The date in the title is incorrect - that should be June 1-12, with the 13th left for preparation of the ballot for the Cézembre election.  This information will move to CCC at https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?board=32.0

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on May 16, 2021, 09:43:11 PM

Quote from: xpb on May 16, 2021, 09:41:29 PM
Asking questions and getting responses like this -- rather than the other reasoned ones in this thread -- can really bring out the meaner and nastier tendencies, don't you think?

Yeah, how much did you consider "nastier tendencies" when you posted that you thought that your previous support for Reunision was a mistake? Perhaps you don't understand how such exclusionary tendencies make other Talossans feel unwelcome, and under threat.

Anyway I was sure that there was positive statute law which said "anyone who immigrates during the election period gets a vote". But I can't find it, so I'm feeling confused. Was there such a law and it was repealed?

I am certain that the will of the citizens will be expressed in the upcoming election, and that the sharp tone of the various arguments are indicative of the importance that is placed upon that endeavor.  There are but a fraction of citizens who have an account on these forums, but perhaps more will be encouraged to read and perhaps engage in debate.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on May 16, 2021, 07:14:19 PM
No. This was the line put up by King Robert in 2004, alleging that his political opponents were "stacking the immigration queue" against him. Placing new citizens under suspicion, rather than welcoming them, was one of the things that led to him eventually being run out of the country. It makes Talossa smaller, meaner, nastier and more cult-like. That tradition - like the belief that some people, i.e. those critical of the monarchy, don't belong in Talossa - is abhorrent.

... where is the section of the Organic or statute law which explicitly states that you get a vote if you immigrate during the election? Because I'm sure there is one.

Asking questions and getting responses like this -- rather than the other reasoned ones in this thread -- can really bring out the meaner and nastier tendencies, don't you think?

Quote from: Françal I. Lux on May 16, 2021, 09:10:46 PM
And needless to say—I informed the Chancery weeks in advance about my move and I have absolutely no nefarious intentions in my transfer. I would just like the Talossan province to reflect the actual place I'm actually living in catchment-wise.

It is great that you will be able to relocate to the appropriate province - and I did not wish to infer any problematic intent.  The situation just triggered some questions based upon the law that might apply and how it would be applied during election periods (which your relocation does not appear to effect).

QuoteWhy would we suspend immigration? The chances of someone completing the process from start to finish in the 15 days of an election are incredibly slim. If someone were to be granted citizenship while an election was ongoing, why would we not allow them to exercise their rights and vote?

I think the reason could be because of the perceptions of impropriety (not necessarily something nefarious, but just poor optics).

The ballotbin system previously used by Cézembre appears to no longer be available

A test of Electionbuddy has been sent via email to the members of l'Etats and the Kindgom SoS for a check of functionality.  Within that system the enabled settings are Administrator Access to Results Only after voting ends and Voter Access to Results Only after voting ends.  The test election will run from 16 May to 23 May and asks for a favorite flavor in a plurality vote (with write-in as per elections by the Chancery) and a favorite color (ranked choice of ROYGBIV with a minimum of one choice or up to 7) with no write-in (as per Cézembre election rules).  Both have the option to abstain from either or both questions and still submit a valid ballot, which may be done only once per unique registration code generated.

Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on May 16, 2021, 01:56:49 PM

Quote from: xpb on May 16, 2021, 12:48:29 PM

Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on May 16, 2021, 10:20:34 AM

Quote from: Françal I. Lux on May 16, 2021, 01:47:21 AM
I'd like to request a change of province. I have flown the coop from rural Middle Tennessee to the bustling cities of the San Francisco Bay Area. I believe I'll be in the Province of Maricopa now. I'd be happy to update any and all information with the office of the Secretary of State.

Done. Welcome to Maricopa.

Point of order - is it possible for someone to switch provinces after an election has begun and vote in the new province, or would that have to wait until the next election?
I am also interested in the rules for people to declare their intent to dwell in a different province by choice (where this is a situation of authorized geography of their dwelling)

As there is no senate election in either his previous province or Maricopa, there is no reason not to reassign him. He didn't move just to vote on another provinces senate race. Maricopa has an open legislature so that also has no impact. He also had previously notified the Chancery of his impending move prior to the election so I see no reason to not make the adjustment under current law. Nothing to see here.

and

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 16, 2021, 01:37:48 PM
Here's the relevant law:

7.3. No Talossan citizen may transfer his provincial citizenship to a different province, except by physically moving into that province or into the zone corresponding to that province. A citizens living inside or outside of Talossa, who moves permanently into an outside zone corresponding to a different province will be (re)assigned by the SoS to the province corresponding to the new geographic zone in accordance with the following provisions:
7.3.1 The provisions in this section do not apply unless the citizen explicitly consents to being reassigned. Whenever any Talossan wants to move his provincial assignment to the province in whose assigned area he actually lives, he may do so by notifying the Chancery. The move will be officially recognised once the Chancery has validated the request. (49RZ21 49RZ13)
7.3.2 The Secretary of State will be responsible for the various moves and assignments which result from this title. These moves and assignments will take effect on their official announcement by the Secretary of State. (49RZ21 47RZ2)

There does not appear to be anything preventing someone from physically moving, notifying the Chancery of this, and then voting in their new province (as long as they didn't already vote).  Everything seems on the up and up.

