I am waiting for a response from someone concerning Moinul's inability to moderate informal sessions before voting. Have we determined who will moderate the audio/visual aspects of informal sessions as Moinul can't?

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on October 03, 2026, 03:52:45 PMLet's discuss what "the end of the boycott" means.

Firstly, there is no boycott on Crement. It is just that you don't even try to hide that you are cooperating closely politically, and that your apparent "split" from the Greens was a sham in the hope that you could use Crement to get around the boycott. If you abide by the terms AD is proposing, there will no longer be a reason for us to treat Crement differently from the other non-government parties.

Secondly, let us talk about what "boycott" means in this context. It means a refusal from the Progs and from the URL to deal with you politically unless you apologized to Lüc in a way in which he accepted. The fact that Lüc has not accepted this apology and that there has been no reconciliation is why this extra step is needed.

I agree with AD's suggestion of a couple of concrete ways that you can prove that you really meant the apology for sexual harassment, and fine, if you do that, you show willingness to engage, and I will no longer object to the Government dealing with you politically, giving you jobs to do etc.

However, this doesn't change all the other ways you have acted. Your hardball approach to politics drove both @Bråneu and @Munditenens out; and your reaction to being boycotted has been to pretend it's not happening, to "keep bopping along" in AD's terms, to recruit your husband to Talossa so you'll have someone to tell you you've done nothing wrong. You clearly think there is nothing wrong with how you behave in Talossa, and you are going to keep doing it. Well, there is something simple here to end the formal boycott, but changing the opinion of most Talossans who're not your husband that you're a vesneir, a verpă, and a bragartac'h, and to feel like co-operating with you, will be much harder. Look, don't be discouraged - if AD and I can build a working relationship, anything is possible.

Thirdly, the "boycott" refers to a refusal of political engagement on a policy level. This is distinct from voting on your Senses of the Ziu, which I consider to be glurge. Even if you were to be personally rehabilitated, I don't think I will ever vote Per on them, no matter how much I agree with them "on paper", because I don't think that's what the Ziu is for. I will argue for this position within my party too. There is a difference between a "boycott" and "not supporting something you support because we think it's foolish".

Questions? Comments?

Folks, if you could please put parts that concern the end of the boycott into a joint statement? I have now, and will continue, to charitably not react to any insinuations about why Crement immigrated to Talossa (but thank and love him for his positive influence here), about Braneu and Dien's decisions to avoid Talossa (which are their decisions for which they are responsible not me), and about the utility of continued name-calling Miestra. :) I also thank you for acknowledging the non-response to my second apology...

You can have your cheap shots so long as Talossa gets to move on. Please lets post the joint statement without inflammatory language and unsigned. I will complete the steps you request, please then sign it, after confirmation.

By my count that's 19+9+22=50 seats' worth of nominations for S:r Moin, so 51 more needed.

Let's discuss what "the end of the boycott" means.

Firstly, there is no boycott on Crement. It is just that you don't even try to hide that you are cooperating closely politically, and that your apparent "split" from the Greens was a sham in the hope that you could use Crement to get around the boycott. If you abide by the terms AD is proposing, there will no longer be a reason for us to treat Crement differently from the other non-government parties.

Secondly, let us talk about what "boycott" means in this context. It means a refusal from the Progs and from the URL to deal with you politically unless you apologized to Lüc in a way in which he accepted. The fact that Lüc has not accepted this apology and that there has been no reconciliation is why this extra step is needed.

I agree with AD's suggestion of a couple of concrete ways that you can prove that you really meant the apology for sexual harassment, and fine, if you do that, you show willingness to engage, and I will no longer object to the Government dealing with you politically, giving you jobs to do etc.

However, this doesn't change all the other ways you have acted. Your hardball approach to politics drove both @Bråneu and @Munditenens out; and your reaction to being boycotted has been to pretend it's not happening, to "keep bopping along" in AD's terms, to recruit your husband to Talossa so you'll have someone to tell you you've done nothing wrong. You clearly think there is nothing wrong with how you behave in Talossa, and you are going to keep doing it. Well, there is something simple here to end the formal boycott, but changing the opinion of most Talossans who're not your husband that you're a vesneir, a verpă, and a bragartac'h, and to feel like co-operating with you, will be much harder. Look, don't be discouraged - if AD and I can build a working relationship, anything is possible.

Thirdly, the "boycott" refers to a refusal of political engagement on a policy level. This is distinct from voting on your Senses of the Ziu, which I consider to be glurge. Even if you were to be personally rehabilitated, I don't think I will ever vote Per on them, no matter how much I agree with them "on paper", because I don't think that's what the Ziu is for. I will argue for this position within my party too. There is a difference between a "boycott" and "not supporting something you support because we think it's foolish".

Questions? Comments?

Best thing I've seen on Witt in years...  I knew Litz had been away for some time, but had no idea of what she's been through recently.

The prayers and thoughts of all Talossans are with her.

GV

I don't think the CRL is up and running yet but posting notice now that I plan to move this to the CRL for consideration.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on October 03, 2026, 11:42:47 AMThis is not a two-way street. You hurt another person.

Trust is a two-way street and will need to be rebuilt.
I am simply asking you and Miestra to post the joint statement you plan to make unsigned announcing the end of the boycott. I am happy to take the course and resign from the Ziu. Neither of those things bother me but I am concerned that you will invent new reasons or start talking about Dien or Braneu.

This is not a two-way street. You hurt another person.

Whereas, it can be said that one objective in granting rights is to reduce suffering and enhance flourishing, so the use of sentience as a guiding characteristic may be more appropriate, and

Whereas, it was the trailblazing philosopher Jeremy Bentham who wrote in 1789, "The question is not, Can they reason? nor, Can they talk? but, Can they suffer?", and

Whereas, sentience is the characteristic of consciousness whereby an organism has a sufficient level of awareness to experience suffering, and

Whereas, sentience has been proven to be a characteristic not exclusive to homo sapiens sapiens, and

Whereas, it is therefore a fact that the restriction of the normative and legal discussion and codification of rights to humankind is an unacceptable case of anthropocentric speciesism.

Therefore, be it enacted that el Lexhatx F.5.1.8 which currently reads:

Quote10 December. Human Rights Day. A suggested method to celebrate Human Rights Day is reviewing Article XI of The Organic Law and/or the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

is deleted.

and the current el Lexhatx F.5.2.7 which reads:

QuoteDecember 12: Llimbaziua (Language Day).

is renumbered as F.5.1.9.

The following new article is reinserted as el Lexhatx F.5.1.8 to read as:

Quote10 December. Sentient Rights Day. A day to celebrate the dignity and honor the rights of all sentient beings.

Uréu q'estadra så,
Breneir Tzaracomprada (MC-BREN)