This doesnt seem to be going anywhere. I hereby countersign my own nomination.

Quote from: GV on June 25, 2021, 10:40:50 AM
I'm working on an English-language Talossan ABCs song.  Where is the page which describes how to pronounce the name of each Talossan letter, i. e. in English the letter 'H' being pronounced 'aitch'?

At the bottom of the Orthography section in the Recomendăs.

Quote from: Danihel Txechescu on June 22, 2021, 05:53:48 PM
Unsure if useful, but in Spanish that'd be "aquí abajo", which is not common in legalese. What's used, instead, is "debajo", an adverbial combination of de- + bajo ("de-" is not a preposition but a prefix: https://dle.rae.es/de-). Perhaps there's a similar combination in Talossan.

As far as I can tell, there isn't, which makes words like "above" and "below" so difficult to translate. There are words for "from above" and "from below", which are "dasupra" ('supra' by itself doesnt exist) and "d'under" ('under' means down) respectively, which isn't really helpful either...

QuoteThank you. Can you also please help me with this phrase:

The relevant Organic Law is quoted below

Thanks,

"below" is a difficult word but I guess it should be
El Legeu Orgänic relevint isch quotat aicì bäts.

QuoteI'm in the process of trying to add Talossan names for things when creating official documents in my role as Secretár d'Estat. As such, I know that an individual MC is Membreu dal Cosă. If I remember correctly, the plural is Membreaux, right?

*Secretar d'Estat, *Membreux
If you want a (probably not complete) list of public office titles, click here.

QuoteIt is my pleasure to call Members of the Cosa to vote on the next Seneschal for the 56th Cosa.
Members of the Cosa as of July 1, 2021
The relevant Organic Law is quoted below
Election Procedures
Candidates for Seneschal (in random order)
Sample Vote Response

C'e va plaschair à pußidar dels Membreux dal Cosă à votar sür el próxim Seneschal per la 56:téă Cosă.
Membreux dal Cosă dal 1:dă Juliă dallas 2021/XLII
Procedançeux dal Eleziun
Candidätsilor per el Seneschal (in l'uorden fortupt)
Exampal da Respuns da Votă

QuoteAlso, I'm interested in perhaps slightly modifying the names of the boards here in Wittenberg. For example:
[...]
Any thoughts?

The translations are accurate, but in all honesty, I'm not sure what this would accomplish. We've been using Talossan terms for a great deal of things for years (Cosă, Senäts, Ziu, Seneschal, per, non, austanéu...) and nothing much has come of it (I bet most Talossan dont know how these words are even pronounced),

Azul everyone. New word suggestion.

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Talossan word: infrastrütür
English translation: infrastructure
Part of speech: Noun (masculine)
Context (e.g. citations for use, word origin, etc.): infrared --> infraroxh / structure --> strütür / infra- + structure --> infra- + strütür --> infrastrütür

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This word seems like a no-brainer to me, and I might as well add it right away. Any objections?

Quote from: GV on June 15, 2021, 05:25:27 PMTxescuoah (sp?????)

Txosuè

Keep in mind this thread, being on Wittenberg instead of the Chat Room, is visible to non-citizens. You might want to redact the link just to be safe.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 13, 2021, 12:50:44 AM

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 09, 2021, 10:05:27 PM
5 years maximum civil disability? 500 louis maximum fine (which would be half our total treasury)?

BUMP. Any other suggestions on maximum civil disabilities and fines?

I checked the case again, and ESB got 8 months for each count of violating the Anti-Impostor and Liar Act, and an additional 3 months for each count of violating Wis. Stat. § 947.0125. The way I understand it, a flat maximum of 5 years civil disability wouldnt have affected the sentencing since each individual punishment is well below it, and to be honest I think People v. ESB was somewhat of a special case.

