I'm more than happy to hop in on a Zoom too

The Free Democrats of Talossa, the League of Centre Conservatives and the Talossan National Congress are pleased to announce that we have concluded an agreement to form a Coalition Government in the 56th Cosa. Under this agreement, MCs for all three parties will vote for Txoteu Davinescu as the new Seneschál in the July Clark.

Please note:

1)   this agreement is still subject to ratification by the members of the Coalition parties in accordance with their internal rules.

2)   this agreement does not cover the question of the Monarchy, which is the subject of ongoing discussions between the coalition parties and other parties with Cosa representation.

The full coalition agreement is available at https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m70q-r08Qd7zbEZBM98bJ-wok053a-2TOvxpZaJLj4A/edit?ts=60bc1de7#.

I claim my seat

I second the nomination

The Free Democrats of Talossa will seek to form a Government in the 56th Cosa under myself, Txoteu Davinescù, as Seneschál.

Notwithstanding the future of the monarchy (which will be the subject of separate discussions) we wish to form a Government which consists of the most active Talossans, united around a common program for administration, rather than constitutional ideology; helped by extra-cabinet appointees and Permanent Secretaries chosen for competence and enthusiasm.

We believe that that program should center, first and foremost, tackling the crisis of activity; this means increasing immigration, but more importantly engaging with new citizens and citizens who have become inactive.

Other Free Democrat priorities will be upgrading the National Database and integrating it with the National Webspace; working with SIGN on official Talossan translations and Talossan learning materials; ensuring security of Talossa's finances and property; and improving the quality and process of law-making. Our full program is available at our website: https://freedemstalossa.wordpress.com/2021/04/24/free-democrats-for-the-56th-cosa-election-may-2021/

We encourage all party leaders who are interested in this approach to make contact and join formal discussions.

Respectfully,
Txoteu Davinescu, O.SPM

Cosa - FREEDEMS

Referendums - PER to ALL

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 15, 2021, 06:15:02 PM

Quote from: Françal I. Lux on May 15, 2021, 04:42:25 PM
If it were up to me, I'd have this anachronistic, outdated institution scraped for a fully functional unitary Republic. The fact that I am willing to embrace this compromise and stomach the idea of having to call another human being "king" and "your highness" for the sake of contentious peace should count for something.

See, here's the thing: as far as I can tell, neither you nor any other Republican actually feels bound by this.  Are you saying that if your party leader Clarks a bill which would rename the king to "chief executive" or "noble leader" or "president," that you would vote "contra" on her bill?  Or that you would vote "contra" on a bill which altered the king's purview over appointments?

I think out of everything I've experienced during my time in Talossa is the realization that AD will argue with a brick wall.

Why can't someone's answer be enough? To put it simply, a majority of the nation wants to compromise and move forward into a brighter day... counter to you arguing with anyone that doesn't share your worldview. The HC will not be a shot in the dark or a historical oddity... it is an agreement between the majority of the nation that see the current system as it concerns the head of state is broken and needs revision. Like it or not... the Historic Compromise is an incredible opportunity that, unlike our current system of "absent monarch", will allow the people of Talossa to chose their own course and THAT is what the FreeDems and the Historic Compromise is about both this election season & beyond!

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on May 03, 2021, 08:49:53 PM

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN on May 03, 2021, 08:43:51 PM
I should also note that, if the Baron of Beef were sincere, he would offer a simple compromise: "we will support 55RZ21 in exchange for an entrenchment of the current honours system". I'd go with that.

I'll ignore the weird taunting with names, since I understand that you're having a hard time keeping your composure after I dared to say that someone "spilled the beans."

But I will say that I am extremely grateful for your support of my point, and I will focus on that. Notice how she is admitting the central point? Nothing else is included in this "compromise."

No one "spilled the beans" AD... unlike some high tower citizens of this Kingdom, I have my own mind... my own thoughts... and my own goals. I don't need John whispering in my ear or Vice versa. I brought up a discussion topic because unlike you, I want everyone involved in topics & ideas. It's an idea... a personal one that I decided to bring up because I wanted to see where others stood. I assure you, I am likely as close to a total opposite of someone like you... you Lordship. I want people to see me for who I am and to trust that unlike you... I don't have some "secret agenda". My agenda is the HC. To see it become law EXACTLY as it stands and secure the future of this Kingdom from manipulators and schemers. I deal with that horseshit enough in my birth country and I refuse to let someone like you piss on my good name and the hard work I have done & will for years to come.

