Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on Yesterday at 04:46:17 PMIf you somehow believe that my stance on Ben as a person makes me unqualified to be Ladintsch Naziunal, say it publicly.

He wanted me to, can you blame me? I think not.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on December 22, 2025, 09:57:09 PMTbf, the point of the Senäts in the minds of its defenders is precisely to be countermajoritarian. It is supposed to *not* represent the majority, because "stopping the majority doing things" is seen as a benefit in itself.

Reposting this for no reason in particular :D

I hope the URL will not try to block this legislation again - especially now that it's improved, has support from multiple parties, and since it's so acceptable it's mostly copied here.

Still, I would love to talk about the specifics here. We might just agree and amend the bill if we could discuss it.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on Yesterday at 02:02:25 PM. Presumably the URL is not again threatening to block the Public Process Act,

There seems to exist an inaccurate belief within the Progressive Alliance that the URL did not simply suffer an election defeat on the numbers, but that we suffered one morally, in that we are not entitled to use our blocking majority in the Senäts in the way that it seems good to us to do so.

Mic'haglh is promoting a compromise bill which would make the PPA's provisions acceptable to the URL. Now, I can foresee a situation where the PA rejects this, puts the PPA2 on the First Clark, and it fails in the Senäts. Then, Mic'haglh puts the IRCA on the Second Clark, and the PA shoot it down. So that's two Clarks lost and then the choices are some kind of compromise bill, or no reform this Cosă. Seems wise to do the compromise *now*.

Quote from: Mximo Malt on Yesterday at 04:48:44 PMYou are NOT fit to be Ladintsch Naziunal

I would like the Seneschal and the Minister of Culture, as the political authorities under which the Bureu del Glheþ and the Ladintsch Naziunal are established, to officially disapprove of this attack on the LN. Marcel is qualified to this post for being the most fluent Ladintsch and effective promoter of the language. Not because of his attitude to the man who invented it.

Quote from: Mximo Malt on Yesterday at 04:54:26 PM

Quote from: Marcel Eðo Pairescu Tafial, UrGP on Yesterday at 04:52:37 PM

Quote from: Mximo Malt on Yesterday at 04:48:44 PMAnd you know what? You are NOT fit to be Ladintsch Naziunal if you are not interested in the history of the language. Promoting its use is one thing, but the history of the language is one of the most important aspects of it. There, I said it.

I am interested in its history. That's why I have been, among other things, researching Archaic Talossan as it was first created by Ben in December 1980. What you're doing has nothing to do with its history, and how dare you make these sweeping statements when you don't know the first thing about it?

Instead of Ben, who only ever saw the language he created as a marketing ploy to get nerds to join his kingdom, I would love to see the return of the second person ever to speak Talossan, and the first person to truly love it: Sir Tomás Gariçeir.

Well, looks like we're both in a pickle now, eh?

I have no idea what you mean by "pickle". Sir Tomás has always been well respected for his services to the language.

Quote from: Miestră Schivă, UrN-GC on Yesterday at 04:56:10 PMI just want to circle back on this bit:

Quote from: Xheralt Del'Encradeir on December 26, 2025, 03:34:57 PMHis concern of course is to not be subjected to an overtly hostile environment, there being easily a half dozen Quator Astor citizens still at least semi-active here who despise him viscerally; his impression from his last attempt at reconciliation was that those people were still "in charge" and absolutely blacklisting him. 

"Quator Astor" is a misspelling of "Qator Itrìns", Talossan for "Four Stars", i.e. the flag of the Talossan Republic. When Ben last tried to come back, the Seneschal was in fact a former Talossan Republican, i.e. me. I was not convinced he had changed in any way that would mean I could be safe in a political community with him, and I'm still not.

So am I to take from this that Ben wants to come back now because his former political enemies were out of power and he thinks they're no longer a threat to his plans for Talossa? That's a hint on how to take seriously the question of whether there would be any "forgiveness" or "bygones being bygones".

And how, Madame Schivă, do you suppose he knows that?

I just want to circle back on this bit:

Quote from: Xheralt Del'Encradeir on December 26, 2025, 03:34:57 PMHis concern of course is to not be subjected to an overtly hostile environment, there being easily a half dozen Quator Astor citizens still at least semi-active here who despise him viscerally; his impression from his last attempt at reconciliation was that those people were still "in charge" and absolutely blacklisting him. 

"Quator Astor" is a misspelling of "Qator Itrìns", Talossan for "Four Stars", i.e. the flag of the Talossan Republic. When Ben last tried to come back, the Seneschal was in fact a former Talossan Republican, i.e. me. I was not convinced he had changed in any way that would mean I could be safe in a political community with him, and I'm still not.

So am I to take from this that Ben wants to come back now because his former political enemies were out of power and he thinks they're no longer a threat to his plans for Talossa? That's a hint on how to take seriously the question of whether there would be any "forgiveness" or "bygones being bygones".

Quote from: Françal I. Lux on Yesterday at 04:54:26 PMWhatever perceived benefits this may theoretically bring to Talossa will undoubtedly be overshadowed by an outpouring of decades of grievances that will not do any of us here any favors.

I'm more interested in making sure the government functions well, than stoking up an emotional debate on whether the disgraced ex-king is well-behaved enough now to remigrate.

I'm interested in that too, but not only the government, but the entire Kingdom!

Whatever perceived benefits this may theoretically bring to Talossa will undoubtedly be overshadowed by an outpouring of decades of grievances that will not do any of us here any favors.

I'm more interested in making sure the government functions well, than stoking up an emotional debate on whether the disgraced ex-king is well-behaved enough now to remigrate.