No, that does make sense!  I'm not arguing against the precedent or practice, since I think it's basically fine and it's neat that the Senate is always around.  I just got confused.

Advisory opinions should be minimized as much as possible.  In many countries, they are used as a method of ad hoc lawmaking.  I'd prefer advisory opinions be removed completely, and instead use a "case or controversy" standard.

Whereas we usually look for the rules about how to get the Ziu going after elections right after an election, and

Whereas I think it's just bad labeling that's ultimately my fault, and sorry about that, and let's fix it,

THEREFORE Title H of el Lexhatx shall be relabeled as Title H: Operations of the Ziu.

Uréu q'estadra så
Alexandreu Davinescu, Senator for Maritiimi-Maxhestic

Yeah, I agree they should be rewritten to better reflect the intent and the actual precedent, which is as follows:

• For the 61st Cosă, there was no sitting Mençei, and the Dean (GV) conducted the election: https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=4025.0
• For the 60th Cosă, there was a sitting Mençei (Sir Ian), who conducted the election: https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=3411.0
• For the 57th, 58th and 59th Cosă, there was a sitting Mençei (ESB), who conducted the election: https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=1364.0 and https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=2134.0 and https://wittenberg.talossa.com/index.php?topic=2780.0 respectively

I realise this is often extremely philosophical, but I believe we should recognise the Senate is a continuing body, unlike the Cosă, and therefore, that the Mençei's term doesn't end with the dissolution of the Cosă or with a new Senate assembling.

-- Lüc - hopefully not invading for much longer still

Yeah, that really is not at all how the rules read:

Quote from: Rule 21. At the beginning of each new term, and whenever the position is vacant, the Senate shall choose a Lord President (Mençei) from among its members to perform the duties of the Chair.
2. Pending the election of a Mençei, the Dean of the Senate shall perform the duties of the Chair as Acting Mençei. Should the Dean of the Senate be absent or unwilling, seniority will be followed to select a replacement.
3. The Acting Mençei shall allow for nominations to be lodged for a period of at least a week from the beginning of a term. Should a Senator receive nominations from a majority of Senators, the nomination period shall end and the Senator be considered duly elected; otherwise, a ballot shall be held using Instant Runoff Voting. Seniority shall resolve any ties that may occur during any stage of elimination.

I'm absolutely fine with the senator from Cézembre doing the honours, but it really does read like the Dean is the one who performs the duties of the Chair to run the election.

We should clarify that a bit.  Maybe:

Quote from: Rule 21. A Lord President (Mençei) will perform the duties of the Chair.
2.  At the beginning of each new term, and whenever the position is vacant, the Senate shall choose a Mençei from among its members.
3. When the position is vacant, pending the election of a Mençei, the Dean of the Senate shall perform the duties of the Chair as Acting Mençei. Should the Dean of the Senate be absent or unwilling, seniority will be followed to select a replacement.
4. The Chair shall allow for nominations to be lodged for a period of at least a week from the beginning of a term. Should a Senator receive nominations from a majority of Senators, the nomination period shall end and the Senator be considered duly elected; otherwise, a ballot shall be held using Instant Runoff Voting. Seniority shall resolve any ties that may occur during any stage of elimination.

Quote from: Baron Alexandreu Davinescu on Yesterday at 06:35:12 AMMy understanding is that @GV , as the dean of the Senate, will be running the election for Mençei.  Is that correct?

I admit the rule isn't super clear, but the chair is not vacant, as the Senator for Cézembre is continuing in office - so there's no need for the Dean to perform the duties of the Chair in the absence of a Mençei, and Þerxh can run the election himself.

My understanding is that @GV , as the dean of the Senate, will be running the election for Mençei.  Is that correct?

By the way, GV, you have served since February 2017 -- I wonder if your tenure of nearly nine years in office might be some kind of Talossan record?

Just bumping this to see if there are any corrections or improvements we can make.

-SVA

Quote from: Andrïeu Cabischabuerg on November 15, 2025, 08:59:57 PMI am a vexillologist, and I would like to join the Royal Academy of Vexillology.

Is this still something that interests you, S:reu Cabischabuerg?

-SVA

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