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Show posts MenuQuote from: Ian Plätschisch on May 17, 2021, 12:04:09 PM
I must say that the pledge of "we won't make more changes to the Monarchy unless King John makes us angry again" is not very reassuring, because the FreeDems are often made angry by him (for some good reasons and some bad). Therefore it would not be hard for them to motivate taking away more powers if they were so inclined.
The proposal is meant to make it possible to remove the King without removing more of the Monarchy's powers.
Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on May 06, 2021, 09:54:02 AMQuote from: Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù on May 06, 2021, 02:44:07 AMQuote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on May 03, 2021, 11:28:12 AMQuote from: Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù on May 03, 2021, 08:57:13 AMQuote from: Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù on April 28, 2021, 07:50:19 AM
* Full Party name: League of Centre Conservatives
* Party Initials: LCC
* 50 word statement: Vote LCC to help Talossa reunify and become an inspiring beacon once more. We seek to provide infrequent opportunities for "Votes of Confidence" in the King, while maintaining all other aspects of the Monarchy. Immigration, engagement with the micronational community, and language are our top priorities.
* Party Leader(s): @Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù
* Candidate list (incomplete):
1.@Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù
2.@Jordan Placie
3. @Danihel Txechescu
Party Platform: http://wiki.talossa.com/League_of_Centre_Conservatives
Thank you. I have updated your Cosa list and party URL for the ballot.
Sorry to do it again but needs must. Removed MC 3 and updated updated 50 word statement.
I have updated your information. Thank you.
Quote from: Istefan Perþonest on May 09, 2021, 08:49:17 PMYou missed one, the pope, modern day, still a fully fledged nation.Quote from: Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù on May 09, 2021, 04:32:35 PMYou do understand that except for Andorra in the modern era (and that as a side-effect of France abolishing its monarchy in favor of a fixed-term presidency), all of your examples of "elective monarchy" there are cases where the monarch was elected for life, not for a limited term? Much like, well, the current King of Talossa was elected?Quote from: xpb on May 08, 2021, 07:37:30 PM
Also posted at https://talossa.net/members/xpb/activity/443/ (you will need a complimentary TalossaNET account to login)
Balançeu / Balance believes there should not be a change to an elected office called "King" similar to a President (such as occurs in 12 other global countries such as Armenia, Azerbaijan, Burundi, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Syria, and Tajikistan every 7 years).
Good sir, doth thou ever hear of the holy roman empire? or the kingdom of Scotland? or even the Byzantium? Dutch Republic? Poland Lithuanian commonwealth? Ever heard of the pope? Andorra? Do you know what they all have in common? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elective_monarchy
Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on May 09, 2021, 04:55:53 PMQuote from: Ian Plätschisch on May 09, 2021, 04:21:49 PMQuote from: Eðo Grischun on May 09, 2021, 09:18:29 AMEssentially to stop the process from going to quickly: if the King happened to become briefly unpopular around the time of the vote, the waiting period would prevent him from being immediately replaced, and makes sure the decision is well-considered
What is the reason behind the six month delay between a failed "VoC" and the second convening?
Six months is an entire Cosa term. Remember that Talossan politics happens in "dog years". Three months is surely more reasonable.
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 09, 2021, 04:53:30 PMQuote from: Txosuè Éiric Rôibeardescù on May 09, 2021, 04:32:35 PMAs has been pointed out by a prominent Talossan, the term "king" has been applied to so many different sorts of positions that are selected in so many different ways that it's essentially meaningless in a technical way. But it's typically used in a colloquial manner to refer to an office that is, in general, as distanced as possible from partisan politics and which is invested with some certain amount of power. For example, if you were to tell an American citizen or a German citizen that their president was basically the same as a king, that would be taken as a comment implying that they had a lot of power outside of normal electoral politics.Quote from: xpb on May 08, 2021, 07:37:30 PM
Also posted at https://talossa.net/members/xpb/activity/443/ (you will need a complimentary TalossaNET account to login)
Balançeu / Balance believes there should not be a change to an elected office called "King" similar to a President (such as occurs in 12 other global countries such as Armenia, Azerbaijan, Burundi, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Syria, and Tajikistan every 7 years).
Good sir, doth thou ever hear of the holy roman empire? or the kingdom of Scotland? or even the Byzantium? Dutch Republic? Poland Lithuanian commonwealth? Ever heard of the pope? Andorra? Do you know what they all have in common? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elective_monarchy
Think of it like "food." In some places, they consume foodstuffs like cicadas or grubs as a matter of course. And that's absolutely fine. I'm going to hunt up some cicadas pretty soon myself. But if you invited someone to dinner and only served them grubs and cicadas, odds are pretty good most people would be upset if you hadn't explained beforehand! That's not because it's somehow wrong to eat cicadas and it's not because cicadas are "not food" by a technical definition, obviously. But there's a ton of things that qualify as food to someone at some time, that nonetheless don't come across as expected "food" to most people these days: mice, guinea pigs, dogs, rotting shark, etc.
So if someone says that the proposal would eliminate the monarchy and institute a presidency, I think it should be pretty clear that they don't mean it in a technical political science sense, right? Language is about communication, and they're trying to communicate that the idea of "king" means something more specific than "word we can use for just about any possible position in a government."
Quote from: xpb on May 08, 2021, 07:37:30 PM
Also posted at https://talossa.net/members/xpb/activity/443/ (you will need a complimentary TalossaNET account to login)
Balançeu / Balance believes there should not be a change to an elected office called "King" similar to a President (such as occurs in 12 other global countries such as Armenia, Azerbaijan, Burundi, Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea, Gabon, Ireland, Israel, Italy, Syria, and Tajikistan every 7 years).