Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on Today at 06:26:36 PMHe can delegate someone to moderate in his place.

Thanks. Moinul, I hope this is what you had planned. Since I appear to be staying in the Ziu I'll post my vote soon. Also, it looks like I'll be the Leader of the Opposition (third time,quite cool) starting next month barring any unexpected Non votes.

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on Today at 05:38:43 PMMy imminent departure from the Ziu will open up my mental energies, hopefully, for renewed attention to Talossa's only TV channel, Fora Talossa. Abbavilla Digest will be back. What I am really excited about, though, is the possibility of one TBoC contributor taping a segment for the Tastes of Talossa series...that would be fantastic.

That didn't last long. I just got back from a nice walk and was delighted at the prospect of Talossa moving forward. I still plan to get something going for FT but will be throwing things at Ziu buzzsaw too.

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Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on Today at 05:01:30 PMFolks, if you could please put parts that concern the end of the boycott into a joint statement?

No. As AD said, this is not a negotiation.

So then we won't be moving forward. I appreciate you laying out the terms. My door is open should you all decide to post the joint statement as an exercise in trust-building.

Quote from: Breneir Tzaracomprada on Today at 05:01:30 PMFolks, if you could please put parts that concern the end of the boycott into a joint statement?

No. As AD said, this is not a negotiation.

He can delegate someone to moderate in his place.

My imminent departure from the Ziu will open up my mental energies, hopefully, for renewed attention to Talossa's only TV channel, Fora Talossa. Abbavilla Digest will be back. What I am really excited about, though, is the possibility of one TBoC contributor taping a segment for the Tastes of Talossa series...that would be fantastic.

I am waiting for a response from someone concerning Moinul's inability to moderate informal sessions before voting. Have we determined who will moderate the audio/visual aspects of informal sessions as Moinul can't?

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on Today at 03:52:45 PMLet's discuss what "the end of the boycott" means.

Firstly, there is no boycott on Crement. It is just that you don't even try to hide that you are cooperating closely politically, and that your apparent "split" from the Greens was a sham in the hope that you could use Crement to get around the boycott. If you abide by the terms AD is proposing, there will no longer be a reason for us to treat Crement differently from the other non-government parties.

Secondly, let us talk about what "boycott" means in this context. It means a refusal from the Progs and from the URL to deal with you politically unless you apologized to Lüc in a way in which he accepted. The fact that Lüc has not accepted this apology and that there has been no reconciliation is why this extra step is needed.

I agree with AD's suggestion of a couple of concrete ways that you can prove that you really meant the apology for sexual harassment, and fine, if you do that, you show willingness to engage, and I will no longer object to the Government dealing with you politically, giving you jobs to do etc.

However, this doesn't change all the other ways you have acted. Your hardball approach to politics drove both @Bråneu and @Munditenens out; and your reaction to being boycotted has been to pretend it's not happening, to "keep bopping along" in AD's terms, to recruit your husband to Talossa so you'll have someone to tell you you've done nothing wrong. You clearly think there is nothing wrong with how you behave in Talossa, and you are going to keep doing it. Well, there is something simple here to end the formal boycott, but changing the opinion of most Talossans who're not your husband that you're a vesneir, a verpă, and a bragartac'h, and to feel like co-operating with you, will be much harder. Look, don't be discouraged - if AD and I can build a working relationship, anything is possible.

Thirdly, the "boycott" refers to a refusal of political engagement on a policy level. This is distinct from voting on your Senses of the Ziu, which I consider to be glurge. Even if you were to be personally rehabilitated, I don't think I will ever vote Per on them, no matter how much I agree with them "on paper", because I don't think that's what the Ziu is for. I will argue for this position within my party too. There is a difference between a "boycott" and "not supporting something you support because we think it's foolish".

Questions? Comments?

Folks, if you could please put parts that concern the end of the boycott into a joint statement? I have now, and will continue, to charitably not react to any insinuations about why Crement immigrated to Talossa (but thank and love him for his positive influence here), about Braneu and Dien's decisions to avoid Talossa (which are their decisions for which they are responsible not me), and about the utility of continued name-calling Miestra. :) I also thank you for acknowledging the non-response to my second apology...

You can have your cheap shots so long as Talossa gets to move on. Please lets post the joint statement without inflammatory language and unsigned. I will complete the steps you request, please then sign it, after confirmation.