Thanks for both of the clarifications.  Now my question is that in some manner I was originally sorted to Cézembre under some previous protocol (perhaps to balance the population distribution) as the statute now reads:

7.10. CÉZEMBRE PROVINCE. Talossan citizens living in the following areas shall be assigned to Cézembre Province: the nations of Ireland, United Kingdom, Iceland, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Ukraine, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium, Luxembourg, France, Monaco and any European nation not listed elsewhere.

-- if I were becoming a citizen now, by my current domicile, I would be in Florencia.  Thus reading here in hypothetical cases - the only place I could choose if I wished to (which I do not) for relocation would be Florencia, and that no person who does not dwell in the nations listed in 7.10 can become a citizen of Cézembre?

If I am understanding this correctly, then as immigrants continue to come from other areas than these countries, then Cézembre is not able to increase its population? 

We are at 21 citizens at the moment out of 185 active. 

May a citizen petition the King, the Ziu, &/or the Cort to be relocated other than by that granted by physically dwelling within a zone?

Is there any suspension of new immigration during an election?

Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on May 16, 2021, 10:20:34 AM

Quote from: Françal I. Lux on May 16, 2021, 01:47:21 AM
I'd like to request a change of province. I have flown the coop from rural Middle Tennessee to the bustling cities of the San Francisco Bay Area. I believe I'll be in the Province of Maricopa now. I'd be happy to update any and all information with the office of the Secretary of State.

Done. Welcome to Maricopa.

Point of order - is it possible for someone to switch provinces after an election has begun and vote in the new province, or would that have to wait until the next election?
I am also interested in the rules for people to declare their intent to dwell in a different province by choice (where this is a situation of authorized geography of their dwelling)

I do not have my PSC but can be identified.

My votes are as follows:

Cosa
B - Balançeu/Balance

Referendum
55RZ5 - Austaneu
55RZ22 - Austaneu
55RZ23 - Për

Lord Warden
Cézembre: #152 - X. Pol Briga

Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on May 15, 2021, 08:07:40 AM

Quote from: Viteu on May 14, 2021, 09:08:05 PM

Quote from: xpb on May 14, 2021, 04:15:08 PM

You. Lost. The. Vote.

The fact that there is even a compromise is, per se, a compromise.

Er, no. An amendment to completely abolish the Monarchy could not have passed the Ziu.

Er, yes.  The Free Dems are happy to break the Monarchy and paste the title "king" (or queen) on a president.  They are happy to bargain with that which they do not possess.

No worries!

I am sure some of fine folks in the civil service can assist in matching or adjusting your account to that of the database at http://www.talossa.ca/

Quote from: xpb on May 05, 2021, 05:12:42 PM

Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on May 05, 2021, 12:33:48 PM
Azul leaders of Cézembre,

I am confirming with you that you wish that the PROVINCE conducts your Senäts election. Please respond as soon as possible if this is not correct.

Thank you,



Dr. Txec dal Nordselvă,
Secretary of State

Acknowledged as correct.

As seneschal -- acknowledging my error on election procedure, and now Lord Warden candidate -- I reverse this acknowledgement and ask the Chancery to conduct the election for Lord Warden for Cézembre.

I will still attempt to conduct provincial elections June 14-30 with proper notice by email to all citizens on or before May 16.

Quote from: GV on May 14, 2021, 05:59:35 PM

Quote from: xpb on May 14, 2021, 05:18:05 PM

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on May 14, 2021, 05:10:53 PM
That's right, keep talking about the FreeDems as if we were the only party that mattered; that's how we get an absolute majority this time

I suppose it is a possibility if enough citizens want a Republic instead of a Kingdom.

Let me deflect a bit and ask you this, how does John's going AWOL for five-six months for no good reason serve as a positive witness for the lifetime monarchy?

I believe the time line, taking place during a period of heath issues on a global scale, also included the appointment of a Regent as requested administrative support.  Perhaps the King was not involved in detail, but who is determining the "without leave" portion of your statement?  Is that you as leader of the elected assembly?   Do you possess the authority to order another citizen to do or not do what they choose?  Or, instead are you just complaining as a pretext to acquire democratic control of the Royal powers?

I made another voluntarily taxation amount equivalent and in addition to the Balançeu/Balance party registration to be added to this table.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on May 14, 2021, 05:10:53 PM
That's right, keep talking about the FreeDems as if we were the only party that mattered; that's how we get an absolute majority this time

I suppose it is a possibility if enough citizens want a Republic instead of a Kingdom.