The only way I could see gambling on this flying under the radar is if we do it for Talossan currency :P

That being said, initially I had thought of this as more of a "provincial bragging rights" thing than anything else.

As a follow-up to this, I've put together a rudimentary Xkoranate file for Talossan football. The odds for each type of score must sum to 1.00, so this is what I used:

• Goals (seven points) are held to be relatively rare, given that the goal is protected by a keeper. Odds: 0.17
• Field Goals (three points) are given the highest odds in the game, based on their prevalence in both American football and the relative "ease" with which they can be scored in other sports (Gaelic football / hurling come to mind, the method of scoring is identical down to the H-shaped goal with a net below the crossbar). Odds: 0.28
• Rumps (one point) are also estimated to be fairly common, as sort of a "cop-out" or "settling" on the part of someone attacking the goal -- it might be tough to put the ball in the net, but batting it between the goal and rump posts should be pretty easy if you can get close enough. Odds: 0.26
• Touchdowns (six points) aren't as common as field goals or rumps, but I get the feeling that most teams would want to defend their goal more than the end zone. I'm willing to lower the odds on this one from where they're at (and distribute the points among the above three scoring types as a result). Odds: 0.22
• Safeties (two points) strike me as being pretty rare, much the same as in American football. Odds: 0.05
• Moats (ten points to the other team) are a score that should almost never happen, assuming the sport is being played by people who have the foggiest idea what they're doing. :P (On second thought, maybe that means the odds on these should increase...) Odds: 0.02

On the first few attempts, two teams with equal skill values produce cumulative scores ranging from about 35 to 50.

This all makes sense. I would be interested ion assisting with the Department of Vexillology as well, as I have long enjoyed the design and study of flags.

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on February 12, 2022, 07:54:33 AM
In other news, I've actually looked at the first-best scorinator I could find (Xkoranate) to check how customisable it is. Turns out that you need scoring probabilities with each score type, and since Talossan Football not only has 5 regular types of scoring (as well as a special one) but also has never been played in real life before, figuring out how probable each type of score is or how high the expected total score of a normal game would be is pretty difficult.

Any ideas?

Xkoranate is what I use, I figured we could probably eyeball it some based on other types of football. Who says it has to be particularly scientific? Haha

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on February 12, 2022, 09:28:56 AM

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on February 12, 2022, 07:47:33 AM

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on February 12, 2022, 07:07:51 AM
Maybe we wouldn't want to use the provinces for teams, necessarily... maybe organizations or individuals could also sponsor teams? Like the Royal College could sponsor the Heralds, or the FDT could sponsor the Democrats? Would that be okay?

Not sure if having political parties sponsoring teams is that good an idea, considering that so much already revolves around politics... And considering how dead the provinces are in general, basing the teams on provinces instead would hopefully help with regional identities.

But shouldn't we build on activity where it exists? If we allow any group to sponsor a team, then we'll be able to build on success anywhere in the country as it happens. I guess I don't feel too strongly about it, but it's what makes sense to me.

No reason we couldn't do a bit of both, though I would prefer we avoid parties sponsoring teams and have provinces do it as a minimum, precisely for reasons of provincial identity/pride/bragging rights.

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial on February 12, 2022, 05:30:19 AM
Hm, the Scorinator idea is really interesting. I wonder if you could implement Talossan Football for one of those...

I have to imagine it's possible to write "custom" sports templates. The whole thing is pretty text-based as far as customization goes.

Given the picture on the wiki very much resembles a game of Gaelic football (as someone who's played as part of a hurling club, I know a Gaelic sports goal when I see one), I would wonder if it's possible to tinker with the file I have for that as a starting point.

Hi all,

I had an idea the other day for a way to perhaps help keep people checking in on the regular -- I am aware that Talossa has a (fantasy) football league, or at least did in the past. This is a similar idea, but it's not fantasy sports, but rather...fictional sports, if you will?

Long story short, there are programs out there called "scorinators" -- basically, they'll simulate pretty much any sport you want. Put in your teams, give them skill values, and it will generate semi-random results. Granted, these are teams that exist only on paper -- there are no rosters, no real people serve as managers, no trades to be made. But I guess I was just thinking that if nothing else we could have a league of some sport or another where each province has a team, something people can hang their hat on and hope to see do well (and more importantly, maybe want to check in on occasion to keep tabs on).

