flaws, but we are all flawed. I have many flaws too.
It's probably just best to understand that (fill in the blank) is a nasty, poisonous person, motivated by wounded ego and hatreds, who is only involved in Talossa because it's somewhere they can be deeply cruel, manipulative and abusive like they can't be in real life. If we're going to keep Talossa going we just have to accept that that person will never "repent", will never start behaving like a decent person - fundamentally because they don't see Talossa as "real life" and don't see any reason to abide by generally accepted ethics and decency in Talossa - and if we can't accept, we just have to give up and let them have Talossa all to themselves. Which we won't do because we despise that person and won't let them "win" Talossa.
I think this formulation works for all of us, we just have different people in mind for fill in the blank. Every single one of us thinks their miéidă don't stink.
Quote from: GV on April 30, 2021, 06:37:03 PM
The Reunision I wish for is for Ián Lupul, you, and others on the modern Talossan Right to engage through back-channels a sincere 'come-to-Jesus' dialogue such Kane, Miestrâ, Anglatzarâ, and others will say in so many words something to the effect of...
We had a knock-down-drag out with John today, and I think we understand each other a little better. We still disagree rampantly on the monarchy, but we are well-convinced John is aware of and has fessed up for his own mistakes. But we have fessed up on our own, too.
We may never been drinking buddies with Lupul, but I think it really is water under the bridge. As for AD vs. Schivâ, that seems to have gone the way of the Dodo, too.
Part of bringing up all this is to take as much poison-dross from future Talossan politics as possible. We can disagree on governance and things like that, but we can also take the log out of our own eye while removing the stick out of the eyes of others - a phenomenae (cannot spell today) that does not happen enough in politics anywhere and one which voters outside of Talossa hate.
Quote from: GV on April 30, 2021, 04:26:10 PM
I just don't believe he ever really has. In part, they are godless liberals (in his mind, perhaps), but far more importantly, they represent a direct threat to how he has always wanted to do Talossa: in the direct model of Elizabeth II of England: the monarchy being a hereditary, lifetime office with the royal family being a continuity of institutional memory and wisdom. There is no dispute Elizabeth II has been an exemplar we will not see again for many decades, if not centuries. Not perfect in the modern sense, but exemplary nevertheless.
Quote from: GV on April 30, 2021, 05:51:44 PM
What could Ián have done post-Reunision to have effected positive Talossan society?
Quote from: Antaglha Xhenerös Somelieir on April 28, 2021, 07:16:31 PMAs always, I admire your optimistic view. I'm not sure I can agree that politics is always a fight, though. Fighting is antagonistic and zero-sum. It's possible to have politics that is civil, kind, and respectful -- even while disagreeing sharply! But I will give your party leader the benefit of the doubt and assume that she was just inviting a vigorous exchange of ideas. :-)Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 28, 2021, 07:11:19 PM
The politics of grievance demands ever-fresh grievances. I think the general idea is to try to provoke a fight?
I think the idea, wasnt to provoke, but to invite in a jovial way, opposing view points in thread so they might be answered, i dont think it was meant to be seen as a provocation. Also, politics is a fight, a fight of values, ideals, conviction, and passion, which is expressed through political debates (also known as arguments) to help show the public what a party is about. And without such things, then what would be the point of politics? Some people react better to some forms of engagement than others, but nothing in politics should be taken personally, no matter how much you might agree or disagree with a particular person or view point.
Quote from: Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu, O.SPM on April 21, 2021, 09:10:14 PMYou are indeed, and I am grateful for it. Leaders should be forthright about their beliefs and plans. Thank you.Quote from: Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on April 21, 2021, 08:06:31 PM
I'm not upset... Far from it! I think it's important to set out exactly what you guys see as the terms of this "compromise." There had been a lot of high talk about ending the arguments over the role of the monarchy, finding a compromise for "generations of Talossans," and so on. But it turns out that it really just means that you get what you want now, and you'll come back for more very soon. That's fine, I'm just glad that the cards are on the table.
You know what affects "generations of Talossans"? Landed Peerages, which... like the current Monarchical system... are lifetime, hereditary appointments. I do believe that the trappings of the Monarchy are important to the cultural of Talossa. That said, it is also important that those lifetime, hereditary titles be given with the consent of the Government... since the current Monarch proved upon the moment of His return that he clearly doesn't understand the importance of said titles within this country. The only thing about this discussion tied directly to the HC is the fact that a nation in which the Crown truly serves at the consent of the people... even in a seven year renewable term... lacks the power to screw up and grant lifetime titles to a non-deserving subject. Hereditary titles should go to lifelong, impactful servants of the country... of the people! Not just for successfully not dying while the boss was on vacation! So stop putting words in my mouth. You want clarification on something I said, you ask. I'm quite capable of speaking for myself