Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on Yesterday at 11:47:03 PMThis is an ironic conversation, because Zappa's book contains a chapter in which he discusses a theory that beer (as opposed to other forms of alcohol) somehow causes "violent male bonding". In his own idiom: "whiskey might make you want to kill your girlfriend, but beer makes you want to do it with your buddies watching".

I love a good scotch but it's never made me want to kill anything :-)

-Txec R

Quote from: Iason Taiwos on Yesterday at 10:18:42 PM

Quote from: xpb on Yesterday at 09:23:14 PMFrank Zappa

"Every major industrialized nation has A BEER (you can't be a Real Country unless you have A BEER and an airline—it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need A BEER."



1999 (1989 copyright), The Real Frank Zappa Book, by Frank Zappa with Peter Occhiogrosso, Section: Introduction, Quote Page 9, A Touchstone Book: Simon & Schuster, New York. (Verified on paper in 1999 reprint edition; originally published in 1989 by Poseidon Press, New York) ↩�

Some company decades ago made some beer with Zappa album covers as the labels. I still have the bottle with the Lumpy Gravy album cover on it. Don't recall if the beer was any good. (I'm a huge Zappa fan.)
I was gifted a beer brewing kit by a family member for Christmas one time. It was too complicated for me, so I turned it into a wine making kit. Wine is way easier to make. The wine that I eventually made was actually pretty tasty, but the alcohol content was over the top. After one night of sampling my home made wine, my wife dumped the rest down the toilet, and threatened to leave me if I ever made wine again. I don't remember much about that night. But I imagine I was having a good time.

That's so funny Sir Iason.

-Txec R

This is an ironic conversation, because Zappa's book contains a chapter in which he discusses a theory that beer (as opposed to other forms of alcohol) somehow causes "violent male bonding". In his own idiom: "whiskey might make you want to kill your girlfriend, but beer makes you want to do it with your buddies watching".

Quote from: xpb on Yesterday at 09:23:14 PMFrank Zappa

"Every major industrialized nation has A BEER (you can't be a Real Country unless you have A BEER and an airline—it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need A BEER."



1999 (1989 copyright), The Real Frank Zappa Book, by Frank Zappa with Peter Occhiogrosso, Section: Introduction, Quote Page 9, A Touchstone Book: Simon & Schuster, New York. (Verified on paper in 1999 reprint edition; originally published in 1989 by Poseidon Press, New York) ↩�

Some company decades ago made some beer with Zappa album covers as the labels. I still have the bottle with the Lumpy Gravy album cover on it. Don't recall if the beer was any good. (I'm a huge Zappa fan.)
I was gifted a beer brewing kit by a family member for Christmas one time. It was too complicated for me, so I turned it into a wine making kit. Wine is way easier to make. The wine that I eventually made was actually pretty tasty, but the alcohol content was over the top. After one night of sampling my home made wine, my wife dumped the rest down the toilet, and threatened to leave me if I ever made wine again. I don't remember much about that night. But I imagine I was having a good time.

Frank Zappa

"Every major industrialized nation has A BEER (you can't be a Real Country unless you have A BEER and an airline—it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need A BEER."



1999 (1989 copyright), The Real Frank Zappa Book, by Frank Zappa with Peter Occhiogrosso, Section: Introduction, Quote Page 9, A Touchstone Book: Simon & Schuster, New York. (Verified on paper in 1999 reprint edition; originally published in 1989 by Poseidon Press, New York) ↩�

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on July 23, 2026, 11:32:03 AM

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on October 14, 2025, 01:57:49 PMVolume 4 of the Talossan Book of Cuisine is now available!
I will be issuing the call for submissions to Volume 5 later this year. I hope we can get some interesting recipes for this next edition.

As mentioned earlier this year, I am planning to soon open submissions to Volume 5 of the Talossan Book of Cuisine.

@Mximo Malt You submitted an oatmeal recipe some time ago so I wanted to re-confirm your wish to include it.

Also, our friendly visitor @varoneglan enquired on submitting to the Book of Cuisine. You are still welcome to do so!

Yes, please do.