Again... you have a question. Bring it. Don't pussy foot around it. Be a man and ask me to my face

AD... that was my decision on the Jurists and as Miestra's acting AG, it was /my/ call. I selected whom I felt would be a good fit and as far as the good Doc is concerned, there was no better candidate. As I told you then, we all have to wear multiple hats to make things run around here and I refused to hear nonsense when it came to his appointment.

Gen. Davinescu

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on April 30, 2021, 06:32:06 AM
Your incoming party leader has posted 59 times, for example.  I think you may have misidentified the problem.

Since I was dragged into this by your nonsense AD, I will more than happily address your "concern" on my posting rates.

In general, if I "speak"... It's because I have something to say. I find it incredibly depressing that John has /barely/ over a third of my posting numbers on this platform. Let me say that again... the King of an active nation, has a third... a third... the number of posts over the past few years than a Peacetime Minster of Defence.

That's not just sad, it's embarrassing. If he wanted to be the boss, he should have at the very least... been a bit more active than me on Witt over the last few years. But, there's even more to that. I might not trumpet away on Witt like some do... but my Prime Minster could always... ALWAYS... reach me, generally within about five minutes. And I have always been active with the Cabinet and greatly enjoyed working behind the scenes with some incredibly passionate Talossans.

That's what being a part of the leadership of this nation is... teamwork. The first step to teamwork is being here. You were WAAAY more involved than I have ever seen the King. The serving Regent shouldn't make his King look bad... but in a way you kinda did. As frustrating as you can be at times, you did the job we in the Government have generally expected out of John for years. That's why the HC is so important... to give the people a chance to keep the Crown fully in check. That way, when someone is tired of being King/Queen/Monarch, they simply bow at at the end of their term.... or get removed be the people for lack of involvement.

Gen. Davinescu, O.SPM   

I must respectfully disagree with your statement of your lack of desire to abdicate the throne. You practically already have. Your appointed Regents have posted more in Witt since I became a citizen than you have. I have posted more than you have. Almost every active citizen of this nation has posted/interacted with Witt in the past four years than you have. So, Your Highness, I think we all understand quite well your total lack of desire to be involved as Monarch. I look forward to the day when we have an active Monarch that does more than hand off power and randomly show up to annoy the Government.

Quote from: GV on April 22, 2021, 11:08:51 PM

Quote from: Þon Txoteu É. Davinescu, O.SPM on April 21, 2021, 05:11:35 PM
Azul & Good Afternoon Friends,
I wanted to take a moment, considering the sudden of the Crown, to open a discussion that I feel His Majesty should be involved in... not just a Regent. I believe the recent actions of the King in the awarding a title of Peerage for the first time in nearly a decade for essentially babysitting the Kingdom for six months and additionally sidestepping the Government's recommendation for an Order of Knighthood, that the time has come for a complete overhaul of the system of Peerages and Knighthoods of the Kingdom.

Does that mean that I think they should go away... no, not even close. But I do believe that as we move forward with the Historic Compromise, we must pause and re-evaluate how our nation's highest Honours are divvied up. Peerages aren't something to be handed out for simple tasks... like warming a seat while the King is away.... again. Peerages are, by definition, not just the award of title but of land. While I applaud the efforts of the former Regent, awarding him a land grant is incredibly inappropriate for the service rendered. At best, adding the Grade of Knight Commander to the Order of the Nation (L'Urderi per la Naziun) for Sir Alexandreu... not a Peerage title.

I propose that, moving forward, Peerages and Knighthoods may originate from either the Crown or the Government... but, specifically in the case of Peerages, must be approved by both. Knighthoods, depending on Grade, may too originate from either... with the Government generally taking lead on approvals of Member, Officer, Commander/Knight and the Crown on Knight Commander & Knight Grand Cross.

Generally, I feel if we are going to have Peerages & Knightly Orders... we should do so in the manner that literally all other recognized nations do theirs.

Respectfully,
Gen. Txoteu Davinescu, O.SPM     

This entire discussion, while important, is a distraction from the Historic Compromise.  I agree with all who echo this sentiment.