EDIT:
My idea for maximum punishments would be something like this:
Felony -- 5 years of civil disability and/or ℓ500 ($750)
Severe misdemeanour -- 1 year of civil disability and/or ℓ100 ($150)
Misdemeanour -- 6 months of civil disability and/or ℓ50 ($75)

19:00 UTC = 14:00 CDT = 21:00 CEST = 07:00 NZST
(Here's a link to the timezone converter I used)

This would work for me (and maybe Kiwis if they wake up early enough). Though I must say, I'm a bit disappointed that we have to split up these calls by timezones for practical reasons...

Also, voting for the Túischac'h is going to be difficult as long as more than half of all Cosă seats are left unassigned...

I humbly accept the nomination.

I realise that the Túischac'h doesnt have that much to do outside of Living Cosăs -- the fact that the Mençei is mentioned in the Organic Law but not the Túischac'h makes it seem like the latter was an afterthought, which is odd since it's usually the other way around in other countries with a similar set up -- so, should I be elected, I'd love to conduct a Living Cosă at some point. I've been a fan of watching recordings of German parliamentary sessions for a while now, so I think this could potentially be really fun!

Oh, also,

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 10, 2021, 05:11:58 AM
On a personal level, my own concern for Túischac'h is that they be a productive and active member of the CRL.

what's CRL stand for?

Looks good on a first glance.

One thing that irks me is that, without the class system, there are no maximum lengths for civil disability or maximum amounts for fines now. Depending on whether we can believe Talossan judges to always be reasonable with these things, this may or may not be something that we'd need to fix.

Something else I've noticed is that the definition of perjury says "before any of the following", but then fails to specify. The full section on perjury in Wisconsin law is this: https://casetext.com/statute/wisconsin-statutes/criminal-code/chapter-946-crimes-against-government-and-its-administration/subchapter-iii-perjury-and-false-swearing/section-94631-perjury

Quote(1) Whoever under oath or affirmation orally makes a false material statement which the person does not believe to be true, in any matter, cause, action or proceeding, before any of the following, whether legally constituted or exercising powers as if legally constituted, is guilty of a Class H felony:
     (a) A court;
     (b) A magistrate;
     (c) A judge, referee or court commissioner;
     (d) An administrative agency or arbitrator authorized by statute to determine issues of fact;
     (e) A notary public while taking testimony for use in an action or proceeding pending in court;
     (f) An officer authorized to conduct inquests of the dead;
     (g) A grand jury;
     (h) A legislative body or committee.
(2) It is not a defense to a prosecution under this section that the perjured testimony was corrected or retracted.

I believe points (a) to (h) could just be added to the sentence replacing the "any of the following" part without any issues, and I don't think point (2) needs to be its own point either, but who knows.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 09, 2021, 06:42:38 PM
My solution to "felony/misdemeanour" would be to take the existing definitions of A.5 and say: "a felony is punishable by anything on this list. A serious misdemeanour is punishable by civil disability on down. A regular misdemeanour is punishable by fines on down." And delete the bit about imprisonment.

Elsewhere in El Lexh (excluding the bits that are meant to be replaced by above), we would change "class A" to "regular" and "class C" to serious, and just delete "class I". Or we could roll the two categories of misdemeanour into each other, I don't mind.

I believe in the Wisconsin code class A is the most severe class, class C is the lowest class for misdemeanours and class I is the lowest one for felonies. The point of these classes is to determine the maximum allowed punishment for a given crime, which is relevant for fines or civil disability, since that is limited to three times the maximum allowed prison sentence of a class. So if we want to replace the class system we would have to either come up with class-like maximum punishments for each new category or add maximum allowed punishments to every crime.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on June 07, 2021, 10:18:08 PM
Here are the current subject headings of Wisconsin law which are part of Talossan law.

In addition to those, we could put crimes that we find repugnant to Talossanity but cannot try outselves (possibly still mostly using the Wisconsin definitions, like murder, manslaughter, sexual assault etc) into a separate category, and then add a proviso that Talossans who are credibly convicted of such a crime abroad are to be considered guilty of it in Talossa as well. This would get rid of mystery crimes and also allow us to react where appropriate.