GROUP 7
3. Talking Heads - Psycho Killer
2. Rush - Subdivisions
1. The Who - Baba O'Riley

GROUP 8
3. Het Goede Doel - België (Is er leven op Pluto ...)
2. Fool's Garden - Lemon Tree
1. Gloria Gaynor - I Will Survive

Stage 19   »   Gap  ›  Alpe d'Huez

TCAT still very much undecided after first of two Alpe d'Huez stages with three/four teams fighting for the win tomorrow and possibly sunday.

Even though the climb to the Alpe d'Huez (which was filled to the brim with a massive crowd of spectactors) seemed destined to be yet another Pogacar victory we did get a fairly large break again. This included Pedersen (REX/MMM/EVC), who managed to score intsprint points for the second day in a row and now has basically secured the points classification after all. The group which remains in the attack at the foot of the Alpe d'Huez, which included among others Carapaz (CHX/BDC) (again), Johannessen (GHS/VFL), Arensman (CJO) and Yates (MMM) had about a 3,5 minute headstart on the group of favourites, which for a bit almost looked like it might be enough, even when Pogacar accelerated and left the other GC riders behind again. But in the end Pogacar again proved to be nearly unbeatable uphill and overtook the last two remaining from the break, including Carapaz, who finished third. Johannessen managed to get 5th place this time.

In the group of favourites Evenepoel (CFA/CJO/REX/VFL) was best of the rest and got 6th, followed by Del Toro, Skjelmose (MMM), who had a strong day and is looking like he might climb further in GC and Seixas (CFA). Along the way Carapaz scored enough points to get the polkadot jersey for the KOM classification. He will need to attack again tomorrow to have any chance of defending it against Pogacar. Ayuso (REX/EVC) has had a bad third week and dropped to 7th in GC

The result is the second stagewin in a row for Cyclohexane, bringing them very much back in the game. The Menceis however had a good day as well, and if we look at how many points the teams would score if the classifications remain the same:

Expected end-of-tour points for the top 4 teams:
MMM 2050
CHX 1760
REX 1680
GHS 1525

then the Menceis may well be the favourites to win this edition. However, unlike Italy this year, this edition is very very close. A third good day for Cyclohexane (Carapaz will almost certainly be in the attack again tomorrow considering the fight for the KOM jersey) could make the difference. Els Talossaes Rexhital are also still very much in the race to hang on to their current lead if Evenepoel, Pidcock and Ayuso do well tomorrow, and the final day could help them as well if Van der Poel wins in Paris as some expect him to. Of course the Menceis will be looking at Pedersen instead. GHST are a bit further behind, and while they could in theory still win (which would be a third victory in a row) its gonna require a lot of things to go very well both tomorrow and sunday.

Meanwhile BDC keeps bleeding points without Uijtdebroeks and Vingegaard and have now taken over the red lantern. There's also more bad news for them (and GHST) as Affini dropped out.

Standings after stage 19:

Pos	±		Team	Pts Ove	Pts Today
1st	(=)		Els Talossaes Rexhital (REX)	8668	+384
2nd	(=)		Maritiimi-Maxhestic Mençeis (MMM)	8598	+681
3rd	(=)		Cyclohexane (CHX)	8534	+728
4th	(=)		Gordon Hiatus Support Team (GHS)	8263	+606
5th	(=)		Velociposse Florencia (VFL)	7631	+440
6th	(=)		Esqipă Velocostă (EVC)	6997	+236
7th	(=)		Cézembre Fieschā (CFA)	6726	+562
8th	(+1)		Naziun Cjovani (CJO)	6309	+720
9th	(-1)		Cézembre Caçeirs dals Mailintzarăs (BDC)	6288	+521

Tomorrow we get Alpe d'Huez again, but the approach will be different so most of the climbing happens way before that. However this time theyve also thrown in the formidable Col du Galibier in for good measure along with two more hors category climbs (!!). It's a monstrous stage with 5624 vertical meters that should provide enough opportunities for GC riders who are feeling strong to attempt to leave behind their competitors (except for Pogacar who is almost certainly going to win the GC tomorrow if nothing crazy happens)

Will I regret not nabbing Evenepoel and going top-two again?

Every province already has a constitution, so any potential to replace it with a military governor or to try to bring in a new one from the outside with a local midterm referenda should be eliminated, in my opinion at this time.  I'd certainly be open to alternative language with some other form of the threshold requirement, but it'd be tricky to do.