I'd like the Clark the Non-Hereditary Monarchy Amendment: https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=61

OK, the text in the first post is what I intend to Clark. Please make sure it does not have any fatal errors.

Alright, looks like this wouldn't work in practice.

Alternatively, we could instead say the committee is made up of "the X citizens with the longest tenure"

Quote from: Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on April 26, 2020, 10:48:11 PM
7 years means 114 of 187 total citizens would be the committee.  6 makes it a 122-person committee instead.  I love the idea of a committee composed of 61% (or 65%) of the whole.

Very fair point, although I suspect not everyone who was eligible would be involved.

You know I am a sucker for graphs, so, given this graph, where would you make the cut off?

Quote from: Eiric S. Bornatfiglheu on April 20, 2020, 05:58:19 PM
I'm not sure that having such a low bar adds any prestige to the office of the Monarchy.  If prestige is desired, then even potential nominators should be strongly vetted.

It would not be a low bar to be nominated by Talossa's oldest citizens.

Quote from: Açafat del Val on April 20, 2020, 03:23:43 PM

Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on April 14, 2020, 03:58:59 PM
OK, how about this as a starting point for discussion

-Nominations are put forward by a committee composed of all Talossans who have been a citizen for longer than 7 years.
-Nominations must be approved by 2/3 of both houses
-Confirmation in a referendum

In particular tagging @Glüc da Dhi S.H.

This proposal specifically? Okay. So what do you have against changing 7 years to 6, and modifying the referendum to require 3/5 approval instead of a simple majority?

For what it's worth (and I did read the reasons why), I also don't think that a 'committee' would work very well. Who selects the committee? And wouldn't that process be as political if not more political than merely leaving the choice to the Ziu? Perhaps the committee could be comprised of certain officials (the Senior Judge, the Mencei, etc.), but then everyone else would feel left out.

The Cosa is accessible to everyday Talossans. If someone wants a voice in choosing the next King, they simply can become an MC. Plus the fact that the choice is ultimately approved (or rejected) by a referendum anyways.

It would seem so much better to just leave the nominations to the Ziu, i.e. members of the Cosa and Senate, rather than mire the process under more bureaucracy under the guise of 'fairness' or 'inclusivity'.

Any particular reason for having it be six years rather than seven?

The Committee is just anyone who has been a citizen for that long; it would not need to be selected by anyone.

If you are, for whatever reason, finding yourself with more time on your hands than usual, why not write for La S'chinteia? It's tough out there for magazines with one regular contributor. Articles can be about pretty much anything, Talossa-related or not.

"If you want to write it, we want to publish it"

I hereby nominate Alexandreu Davinescu to the Uppermost Cort.

Quote from: Açafat del Val on April 20, 2020, 02:58:06 PM
Then... why did you vote on a current bill which also causes the Túischac'h to be elected?

Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on April 19, 2020, 10:29:28 AM
Për on all

Obviously you're okay with having the Túischac'h elected rather than appointed. Ergo, what would be your critiques of this bill?

Oops, when I said that I temporarily forgot all of the other discussion about it.

That said, I do not like how this bill gives each MC only one vote, and I do not like how the Mencei would serve an entirely different house than the one they were elected to in the absence of a Túischac'h

Experience has taught us the method that gets us closest to "a present, incumbent, active, and loyal Túischac'h" is to appoint one

Quote from: Açafat del Val on April 19, 2020, 09:27:07 PM
"A more established process", such as?

The one I currently propose

Glüc and I had a conversation about this on the video chat a few weeks ago, and he convinced me that having a more established process for selecting a new monarch would give the office more prestige.

Before I comment on the content of the bill, I will point out that it amends a version of the OrgLaw that is no longer in force.

IIRC, it used to be this way but the Cosa could never get around to holding an election.