
Quote from: xpb on July 01, 2026, 01:19:00 PMQuote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on June 30, 2026, 10:31:45 PMQuote from: xpb on March 14, 2026, 10:23:19 PMnote: data collected by Breneir duing impulse #1 for Asgardia not including SWOT analysis has been submitted to their foreign ministry for review of accuracy - this is an information gathering step only, not establishing any specific relationship
Hey @xpb
In starting to finally get to work on the second report for the Dominion of Vancouver Island I noticed this note concerning the Asgardia report. Have you heard anything back from Asgardian Foreign Ministry?
Asgardia did not reply to my March 2 inquiry: Establishing Asgardia information for Talossan Factbook 2026. I most recently received from them their general newsletter on June 18th (their unity day) indicating that their upcoming 10-year anniversary 12 October 2026.
meanwhile there's an effort by Microcon/Slowjamistan to create a more terse directory that wouldn't have the details of the fact book but could be a starting point to collect information from.
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on Today at 07:49:24 PMI missed two things:Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on Today at 07:42:08 PMI think there's no barrier to these things being expected to come into effect immediately upon ratification:
- Seat limit change
I think that these requirements require a process that cannot be expected to have occurred (ranked lists) or which have a timer running, and so they will happen with the 64th Cosa:
- Baseline 20 seats
- Ordered list
- Redistribution via ordered list
- Consent to be on a list required
The seat limit change is related to the abolition of off-listers, so as long as off-listers are abolished for the 63rd Cosă onwards, I believe this timeline should be fine.
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on Today at 07:42:08 PMI think there's no barrier to these things being expected to come into effect immediately upon ratification:The seat limit change is related to the abolition of off-listers, so as long as off-listers are abolished for the 63rd Cosă onwards, I believe this timeline should be fine.
- Seat limit change
I think that these requirements require a process that cannot be expected to have occurred (ranked lists) or which have a timer running, and so they will happen with the 64th Cosa:
- Baseline 20 seats
- Ordered list
- Redistribution via ordered list
- Consent to be on a list required
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on Today at 05:35:44 PMWhen and where did the Ziu agree that this particular baseline change to Org.IV.2.1 would only enter into effect during or after February?
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on Today at 05:35:44 PMThat's an interesting point, actually. Miestră believes that ironclad lists cannot come into effect immediately because electoral lists under the current pre-referendum system are not the same form as the ironclad post-referendum system, i.e. they're not numerically ordered. In her view, the Cosă constitutes under the old rules as soon as the election results are published, but before any amendments enter into effect.
If this isn't a reason for all of us to come to an agreement as to when and how the amendment enters into effect and what ramifications it would have, I don't know what is.
Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on Today at 05:27:14 PMThe Ziu affirmed a change, yes. But it also affirmed the requirement that a change to the size of the Ziu would happen after the clock ran.
QuoteI don't think there's anything to hold up anything like the ironclad Cosa lists, which will come into effect immediately after the referendum is passed (so everyone should prepare for that now!)That's an interesting point, actually. Miestră believes that ironclad lists cannot come into effect immediately because electoral lists under the current pre-referendum system are not the same form as the ironclad post-referendum system, i.e. they're not numerically ordered. In her view, the Cosă constitutes under the old rules as soon as the election results are published, but before any amendments enter into effect.
Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on Today at 05:26:55 PMBut even if the baseline change would enter into effect immediately rather than next year, would that mean the 63rd Cosă would have 20 seats? And what about the other changes to the Cosă's composition such as seat limits and iron-clad party lists, would they come into effect with the 63rd Cosă or the 64th? We've actually been debating this on the URL Discord and it seems the only thing we could agree on is that this stuff is confusing lol. I believe there is a lot of potential for confusion and grave misunderstandings here that we would be better avoiding at all costs, so it'd be practical to collectively agree on some sort of "timeline of events" beforehand.