As an example -- using my favorite sport, naturally: hockey -- I came up with teams for a Liga Talossan de Hachi:

Capitais d'Atatürk                   (Atatürk Capitals)
Aquilas da Beniuto                   (Benito Eagles)
Bombardas da Cézembre                (Cézembre Bombers)
Republicans da Fiôvâ                 (Fiôvâ Republicans)
Pastours da Florencia                (Florencia Shepherds)
Soleiglhen da Maricopa               (Maricopa Suns)
Lachistaes da Maritiimi-Maxhestic    (Maritiimi-Maxhestic Lakers)
Rexhitais da Vuode                   (Vuode Royals)

Go easy on me, I'm still getting the hang of pluralization...

Quote from: Béneditsch Ardpresteir on February 12, 2022, 04:39:52 AM
Azul !

Thanks for your interest in joining the College.

However, you would have to join as a Fellow, after passing an otherwise easy test.

The recent promotions as 'Heralds' were of one long-serving member of the College, whilst the other had often helped the members in an unofficial capacity over the years.

Look forward to hear from you.

Dean BenArd

Of course! I understand I would need to put in my time, the title there is irrelevant as far as I am concerned :)

Quote from: Istefan Perþonest on February 11, 2022, 11:19:05 AM
Benito's provincial assembly elections are by party, but it doesn't have to be a registered national party. Just pick a "party name" and announce you're running under that banner.

Well, in that case, I'll be running as "leader" of the Parti da Reformaziun (assuming my Talossan is correct there, the Reform Party, no?)

Within Benito specifically, platform involves (A) looking into a repeal of the Florencia split, (B) a possible merger with Vuode if (A) doesn't go through, and (C), some updated provincial symbols (especially if (A) does happen).

I would like to submit my application to join the college as a herald. I've long been interested in heraldry, and have begun working on a few unrelated-to-Talossa heraldry projects in my free time. Any help I can give, I would be more than happy to.

Quote from: GV on February 03, 2022, 10:44:43 AM

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil on February 03, 2022, 10:03:01 AM
Are there any specific associations of colors with ideologies in Talossan politics? Like, purple with peculiarism, for example.

Good question and one no-one has ever really addressed before...

Talossan politics does not represent a single social, political, or societal continuity.  To be all-too-brief, the demise of the Conservative Loyalist Party in the Kingdom ca. late 2005 or in 2006 is the demise of the old continuity going back to Talossa's beginnings.

In Talossan political terms, that event represents a complete break in Talossan political history. And with that, we have two separate epochs in Talossan political history: 1979-2005 and 2005-present.  The old CLP was the old order, and the RUMP's filling the power and cultural vacuum at that time represents the beginning of the new order which persists to this day.

I mention all of this because an overt color-association with Talossan political ideologies was never really thought about in completely overt terms in the old or new orders, even to today. 

The Progressive Conservative Party (PC) existed from 1985 through ca. 2005 when JJ, its last member, finally dissolved it for good.  The PC was for many years the Party of Ben, JJ, Eiffler, Kane, etc. (incl. yours truly).  It also, at least in Ben's and JJ's minds, mimiced to an extent the ethos of the British Conservative Party, whose overt color continues to be blue. 

PC/blue is the one overt color association in Talossan politics of the old order, though combinations of red and green exist in many parties throughout both political orders.  The ZPT's colors were red, white, and green (JP can confirm this).  The third Liberal Party (dissolved ca. 2001 after the Second Mass Exodus) used the colors yellow and black.

Thus, old-order Talossan politics had blue as the color of conservatism, but in other parties, red was a time or two used as the color of 'challenge to the status quo', but I would need to do more research.

A stark change to this pattern was the revival of the Talossan Black Hand Party in autum 2002, Ben Madison's arch-conservative foil to the PC, which used the colors black-and-white.

In new-order Talossan politics (2005-present), there is no clear association between party colors and ideology save one: green and red being used almost ubiquitously to represent Talossan patriotism.

Hope this helps,

GV

It does indeed help! Sort of confirms what I had suspected (namely, that apart from showing patriotism, the colors generally have no association). Thank you!

Are there any specific associations of colors with ideologies in Talossan politics? Like, purple with peculiarism, for example.

How would one go about registering for the Assembly election?

On a related note, how does one go about filing to run for a provincial assembly?

(And since Benito has you vote for parties — what if I wanted to run as an independent?)

Then at least progress is being made!

Though from what I understand, that's just one of many things that has been improved, lol