The last thing I want is to distract from the far more important Historic Compromise and I'm more than little annoyed that some would be against open and free discussion on topics that are important to citizens. I started this thread to start a discussion, over a topic I am passionate about and interested in. Isn't that why we're micronationalist?! To come to this amazing sandbox and have discussions & make decisions on something larger than ourselves? I love this country and I take what we do here seriously... as the Baron and the King should! We have a country, our country... this Kingdom is NOT John or AD or Miestra or me! This Kingdom exists because we all chose to be here and be a part of something historic and incredibly special. If you wanna pause this discussion, that's fine... because the HC is important and I don't want it's opponents to use this thread as a way to weaken the amazing progress we've made. But if we pause any discussion over such a reason, does it not devalue the importance of public square that the Witt is? We all have a voice... have the right to have spirited debate, and as the incoming Leader of the FreeDems... I will champion the rights of all citizens to bring their concerns and thoughts to the Witt. Whether I agree with you or you agree with me, shouldn't we all have the right to engage in the public square?! I say yes! Because the more active we are, leading and engaging in spirited discussion... the better we all are!

Davinescu

Quote from: Sir Alexandreu Davinescu on April 21, 2021, 08:06:31 PM
I'm not upset... Far from it! I think it's important to set out exactly what you guys see as the terms of this "compromise." There had been a lot of high talk about ending the arguments over the role of the monarchy, finding a compromise for "generations of Talossans," and so on. But it turns out that it really just means that you get what you want now, and you'll come back for more very soon. That's fine, I'm just glad that the cards are on the table.

You know what affects "generations of Talossans"? Landed Peerages, which... like the current Monarchical system... are lifetime, hereditary appointments. I do believe that the trappings of the Monarchy are important to the cultural of Talossa. That said, it is also important that those lifetime, hereditary titles be given with the consent of the Government... since the current Monarch proved upon the moment of His return that he clearly doesn't understand the importance of said titles within this country. The only thing about this discussion tied directly to the HC is the fact that a nation in which the Crown truly serves at the consent of the people... even in a seven year renewable term... lacks the power to screw up and grant lifetime titles to a non-deserving subject. Hereditary titles should go to lifelong, impactful servants of the country... of the people! Not just for successfully not dying while the boss was on vacation! So stop putting words in my mouth. You want clarification on something I said, you ask. I'm quite capable of speaking for myself

Quote from: Ian Plätschisch on April 21, 2021, 05:35:33 PM
If you think this is part of the Historic Compromise, you are mistaken.

"The line must be drawn here! This far, no further!"

No... I don't. Never did. Simply stated we should investigate behaving like a real nation that uses such systems.

Davinescu

Azul & Good Afternoon Friends,
I wanted to take a moment, considering the sudden of the Crown, to open a discussion that I feel His Majesty should be involved in... not just a Regent. I believe the recent actions of the King in the awarding a title of Peerage for the first time in nearly a decade for essentially babysitting the Kingdom for six months and additionally sidestepping the Government's recommendation for an Order of Knighthood, that the time has come for a complete overhaul of the system of Peerages and Knighthoods of the Kingdom.

Does that mean that I think they should go away... no, not even close. But I do believe that as we move forward with the Historic Compromise, we must pause and re-evaluate how our nation's highest Honours are divvied up. Peerages aren't something to be handed out for simple tasks... like warming a seat while the King is away.... again. Peerages are, by definition, not just the award of title but of land. While I applaud the efforts of the former Regent, awarding him a land grant is incredibly inappropriate for the service rendered. At best, adding the Grade of Knight Commander to the Order of the Nation (L'Urderi per la Naziun) for Sir Alexandreu... not a Peerage title.

I propose that, moving forward, Peerages and Knighthoods may originate from either the Crown or the Government... but, specifically in the case of Peerages, must be approved by both. Knighthoods, depending on Grade, may too originate from either... with the Government generally taking lead on approvals of Member, Officer, Commander/Knight and the Crown on Knight Commander & Knight Grand Cross.

Generally, I feel if we are going to have Peerages & Knightly Orders... we should do so in the manner that literally all other recognized nations do theirs.

Respectfully,
Gen. Txoteu Davinescu, O.SPM