Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on March 29, 2022, 07:05:42 PM
Yes, the one associating me with the CH terrorists.

Don't play dumb, AD. I told you over and over again at the time that religious bigotry was one of the motivations for Rough Music.

I see you saying that there, but I honestly don't remember this being any kind of problem, since I thought you were harassing me just because you were the target of criticism from my cartoonists, not because of that.  Looking at the issue now, I guess I'm not understanding how it's a reference to you even now.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B3vEJJeQsMdlQmJtVWpDc3lMaEU/view?usp=sharing&resourcekey=0-gtgobtD_vaVPDYLbPV7SjQ

I guess that connection would make sense if you were threatening people, but I don't remember you ever doing so.

EDIT: I just reread that thread you linked.  Ugh.  I'm done with this conversation.  Can't risk you starting that up again.  I apologize for mentioning anything about cartoons, I withdraw my offer, I'm sorry, and never mind

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on March 29, 2022, 06:59:01 PM
The one which directly references the Prophet of Islam, of course

The one published in our Charlie Hebdo edition, after a bunch of journalists were murdered for publishing a picture of Muhammad?

Can you tell me which one?  I think this page shows all of them: http://www.berichttalossan.com/search/label/ESM

Was it after I cut him loose with issue #26?

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on March 29, 2022, 06:20:38 PM
Not the creepy guy who did those Islamophobic cartoons I hope

I don't remember any Islamophobic cartoons, and a quick search on old Witt didn't turn up any use of the term (or Islamophobe, islamophobia, etc).  The only unethical thing I remember is that "Eric S. Mildew" once faked a cartoon exchange to get me to publish something I wouldn't have otherwise done, and I fired him for it.  It's possible that someone published an Islamophobic cartoon and you just never said anything, I guess, although it seems more likely you're just misremembering.  I haven't read the back issues in years, though.

Love it. I should email my old cartoonists and see if any of them are interested in contributing.

I emailed him. He has not been very active in a while, but as we've seen that can all change as people get interested in involved again. Maybe this will be the thing that does it for him!

-NRH

I'm not a math guy, but I guess I don't understand why one number doesn't win. That's what I would have assumed - you buy one or more tickets for a dollar each, and if you buy the winning number, you get whatever the pot is for that drawing. Or split it if someone else picks the same number. Pretty low stakes, very simple. Although maybe a dollar wouldn't be enough of a pot if only a handful of people enter, so it might make sense to start off with pricier tickets.

But you guys are engineers and math people, so there are probably good reasons that I don't understand.

We could probably do what Rouge Elephant advises now, and if in some future year we want to redeem the fellowship, we can do that. Would that work?

Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on March 26, 2022, 04:04:03 PM

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on March 26, 2022, 03:18:05 PM
I further propose that that earlier list of the inactive has stood for a long time, and we should act with some common sense about these inactive folks, and be a bit more consistent. We should create the unnamed positions of Fellow emeritus and Pursuivant emeritus.  Heralds should probably be permitted to keep their titles for life, even when moved to an emeritus status, as now.  Then we should make the following changes:

The Odd Fellow, Iustì Canun, should be stripped of all office and privilege, and he should be formally ejected from the College and stricken from its rolls.

The former Lookout Fellow, Sir Tamorán dal Navâ, UrN, the former Long Fellow, Davíu Lundescu, the former Well-Met Fellow, Tímoþi Asmourescu, and the former Oblivious Auditing Fellow, Pôl d'Aurìbuérg, should all be appointed as Fellows emeritus.  They are welcome to return and assume a named position at any time (assuming they are Talossan citizens at the time).

The Mellow Fellow, Owen Edwards, the Well-Met Fellow, Cresti d. I. Nouacastra, and the Jolly Good Fellow, Alèxandreu Soleighlfred, should all be moved from their positions and appointed as Fellows emeritus.

The Penzance Pursuivant, Sir Mick Preston, UrN should be moved from his position and appointed as Pursuivant emeritus.

