Please put this on the Clark, @Sir Lüc .

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I had to do a couple of hours of driving today, and I spent most of it with this album on repeat.  It's quirky, deep, funny, and replete with amazing beats.

https://tidal.com/album/88028445/u

In case it can possibly need to be said still, I have every confidence in Tafial as a guide to our language. I do not think his competence is in question, no matter his attitude towards our founder.

Time and time again, when I have needed help with the language, he has been there. This ranges from a full set of assistance with translations when I served as regent to multifaceted and complex assistance with proofreading and ideas on our recent language lessons.

I just fought tooth and nail to ensure he would also be elected Tuischach, even though we are generally associated with different political parties, so my general confidence in his judgment cannot also be in doubt.

I hope the URL will not try to block this legislation again - especially now that it's improved, has support from multiple parties, and since it's so acceptable it's mostly copied here.

Still, I would love to talk about the specifics here. We might just agree and amend the bill if we could discuss it.

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be on Yesterday at 01:37:25 PMNot necessarily myself, or any other future Opposition Leader. Could be anyone. Could be Miestra, could be Iac Moritzescu. Anyone who shares the concerns of the Immigration Minister about a given prospective citizen. Interestingly enough, Immigration is actually one area that the Opposition has had a stake in before, the difference there being that back in the day it was only the Leader.
Also, to be clear, the donkey in the metaphor is an immigration process in need of accountability and transparency.

But what is the actual reason here? Most of this bill is mine, except for this change (and the phone thing which you actually don't seem that enamored with). So you must have some pretty strong and specific reasons why this is an improvement.

Quote from: Mic'haglh Autófil, O.Be on Yesterday at 01:37:25 PMAs this bill does everything the Public Process Act does and then some, it renders the PPA redundant. On the upside, this means that I am certainly open to co-sponsorship from the Seneschal (as well as Sir Tafial) in return for dropping the PPA, to make sure credit is distributed as deserved. Unfortunately, with the Government's actions early in their tenure eroding what little trust they enjoyed among the wider Ziu, I do not believe the appetite exists from our side to engage in what I'll call "Wimpy-style dealmaking" ("I'll gladly pay you Tuesday for a hamburger today"), so I think it's best to try and work on a single compromise bill rather than to play hardball.

Well, our flagship bill that we campaigned on for months and that I have already moved to the CRL and which has bipartisan sponsorship is going to move forward, obviously. I'm glad that you liked it enough to duplicate it for the most part here, but it doesn't make any sense for us to abandon it in favor of a nearly identical bill with your name on it, lol.

Because the changes are actually about a different thing and in a different place, though, it would be relatively easy to isolate them so that they can pass on their own merits. Our bill is about making sure that it's impossible to secretly block an immigrant, well this one is about changing a process so that it requires your agreement. Presumably the URL is not again threatening to block the Public Process Act, after all, so it makes more sense to separate these things out.

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Quote from: King Txec on Yesterday at 11:18:34 AMWith regret, the Whereas clauses are so loaded with bias and possible untruths, if this bill were to make it to a vote in the Ziu as written, and should it pass, I will veto it. I mean seriously, you weren't even alive in 1979 so saying that President Carter ruled with an iron fist is extremely melodramatic.

There are citizens who were here during his rule and your clauses refute, without any direct knowledge, their experiences.

-Txec R

I actually understood that to be classic Talossan hyperbole.

Pardon?

That first whereas clause seemed to me to be a classic use of hyperbole, referring to our founding as freeing us from an iron fist when the person in question was not very tyrannical. We use that kind of language all the time when it comes to things like our founding.

Quote from: King Txec on Yesterday at 11:18:34 AMWith regret, the Whereas clauses are so loaded with bias and possible untruths, if this bill were to make it to a vote in the Ziu as written, and should it pass, I will veto it. I mean seriously, you weren't even alive in 1979 so saying that President Carter ruled with an iron fist is extremely melodramatic.

There are citizens who were here during his rule and your clauses refute, without any direct knowledge, their experiences.