I'd also like to see that the title of The Odd Fellow is never able to be used again by any future fellow.

Yes, you're right. If you don't have any objection to any of the rest of this, should we see what the Dean or SKA thinks?

I further propose that that earlier list of the inactive has stood for a long time, and we should act with some common sense about these inactive folks, and be a bit more consistent. We should create the unnamed positions of Fellow emeritus and Pursuivant emeritus.  Heralds should probably be permitted to keep their titles for life, even when moved to an emeritus status, as now.  Then we should make the following changes:

The Odd Fellow, Iustì Canun, should be stripped of all office and privilege, and he should be formally ejected from the College and stricken from its rolls.

The former Lookout Fellow, Sir Tamorán dal Navâ, UrN, the former Long Fellow, Davíu Lundescu, the former Well-Met Fellow, Tímoþi Asmourescu, and the former Oblivious Auditing Fellow, Pôl d'Aurìbuérg, should all be appointed as Fellows emeritus.  They are welcome to return and assume a named position at any time (assuming they are Talossan citizens at the time).

The Mellow Fellow, Owen Edwards, and the Jolly Good Fellow, Alèxandreu Soleighlfred, should all be moved from their positions and appointed as Fellows emeritus.

The Penzance Pursuivant, Sir Mick Preston, UrN should be moved from his position and appointed as Pursuivant emeritus.

Okay, I took a first pass at consolidating the rules and reorganizing them.  There was a lot of repetition and the organization didn't make any sense to me.  I also added some info about badges and banners.  Right now it's on the talk page:  http://wiki.talossa.com/Talk:Rules_of_Heraldry

I'll fiddle with the formatting a bit more, and simplify a bit more. A couple of the sections are a bit too long and need subheadings, and some categories need to be made into lists. But anyone have any thoughts thus far?

This is a really good summary of what's happening! Good work!

Oh, I see. So we would just provide a registry for people for their badges? That makes sense.

I'm about halfway through trying to straighten up the rules of heraldry. How about I just add some language about this too? Then you guys can edit it or make suggestions before we send it to the SKA?

-NRH

I think these designs are looking amazing! One minor bit of feedback is that the different colored fonts on the obverse read like they should be grouped and read together, rather than following down the column. Took me a second to parse them. Maybe that's just because I'm looking at it on a screen, though?

Quote from: Dr. Txec Róibeard dal Nordselvă, Esq., O.SPM, SMM on March 25, 2022, 02:58:17 PM
It seems that in the UK, for example, badges are granted by their College of Arms, normally when granting new arms, and included in their Letters Patent. I would think that if we're to begin using these ourselves, it should be regulated by the RTCoA and based on either new grants of arms or if requested, upon previously granted arms.

Here is an example of my own Arms in badge form.



-REH

I believe that is your arms, just on a round escutcheon, right? For a badge, you could adopt a scroll or basically any other device you wanted on a background of white and red divided probably in the same way as your arms, but maybe completely differently.

It does look like a UK started regulating badges and treating them as something you can request when you request arms, but I was charmed at the idea that there could be a device that people could adopt whenever they wanted or even change, and that would be appropriate to have on livery or members of the household. That's why I brought it up... if we treated them differently then arms, then It might be a fun new thing for people to mess with. If there's one thing I've learned from observing heraldry for so many years with an avid interest, it's that people really like discussing symbolism about themselves and their interests, so giving people more chances to mess around with that seems like it would be a good thing. And if it was free from the usual constraints of the college and the king, it would give people a chance to experiment with different ideas. My daughters made me think of this... I love chess and love the trappings of nonsense feudalism and clever tactics, and so I was thinking of that when designing my arms all those years ago. And that's great for my house in perpetuity! But I want them to have the chance to express themselves in a similar way, and badges will be a means for that.

I'm not married to the idea either way, but it's just something I was thinking about and thought I would throw out there to start a discussion.

-NRH