-Txec R

I actually understood that to be classic Talossan hyperbole.

On the bill, I would suggest that a good first step would be making a visitor's account for him, and reaching out to invite him to use it. And the bill could be a good barometer of the nation's openness to that.

Maybe we could hold off on this vote until we have a chance to chat with him? Another phone call to invite him to join us here, maybe. Would that be okay?

The same reason that we get along is what applies here: I want everyone to feel safe and welcome, as long as they're not going after anyone, and that includes both you and him and people who might very reasonably wonder if he still has the same views as before. You might not be aware of this, but he was rather hateful and went to some lengths to do things like deadname some of our citizens specifically to offend them.

That was a long time ago, though, so there's every possibility that he's just completely changed in that respect. A lot of folks have grown in the subsequent years.

If that's true, that'll be an easy answer for him. But he has expressed different beliefs in the past, and I think it's very reasonable to ask him about it.

I'd be interested in some of the following things, some of which people have already brought up:

Today, we are a very welcoming country to people of every belief and background. There have been multiple seneschals who are transgender, for example, and people have political beliefs that range from anarchist to conservative theocrat. Would you be comfortable living in peace with all and sundry?

Many people feel that you leaned very heavily on the law and others to try to maintain control of the country. Others have pointed out that you might feel that it was your creation to steer. Regardless of that, could you be a citizen among all citizens?

Our national language has evolved over time, and with some difficulty, our language committee has arrived at relative unity. Is that something you're okay with?

It feels like the phone number is still a pretty important requirement to have. There are a couple of applications from the past couple of days to be processed, and I think the main way I would check their authenticity if I doubted them was to call their phone numbers. What are the changes that have happened in how people are reachable? I'm not 100% sure what that means.

So the other change from the main bill is that you would need to sign off on the public halting of anyone's application process? That is a pretty dramatic change, S:reu Opposition Leader, because I'm not aware of much else in the law where the Opposition gets to share government powers. Could you tell me more what you mean by the carrot and the stick? Who is the donkey in the metaphor?


The last thing I'll note is that your bill as written conflicts with the Public Process Act, so probably we will need to tweak it so that it can be considered alongside that.

I am reluctant to jump right into this with both feet, since I think there's still a lot of raw feelings on both sides. However, maybe this is the start of something?

Personally, I would really rather we had another conversation with him before we got right to voting. I would be happy to authorize an account for him if he would be willing to come chat with us.

Well said! A wonderful speech!

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on December 21, 2025, 12:23:40 PM

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on December 21, 2025, 12:15:22 PM@Breneir Tzaracomprada , do you still have the chain?  I'd like to have it for the Living Cosa and official oath.

I do, it's still sitting in my closet. PM your address and I will send it off

Were you able to get this in the mail? I sent you my address. Let me know how much it is, and your venmo, and I will reimburse you. Not trying to rush you too much, but I would really very much like to have it for the start of things.

Okay, but I was really first asking about the phone number thing. You don't explain that in the bill or anywhere else. Could you please unpack that for us?

If you're going to see Avatar 3, then you will already be receiving sufficient punishment!

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Quote from: þerxh Sant-Enogat on December 26, 2025, 03:28:00 AMToday is the 41st anniversary of the creation of the Kingdom of Talossa!
Our Seneschal wishes everyone a happy Independance Day on X/Twitter, Facebook, LinkedIn, Threads, Bluesky, Instagram, TikTok, r/Talossa and r/Micronations

It is the 46th anniversary, not the 41st.

-Txec R

What I usually end up doing is looking up the year template on the wiki! I don't know why I can't remember what year we're on at this point.

@þerxh Sant-Enogat , for most of the socials you'll probably be able to edit them without much trouble. Thank you for your hard work!

We have so many citizens who celebrate Christmas, either because of their religiosity or because of cultural reasons. To all of them, a very merry Christmas! I hope you get everything you asked for this year!

@Sir Lüc , please move this to the CRL.

@Sir Lüc , please move this to the CRL.